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by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:58 pm
Galla- wrote:JuNii wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tmh9B8LVxM
please point out where Self-Defense can be argued.
gg reading comprehension
This post would be relevant if I'd say "His actions were in self defence, which you say does not exist", however i did not. i merely pointed out natapoc's faulty logic implies that the act of self-defence in general does not exist
by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Natapoc wrote:Galla- wrote:
gg reading comprehension
This post would be relevant if I'd say "His actions were in self defence, which you say does not exist", however i did not. i merely pointed out natapoc's faulty logic implies that the act of self-defence in general does not exist
Speaking of reading comprehension... My logic does not say that at all. You are reading into what I said.
Then people on NSG will spend hours trying to defend the cop who murdered you (OH SORRY I mean manslaughtered you)
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by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:07 pm
Galla- wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Speaking of reading comprehension... My logic does not say that at all. You are reading into what I said.Then people on NSG will spend hours trying to defend the cop who murdered you (OH SORRY I mean manslaughtered you)
You're saying that intentions shouldn't be taken into account, and even manslaughter should be considered first degree, premeditated murder. That isn't reading into it, that is what you said.
by Rokartian States » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:08 pm
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by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:08 pm
Fashiontopia wrote:Look don't come here talking bad about Americans, that will get you cussed out faster than relativity.
Besides: Most posters in this thread are Americans, and others who are non-Americans have no problems co-existing so shut that trap...
by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:12 pm
Galla- wrote:Natapoc wrote:
It's not what I said at all.
Then what is it, besides saying manslaughter = murder?
Is manslaughter only murder if the victim is a minority "race", or killed by a "white" man?
The look of abject shock and horror on the officer's face (ffs i cba to spell that name) after shooting him with a pistol, and consistently claiming that he thought said pistol was a stun gun does not say that he had left the station that day, intending to shoot a homeless man in cold blood because of some sadistic pleasure.
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by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:19 pm
Natapoc wrote:Galla- wrote:
Then what is it, besides saying manslaughter = murder?
Is manslaughter only murder if the victim is a minority "race", or killed by a "white" man?
The look of abject shock and horror on the officer's face (ffs i cba to spell that name) after shooting him with a pistol, and consistently claiming that he thought said pistol was a stun gun does not say that he had left the station that day, intending to shoot a homeless man in cold blood because of some sadistic pleasure.
Can you show me this image of the officer that looks shocked and horrified after he shot the guy?
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by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:22 pm
Galla- wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Can you show me this image of the officer that looks shocked and horrified after he shot the guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFNDK8PQ ... re=related
near the end you can see him walking with his hand over his mouth May be a slight exaggeration, but he certainly looks quite shocked.
Video quality is such shit, though, the officers all look the same.
by Wiztopia » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:24 pm
Euronion wrote:Oscar Grant was a citizen on christmas eve when he was stopped by a BART cop, The BART cop told Oscar Grant to sit down on the floor for suspected (I think it was drug realted) when the cop turned his back to Oscar to talk to another cop, Oscar had gotton up and was sprinting towards the cop, the BART cop panicked and menat to take out his teaser, when really he took out his gun, he shot Oscar Grant and ended up killing him. Well anyway after serving a 1 and a half year in jail for his actions The BART cop was released today and naturally there is a 'peaceful' protest. While I am not saying that it is right for the BART cop to shoot someone 1) he was panicking because some guy he suspected of being on drugs was sprinting towards him, how was he supposed to know that he was really sprinting towards the exit behind him 2)he meant to grab his teaser which he had just borrowed from a fellow BART cop because the city did not give enough teasers to the cops, so it was around 3 cops sharing a teaser. Another thing, why would Grant run if he was not guilty. When his sentence of 1 year was carried out there was supposed to be a 'peaceful' prtoest that night, it turned into a full scale riot and the riot police were called in. The most damning thing of all when asked by news groups what she thought of the sentence Oscar's mother said "You just watch it going to be going down tonight, you just wait and see" and walah, riot. The BART cop was released today after a year and a half in incarceration, and there was a protest today, in which protesters are demanding the disarment of cops and saying that the shooting was a violation of Civil Rights, I think that this is taking it too far, taking the evidence it is understandable why he shoot the man no matter how unjust, now he is having people calling him a racist, wanting a civil rights charge against him, I think cops have a hard enough as it is, what do you think NSGers? should civil rights be charged? should he be incarerated longer? do you think that a racist charge is justified just because the cop was white and Oscar was black?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/12/oscar-grant-supporters-gather-at-oakland-fruitvale-bart-station-to-protest-mehserle-release/
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by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:27 pm
Natapoc wrote:Galla- wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFNDK8PQ ... re=related
near the end you can see him walking with his hand over his mouth May be a slight exaggeration, but he certainly looks quite shocked.
Video quality is such shit, though, the officers all look the same.
You are right, it is quite an exaggeration. I really don't see it. Sorry. Any non cop eye witnesses back up your side of the story that you can link to?
Wiztopia wrote:Euronion wrote:Oscar Grant was a citizen on christmas eve when he was stopped by a BART cop, The BART cop told Oscar Grant to sit down on the floor for suspected (I think it was drug realted) when the cop turned his back to Oscar to talk to another cop, Oscar had gotton up and was sprinting towards the cop, the BART cop panicked and menat to take out his teaser, when really he took out his gun, he shot Oscar Grant and ended up killing him. Well anyway after serving a 1 and a half year in jail for his actions The BART cop was released today and naturally there is a 'peaceful' protest. While I am not saying that it is right for the BART cop to shoot someone 1) he was panicking because some guy he suspected of being on drugs was sprinting towards him, how was he supposed to know that he was really sprinting towards the exit behind him 2)he meant to grab his teaser which he had just borrowed from a fellow BART cop because the city did not give enough teasers to the cops, so it was around 3 cops sharing a teaser. Another thing, why would Grant run if he was not guilty. When his sentence of 1 year was carried out there was supposed to be a 'peaceful' prtoest that night, it turned into a full scale riot and the riot police were called in. The most damning thing of all when asked by news groups what she thought of the sentence Oscar's mother said "You just watch it going to be going down tonight, you just wait and see" and walah, riot. The BART cop was released today after a year and a half in incarceration, and there was a protest today, in which protesters are demanding the disarment of cops and saying that the shooting was a violation of Civil Rights, I think that this is taking it too far, taking the evidence it is understandable why he shoot the man no matter how unjust, now he is having people calling him a racist, wanting a civil rights charge against him, I think cops have a hard enough as it is, what do you think NSGers? should civil rights be charged? should he be incarerated longer? do you think that a racist charge is justified just because the cop was white and Oscar was black?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/12/oscar-grant-supporters-gather-at-oakland-fruitvale-bart-station-to-protest-mehserle-release/
http://kron4.net/
Nice job making up bullshit. He was on the ground when he pulled out his fucking "taser" for no reason at all but to commit murder.
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Besides: Most posters in this thread are Americans, and others who are non-Americans have no problems co-existing so shut that trap...
by Rokartian States » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:28 pm
Natapoc wrote:Galla- wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFNDK8PQ ... re=related
near the end you can see him walking with his hand over his mouth May be a slight exaggeration, but he certainly looks quite shocked.
Video quality is such shit, though, the officers all look the same.
You are right, it is quite an exaggeration. I really don't see it. Sorry. Any non cop eye witnesses back up your side of the story that you can link to?
Southern United Africa wrote:Say "pray" over and over in quick succession. I dare you.
Jobbla wrote:hey dude my bitch is a mod on this site shes gonna punish you for squealing on me!
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by JuNii » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:37 pm
Galla- wrote:JuNii wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tmh9B8LVxM
please point out where Self-Defense can be argued.
gg reading comprehension
This post would be relevant if I'd say "His actions were in self defence, which you say does not exist", however i did not. i merely pointed out natapoc's faulty logic implies that the act of self-defence in general does not exist
by Ryadn » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:39 pm
Euronion wrote:Wilgrove wrote:Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.
it was an accident, and the man who was shot was sprinting towards the cop, when the cop had reasons to believe he was under the influence of drugs, what would you have done?
by Ryadn » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:41 pm
by Wiztopia » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:45 pm
Galla- wrote:Grant was resisting arrest. That is enough to warrant a taser. The shock on Mehsenrles' face and his intentions to tase Mr. Grant are enough to warrant a manslaughter charge.
Do you want him shot or hung on live television, or something?
by Ryadn » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:47 pm
by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:53 pm
Wiztopia wrote:Galla- wrote:Grant was resisting arrest. That is enough to warrant a taser. The shock on Mehsenrles' face and his intentions to tase Mr. Grant are enough to warrant a manslaughter charge.
Do you want him shot or hung on live television, or something?
No he was on the ground and Mehserle pulled out his "taser" for no reason. The shock was bullshit to throw them off because of what he knew he was doing. It was plain murder and every single one of those jury members who convicted him for manslaughter deserve to die along with Mehserle.
by Vernii » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:59 pm
by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:03 pm
by Rokartian States » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:06 pm
Southern United Africa wrote:Say "pray" over and over in quick succession. I dare you.
Jobbla wrote:hey dude my bitch is a mod on this site shes gonna punish you for squealing on me!
Norstal wrote:That is egotistical on so many level. Its like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, except theres one 1 degree and its your ego.
Sozut wrote:IT IS DEFINITELY BIRDS!
Sibirsky wrote:The truth is, you ideology has failed, will continue to fail, and is made of fail.
Embrihated Koalas wrote:SO THEIR BALLS ARE INERT
Cnetral america wrote:you have int got the flu soooo long it cagt you up
:geek:
by Gravlen » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:06 pm
Natapoc wrote: After all, it's easy to convince jury members of things by selective use of evidence.
Natapoc wrote:The person who was murdered
Natapoc wrote:of course had no means of defending himself from the allegations Mehserle's legal team was making.
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