BART cop who shot man is released after 1 year sentence

[Euronion]

Oscar Grant was a citizen on christmas eve when he was stopped by a BART cop, The BART cop told Oscar Grant to sit down on the floor for suspected (I think it was drug realted) when the cop turned his back to Oscar to talk to another cop, Oscar had gotton up and was sprinting towards the cop, the BART cop panicked and menat to take out his teaser, when really he took out his gun, he shot Oscar Grant and ended up killing him. Well anyway after serving a 1 and a half year in jail for his actions The BART cop was released today and naturally there is a 'peaceful' protest. While I am not saying that it is right for the BART cop to shoot someone 1) he was panicking because some guy he suspected of being on drugs was sprinting towards him, how was he supposed to know that he was really sprinting towards the exit behind him 2)he meant to grab his teaser which he had just borrowed from a fellow BART cop because the city did not give enough teasers to the cops, so it was around 3 cops sharing a teaser. Another thing, why would Grant run if he was not guilty. When his sentence of 1 year was carried out there was supposed to be a 'peaceful' prtoest that night, it turned into a full scale riot and the riot police were called in. The most damning thing of all when asked by news groups what she thought of the sentence Oscar's mother said "You just watch it going to be going down tonight, you just wait and see" and walah, riot. The BART cop was released today after a year and a half in incarceration, and there was a protest today, in which protesters are demanding the disarment of cops and saying that the shooting was a violation of Civil Rights, I think that this is taking it too far, taking the evidence it is understandable why he shoot the man no matter how unjust, now he is having people calling him a racist, wanting a civil rights charge against him, I think cops have a hard enough as it is, what do you think NSGers? should civil rights be charged? should he be incarerated longer? do you think that a racist charge is justified just because the cop was white and Oscar was black?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/12/oscar-grant-supporters-gather-at-oakland-fruitvale-bart-station-to-protest-mehserle-release/
http://kron4.net/

[Ifreann]

Source?

Also, paragraphs are your friend.

[Tubbsalot]

Thanks for that enormous block of text, probably a bunch of biased assertions!

[Euronion]

probably a bunch of biased assertions!

I gave ciatations?

[Wilgrove]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

[Greed and Death]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

He was only suspended with pay while in prison. He is back on the force with a promotion from time in service to the force.

[Wilgrove]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

He was only suspended with pay while in prison. He is back on the force with a promotion from time in service to the force.

Dammit....

[Euronion]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

it was an accident, and the man who was shot was sprinting towards the cop, when the cop had reasons to believe he was under the influence of drugs, what would you have done?

[Flameswroth]

I think cops have a hard enough as it is, what do you think NSGers?

I agree. People have it in their heads that cops on the whole are bullies that like to abuse power. The Internet doesn't help in this regard, with plenty of videos of cops taking things a bit too far. Nonetheless, this cop was doing his job, and he served time for what he did. That comes as little consolation to whatever family Oscar has, but that hardly serves as justification to get all crazy aboot.

should civil rights be charged? should he be incarerated longer?

Not knowing the legal precident I cannot say for certain. But I think a year and a half incarceration for killing a guy when doing his job (something that happens with cops, sometimes) was probably already too much, if I had to choose.

do you think that a racist charge is justified just because the cop was white and Oscar was black?

Not the least bit justified. The man who died coincidentally happened to be black and the cop happened to be white. The longer we perpetuate that something is 'racist', the longer we're going to have to deal with race. The sooner we can get people to stop playing victim over crap like that, the better. Of course, as a disclaimer, I must quantify that staetment by saying that I am not a big fan of black-skinned individuals myself, but mostly on an aesthetics level.

[Esternial]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

it was an accident, and the man who was shot was sprinting towards the cop, when the cop had reasons to believe he was under the influence of drugs, what would you have done?

Take him down rather than be lazy and shoot him down? I dunno.

When I see someone running towards me, I'd just sucker punch him.

[Ifreann]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

it was an accident, and the man who was shot was sprinting towards the cop, when the cop had reasons to believe he was under the influence of drugs, what would you have done?

Sprinting where now?

Officer Johannes Mehserle and another officer were restraining Grant, who was prostrate and allegedly resisting arrest.[4][5][6] Officer Mehserle stood, drew his gun and shot Grant once in the back.

Very hard to sprint anywhere when two officers have you pinned to the ground.

[Euronion]

it was an accident, and the man who was shot was sprinting towards the cop, when the cop had reasons to believe he was under the influence of drugs, what would you have done?

Take him down rather than be lazy and shoot him down? I dunno.

When I see someone running towards me, I'd just sucker punch him.

since he was not searched yet, how are you supposed to know that he is not high and has a gun or knife under his coat, in case you didn't know Oakland has the top five most dangerous city in the nation
http://sfist.com/2010/11/22/oakland_again_among_top_five_most_d.php

[Barringtonia]

Here's hoping the BART officer spends the rest of his days behind a grill at McDonald instead of becoming a cop again.

it was an accident, and the man who was shot was sprinting towards the cop, when the cop had reasons to believe he was under the influence of drugs, what would you have done?

Great, I'll use that excuse from now on.

[Esternial]

Take him down rather than be lazy and shoot him down? I dunno.

When I see someone running towards me, I'd just sucker punch him.

since he was not searched yet, how are you supposed to know that he is not high and has a gun or knife under his coat, in case you didn't know Oakland has the worst crime in the nation

So because you think there's a chance he has a knife or gun (even though a gun doesn't require you to run towards someone), you decide to shoot someone?
Didn't know they taught you that in the Police Academy.

And he's a COP. If he can't take down one single guy without pulling his gun, he doesn't deserve that badge.

[Ifreann]

since he was not searched yet, how are you supposed to know that he is not high and has a gun or knife under his coat, in case you didn't know Oakland has the worst crime in the nation

So because you think there's a chance he has a knife, you decide to shoot someone? Didn't know they taught you that in the Police Academy.

And he's a COP. If he can't take down one single guy without pulling his gun, he doesn't deserve that badge.

He and another cop did take this man down. He was pinned to the ground when Officer Mehserle shot him.

[Robert Magoo]

A cop shouldn't be panicking. Maybe jail time is a bit extreme, but he shouldn't be a cop if he can't stay calm under pressure.

[Euronion]

since he was not searched yet, how are you supposed to know that he is not high and has a gun or knife under his coat, in case you didn't know Oakland has the worst crime in the nation

So because you think there's a chance he has a knife or gun (even though a gun doesn't require you to run towards someone), you decide to shoot someone?
Didn't know they taught you that in the Police Academy.

And he's a COP. If he can't take down one single guy without pulling his gun, he doesn't deserve that badge.

no they teach you to grab your stun gun, but since the city couldn't afford to provide every officer with one, it was shared between them and while transfering it between them it was put somewhere else on the belt, and besides if you have a family to feed, and a man you just tried to arrest decides to run towards ou for no apparant reason, are you willing risk your life on the basis that this suspected criminal is no criminal at all

[Euronion]

So because you think there's a chance he has a knife, you decide to shoot someone? Didn't know they taught you that in the Police Academy.

And he's a COP. If he can't take down one single guy without pulling his gun, he doesn't deserve that badge.

He and another cop did take this man down. He was pinned to the ground when Officer Mehserle shot him.

no he wasn't he was up and around, that was one of the justifications of the officer, resisting arrest, when a cop tells you tog et on the ground what do you do get on the ground or try and run away, because we all know how well running from the cops works

[Ifreann]

...a man you just tried to arrest decides to run towards ou...

Do stop saying that, it's not true.

[Esternial]

He and another cop did take this man down. He was pinned to the ground when Officer Mehserle shot him.

no he wasn't he was up and around, that was one of the justifications of the officer, resisting arrest, when a cop tells you tog et on the ground what do you do get on the ground or try and run away, because we all know how well running from the cops works

Indeed. You get shot.

God bless America.

[Barringtonia]

...a man you just tried to arrest decides to run towards ou...

Do stop saying that, it's not true.

*shoots Ifreann*

What? You were protesting.

[Ifreann]

He and another cop did take this man down. He was pinned to the ground when Officer Mehserle shot him.

no he wasn't he was up and around, that was one of the justifications of the officer, resisting arrest, when a cop tells you tog et on the ground what do you do get on the ground or try and run away, because we all know how well running from the cops works

Your own source says otherwise. According to the Wikipedia description of the event you linked to, Grant was being restrained on the ground by two officers, allegedly resisting, when Mehserle stood up and shot him. A man who is pinned on the ground is not running anywhere, it is physically impossible.

[Norstal]

Oscar Grant was a citizen on christmas eve when he was stopped by a BART cop, The BART cop told Oscar Grant to sit down on the floor for suspected (I think it was drug realted) when the cop turned his back to Oscar to talk to another cop, Oscar had gotton up and was sprinting towards the cop, the BART cop panicked and menat to take out his teaser, when really he took out his gun, he shot Oscar Grant and ended up killing him. Well anyway after serving a 1 and a half year in jail for his actions The BART cop was released today and naturally there is a 'peaceful' protest. While I am not saying that it is right for the BART cop to shoot someone 1) he was panicking because some guy he suspected of being on drugs was sprinting towards him, how was he supposed to know that he was really sprinting towards the exit behind him 2)he meant to grab his teaser which he had just borrowed from a fellow BART cop because the city did not give enough teasers to the cops, so it was around 3 cops sharing a teaser. Another thing, why would Grant run if he was not guilty. When his sentence of 1 year was carried out there was supposed to be a 'peaceful' prtoest that night, it turned into a full scale riot and the riot police were called in. The most damning thing of all when asked by news groups what she thought of the sentence Oscar's mother said "You just watch it going to be going down tonight, you just wait and see" and walah, riot. The BART cop was released today after a year and a half in incarceration, and there was a protest today, in which protesters are demanding the disarment of cops and saying that the shooting was a violation of Civil Rights, I think that this is taking it too far, taking the evidence it is understandable why he shoot the man no matter how unjust, now he is having people calling him a racist, wanting a civil rights charge against him, I think cops have a hard enough as it is, what do you think NSGers? should civil rights be charged? should he be incarerated longer? do you think that a racist charge is justified just because the cop was white and Oscar was black?

The English language is dead at you feet, blood leaking from the stab wounds you carved on her torso, as you proceed to sodomize her mangled, desecrated corpse.

He was only suspended with pay while in prison. He is back on the force with a promotion from time in service to the force.

Dammit....

Justice has been served. There's nothing more to do about it.

[-St George]

He and another cop did take this man down. He was pinned to the ground when Officer Mehserle shot him.

no he wasn't he was up and around, that was one of the justifications of the officer, resisting arrest, when a cop tells you tog et on the ground what do you do get on the ground or try and run away, because we all know how well running from the cops works

From your wiki link:
Officer Johannes Mehserle and another officer were restraining Grant, who was prostrate and allegedly resisting arrest.[4][5][6] Officer Mehserle stood, drew his gun and shot Grant once in the back.

[Esternial]

Indeed. And if there's anything Wikipedia taught us, it's that everything followed by numbers between brackets is the truth.