SB 1070 spreading to other states in the Union

[America Liberated]

Scouring through syndicated news media outlets until I found this:

LOS ANGELES -- A bill similar to Arizona’s controversial Senate Bill 1070 has been filed in California. Yesterday the California secretary of state authorized a signature drive for the “Support Federal Immigration Law Act” to be considered by voters in the next state election. Tea Party activist Michael Erickson, of Belmont, Calif., filed the proposal. The initiative would require law enforcement to verify the legal status of people they stop, even if they don’t arrest them; make it illegal to transport undocumented people, or look for work on the street; impose heavy fines on employers who hire undocumented workers, "knowingly or unknowingly"; and mandate businesses to use the E-Verify system. It would also make sanctuary cities illegal.

In an interview with La Opinion, Erickson said he has a "network of activists, mainly from the Tea Party, will work to circulate the petitions and seek help in other communities."

He added that this is not an attempt to target a sector of the population, since, he says, "half of the members of my executive committee are Hispanic."

Link here: http://newamericamedia.org/2010/11/sb-1 ... fornia.php

I know that this is last year's news but I really wanted to shed light on this issue. As a Californian, I'd highly support this proposal. Not to mention the fact that crime has dropped significantly since the bill was passed in Arizona last year.

NSG, would you support an SB 1070-inspired bill in your local community or state? Discuss.

[AlexJacobii]

I would support a bill like that here in Aberdeen. The number of Arabic immigrants we have been getting here lately is ridiculous. Then again we are not the "Land of the Free". I would say America does need laws like that passed throughout. The other immigrants never tried to force America to learn their language, what makes it right for these immigrants to try to take over America and it's "culture"?

[Norstal]

I would support a bill like that here in Aberdeen. The number of Arabic immigrants we have been getting here lately is ridiculous. Then again we are not the "Land of the Free". I would say America does need laws like that passed throughout. The other immigrants never tried to force America to learn their language, what makes it right for these immigrants to try to take over America and it's "culture"?

Living with only your race would be boring, don't you think?

[Norstal]

NSG, would you support an SB 1070-inspired bill in your local community or state? Discuss.

It's a step forward to a police state. So if you find that kinky or have a penchant with men in uniforms, I guess that'd be good for you.

As for me, obviously no. "Stop everyone I like" is not a good policy.

[America Liberated]

I would support a bill like that here in Aberdeen. The number of Arabic immigrants we have been getting here lately is ridiculous. Then again we are not the "Land of the Free". I would say America does need laws like that passed throughout. The other immigrants never tried to force America to learn their language, what makes it right for these immigrants to try to take over America and it's "culture"?

Agreed. Let me just point out the fact that I am not from Britain or from the UK for that matter, but we Americans here in the United States understand your grievances. The thing that sickens me about the Arab migrations to the British Isles is the petitions that they constantly propose so that HM Government observes Sharia law. Sharia law is a cultural, not political or social, law and should never be enforced by governmental authorities and figures.

Most Americans here are pretty tolerant of the immigrant populations here. A native of California, I've had my share of discriminate racism for being white. It sickens me to the point where it boils down to my head but when I feel like protesting, it seems as if i'm just another member of the KKK.

[America Liberated]

Living with only your race would be boring, don't you think?

It sure does extinguish internal social dissent, however.

[Sovereign Spirits]

If such a bill is presented in my State, I will fight against it.

[Maurepas]

I would support a bill like that here in Aberdeen. The number of Arabic immigrants we have been getting here lately is ridiculous. Then again we are not the "Land of the Free". I would say America does need laws like that passed throughout. The other immigrants never tried to force America to learn their language, what makes it right for these immigrants to try to take over America and it's "culture"?

I don't think any of them are forcing one to learn their language. It's merely business marketing towards as many people as they can. Noone can force anyone to learn a language in the US, to my knowledge, it's illegal.

And as I've said, I think the Arizona bill is both discriminatory and unconstitutional, as well as failing to solve the actual problem: Business Owners. Attacking immigrants just allows some stupid Teabagger to say he's "tough on immigration", but I'll be damned if I've ever seen one attack the disease, Businesses exploiting them for Cheap Labour.

[Wikkiwallana]

Living with only your race would be boring, don't you think?

It sure does extinguish internal social dissent, however.

Not really. Differing views cause far more dissent than differing ethnicities

[Rhodmhire]

Living with only your race would be boring, don't you think?

It sure does extinguish internal social dissent, however.

Whities can dissent too, last I checked.

Heck, any legal American citizen can, for that matter, whatever his melanin levels are.

[Norstal]

Living with only your race would be boring, don't you think?

It sure does extinguish internal social dissent, however.

But...it's boring. Those dissent wouldn't exist if people actually treat each other as human beings. I mean, god, I can't imagine how I'd live with people of my own race constantly.

Also, they'd still exist. White people aren't perfect you know. The Japanese however....

[Rhodmhire]

But...it's boring. Those dissent wouldn't exist if people actually treat each other as human beings. I mean, god, I can't imagine how I'd live with people of my own race constantly.

Also, they'd still exist. White people aren't perfect you know. The Japanese however....

Are you suggesting that the Japanese are the closest that humanity will ever get to perfection?

Because if you are, I have no reason not to assent.

[Malgrave]

I would support a bill like that here in Aberdeen. The number of Arabic immigrants we have been getting here lately is ridiculous. Then again we are not the "Land of the Free". I would say America does need laws like that passed throughout. The other immigrants never tried to force America to learn their language, what makes it right for these immigrants to try to take over America and it's "culture"?

Agreed. Let me just point out the fact that I am not from Britain or from the UK for that matter, but we Americans here in the United States understand your grievances. The thing that sickens me about the Arab migrations to the British Isles is the petitions that they constantly propose so that HM Government observes Sharia law. Sharia law is a cultural, not political or social, law and should never be enforced by governmental authorities and figures.

Most Americans here are pretty tolerant of the immigrant populations here. A native of California, I've had my share of discriminate racism for being white. It sickens me to the point where it boils down to my head but when I feel like protesting, it seems as if i'm just another member of the KKK.

What petitions? I'm from the United Kingdom and i've heard no such thing. I also don't have an issue with the cultural diversification of the United Kingdom.

[Avenio]

NSG, would you support an SB 1070-inspired bill in your local community or state?

Provinces here in Canada don't have the authority to pass immigration legislation (It's been said that our Fathers of Confederation learned from the U.S.'s example in the regard of province's rights, but that's for another thread), but no, I wouldn't support any federal immigration legislation akin to the beautifully-named SB-1070. Immigration's not nearly enough of a big enough issue here to warrant such draconian measures.

Nor, in my mind, is it all that necessary to implement them in the States; illegal immigration rates have declined by 60% since 2000, the lowest rate in 35 years. The issue would be much better solved by a combination of fighting the root problems of the immigration in Mexico, putting in workplace reforms at a federal level, and, more importantly try to change worker views on the menial jobs that the immigrants are filling; case in point, according to a campaign put together by Stephen Colbert, when California's agricultural industry put out a call for unemployed and welfare recipients to work on the farms, only three people showed up. Americans, by and large, croon about jobs lost to 'illegals', but the whole reason there are jobs for them to take in the first place is that no-one in the States wants them. That needs to change if you ever want to see improvement on the immigration front.

[Norstal]

But...it's boring. Those dissent wouldn't exist if people actually treat each other as human beings. I mean, god, I can't imagine how I'd live with people of my own race constantly.

Also, they'd still exist. White people aren't perfect you know. The Japanese however....

Are you suggesting that the Japanese are the closest that humanity will ever get to perfection?

Because if you are, I have no reason not to assent.

I measure a civilization's perfection by their ability to create porn games

Expect the Japanese to take over the world in the near future, while we still dabble in impotent "Strip poker" games. Bah.

[Rhodmhire]

I measure a civilization's perfection by their ability to create porn games

Expect the Japanese to take over the world in the near future, while we still dabble in impotent "Strip poker" games. Bah.

A very pleasurable yet at the same time dangerous prospect.

Maybe we need some more SB 1070s focusing on the Japanese instead of the Mexicans here in the States.

But then again, those games are quite valuable...

[Barringtonia]

Attacking immigrants just allows some stupid Teabagger to say he's "tough on immigration", but I'll be damned if I've ever seen one attack the disease, Businesses exploiting them for Cheap Labour.

Exactly, it's like prosecuting the addict while letting the dealer go scott free.

[America Liberated]

Agreed. Let me just point out the fact that I am not from Britain or from the UK for that matter, but we Americans here in the United States understand your grievances. The thing that sickens me about the Arab migrations to the British Isles is the petitions that they constantly propose so that HM Government observes Sharia law. Sharia law is a cultural, not political or social, law and should never be enforced by governmental authorities and figures.

Most Americans here are pretty tolerant of the immigrant populations here. A native of California, I've had my share of discriminate racism for being white. It sickens me to the point where it boils down to my head but when I feel like protesting, it seems as if i'm just another member of the KKK.

What petitions? I'm from the United Kingdom and i've heard no such thing. I also don't have an issue with the cultural diversification of the United Kingdom.

I read in a newspaper article in The Guardian at Heathrow International about how Sharia associations such as the Islamic Sharia Council are conducting Sharia for a monetary fee for Muslims living in the United Kingdom. I guess I had my association of the word ''petition'' mixed up, because I was also unfortunately thinking about the anti-Sharia petitions posted throughout YouTube and the social media. Then again, however, Sharia should never be practiced because British law remains as the predominant source of law. The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal is a prime example of how Sharia has managed to successfully creep into the British legal system.

[The Black Forrest]

Not surprised and in the past I would have thought it had not hope in hell but that changed with prop 8. When I heard people talking about voting for it because 1st graders were going to be force fed lessons on the gay lifestyle.....

I won't vote for it; let alone sign the petition.

"He added that this is not an attempt to target a sector of the population, since, he says, "half of the members of my executive committee are Hispanic." "

I love that logic. I am not racist; I have Hispanic friends.

[Norstal]

I love that logic. I am not racist; I have Hispanic friends.

I'd actually give the Tea Party more credit if they admit their racism.

Same goes to anyone who supports this bill really.

[Greed and Death]

I would support a bill like that here in Aberdeen. The number of Arabic immigrants we have been getting here lately is ridiculous. Then again we are not the "Land of the Free". I would say America does need laws like that passed throughout. The other immigrants never tried to force America to learn their language, what makes it right for these immigrants to try to take over America and it's "culture"?

I don't think any of them are forcing one to learn their language. It's merely business marketing towards as many people as they can. Noone can force anyone to learn a language in the US, to my knowledge, it's illegal.

And as I've said, I think the Arizona bill is both discriminatory and unconstitutional, as well as failing to solve the actual problem: Business Owners. Attacking immigrants just allows some stupid Teabagger to say he's "tough on immigration", but I'll be damned if I've ever seen one attack the disease, Businesses exploiting them for Cheap Labour.

Texas has recently passed legislation requiring everyone to learn the Texas Dialect of English.

[Maurepas]

I don't think any of them are forcing one to learn their language. It's merely business marketing towards as many people as they can. Noone can force anyone to learn a language in the US, to my knowledge, it's illegal.

And as I've said, I think the Arizona bill is both discriminatory and unconstitutional, as well as failing to solve the actual problem: Business Owners. Attacking immigrants just allows some stupid Teabagger to say he's "tough on immigration", but I'll be damned if I've ever seen one attack the disease, Businesses exploiting them for Cheap Labour.

Texas has recently passed legislation requiring everyone to learn the Texas Dialect of English.

Well that doesn't necessarily mean it's legal,

[Greed and Death]

Texas has recently passed legislation requiring everyone to learn the Texas Dialect of English.

Well that doesn't necessarily mean it's legal,

The law has a built in measure allowing anyone who challenges it in federal court to be shot on sight. No one has thus far challenged the legality of the law.

[Maurepas]

Well that doesn't necessarily mean it's legal,

The law has a built in measure allowing anyone who challenges it in federal court to be shot on sight. No one has thus far challenged the legality of the law.

Yeah that'll about do it, heh heh

[New Kilballyowen]

All SB 1070 did was take the laws that are already in place at the Federal level (and which are not enforced) and bring them down to the state level. The law is constitutional, and was enacted democratically by the elected representatives of the citizens or the state of Arizona. As such, I'm all for it. Personally, having lived in southern Arizona for many years, I'm all for the law. Things are getting pretty out-of-control near the border. That said, if other states want to enact these laws democratically, fantastic! And if these laws are voted down democratically in other states, that's fine too.