Man, 70, Stoned to Death for Being Gay: Police

[Vortiaganica]

God does not hate gays. men do and men can change holy books and can form churches to advance their agendas.

Hate the sin not the sinner. (Idea of homosexuality being a sin not being answered to just yet)

We had a discussion about this in our church youth group the other day.

It's like hating X-Boxs but not X-Box players. Only some people (right, Microsoft?) get a little hard-core and start murdering people and covering the bodies up.

[The Halbetan Union]

Yet another idiot whom makes it appear that all of us theists are stupid, ignorant, or non-accepting.

Almost as if there is a pattern.

[The Parkus Empire]

Christians are a bunch backward people trying to destroy Western culture! Religion of violence, religion of violence! Ban nuns from covering their heads! Ban long skirts!

[Natapoc]

Regarding the hate thing... Lets see what God hates:

Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

So out of the seven things god hates this man represents 6 of them...

There is no evidence that the God of the bible hates that 70 year old man or "gays" But God sure hates Thomas who killed that 70 year old man... for 6 different reasons.

Revelation 21:8
But ... murderers and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Seems that according to this guys God he's going to be thrown into a lake of fire because his god HATES him. lol

[Vitius]

Yet another idiot whom makes it appear that all of us theists are stupid, ignorant, or non-accepting.

Almost as if there is a pattern.

There is a pattern. Some number of atheists also kill/do stupid things. I don't see your point.

[Vortiaganica]

Regarding the hate thing... Lets see what God hates:

Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

So out of the seven things god hates this man represents 6 of them...

There is no evidence that the God of the bible hates that 70 year old man or "gays" But God sure hates Thomas who killed that 70 year old man... for 6 different reasons.

Revelation 21:8
But ... murderers and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Seems that according to this guys God he's going to be thrown into a lake of fire because his god HATES him. lol

You forgot the brimstone - argument invalid.

Let me just play devil's advocate for a minute: Hitler. You lose HAHAHAHA

[Demen]

Yet another idiot whom makes it appear that all of us theists are stupid, ignorant, or non-accepting.

Almost as if there is a pattern.

[MidnightLiberty]

This is the crap you get with religion

Considering the guy was the sole executor of the will, I highly doubt it has to do with religion and more to do with impatience. He is just using the religion card hoping to get a lesser sentence for temporary insanity.

[Demen]

Almost as if there is a pattern.

There is a pattern. Some number of atheists also kill/do stupid things. I don't see your point.

Can you name a time when atheists made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun?

That homosexuals are a bane upon humanity?

Killed thousands of muslims?


No? Well, fancy that.

[Natapoc]

This is the crap you get with religion

Considering the guy was the sole executor of the will, I highly doubt it has to do with religion and more to do with impatience. He is just using the religion card hoping to get a lesser sentence for temporary insanity.

And that he'll get a homophobic jury/judge that will lesson the sentence from premeditated murder to something more likley to have him see the outside of a jail cell sometime during his life.

[Natapoc]

There is a pattern. Some number of atheists also kill/do stupid things. I don't see your point.

Can you name a time when atheists made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun?

That homosexuals are a bane upon humanity?

Killed thousands of muslims?


No? Well, fancy that.

To be fair we have very little recorded history of atheists. I don't believe that people are horrible because of religion. I think that some people are horrible... and they will use religion, communism, statism, even anarchism as a way to try to excuse their horrible behavior.

[Demen]

Can you name a time when atheists made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun?

That homosexuals are a bane upon humanity?

Killed thousands of muslims?


No? Well, fancy that.

To be fair we have very little recorded history of atheists. I don't believe that people are horrible because of religion. I think that some people are horrible... and they will use religion, communism, statism, even anarchism as a way to try to excuse their horrible behavior.

I'm pointing out that his point is incredibly false.

I'm not saying that what the guy did is because of what he says it is.

[Yuktova]

I seriously thought this was going to be in Iran.

I thought so too, but when I heard it was in America, I was shocked. I think that person should get stoned for killing an elderly man. if he murdered the old man using the Old Testament way, then the murderer should be killed using the Old Testament way. I usually go for rehabilitation when it comes to criminals but in this case, no, just plain no. Just shows you how barbaric America as become. First, gay people get thrown in Conservititve Concentration Camps and now, an old man was stoned to death. . . In America!

[The Halbetan Union]

Almost as if there is a pattern.

There is a pattern. Some number of atheists also kill/do stupid things. I don't see your point.

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Almost as if there is a pattern.

[Fartsniffage]

This is the crap you get with religion

Considering the guy was the sole executor of the will, I highly doubt it has to do with religion and more to do with impatience. He is just using the religion card hoping to get a lesser sentence for temporary insanity.

Umm, an executor of a will is not a beneficiary. Unless the US systems differs wildly from the UK system.

I'm the executor of my grandmothers will, I don't receive a penny other than expenses.

[Natapoc]

I seriously thought this was going to be in Iran.

I thought so too, but when I heard it was in America, I was shocked. I think that person should get stoned for killing an elderly man. if he murdered the old man using the Old Testament way, then the murderer should be killed using the Old Testament way. I usually go for rehabilitation when it comes to criminals but in this case, no, just plain no. Just shows you how barbaric America as become. First, gay people get thrown in Conservititve Concentration Camps and now, an old man was stoned to death. . . In America!

I don't mind but in fairness it should really be done by a mob of vigilantes, not the state, the same way stoning was done in the bible.

Let the guy out during a gay pride march, tie him to a post and promise no prosecution for anything done to him within a 60 hour period.

Most gay people are far to nice to throw a rock at even someone who wants to kill them.

but I suspect you could find one or two who would agree to compose a mob of stone throwers

[Yuktova]

I thought so too, but when I heard it was in America, I was shocked. I think that person should get stoned for killing an elderly man. if he murdered the old man using the Old Testament way, then the murderer should be killed using the Old Testament way. I usually go for rehabilitation when it comes to criminals but in this case, no, just plain no. Just shows you how barbaric America as become. First, gay people get thrown in Conservititve Concentration Camps and now, an old man was stoned to death. . . In America!

I don't mind but in fairness it should really be done by a mob of vigilantes, not the state, the same way stoning was done in the bible.

Let the guy out during a gay pride march, tie him to a post and promise no prosecution for anything done to him within a 60 hour period.

Most gay people are far to nice to throw a rock at even someone who wants to kill them.

but I suspect you could find one or two who would agree to compose a mob of stone throwers

That would be the best option, but then the state comes in and says "You can't do this, he can kill whoever he wants" bullcrap.
That's why I am an Anarchist!

[Vitius]

There is a pattern. Some number of atheists also kill/do stupid things. I don't see your point.

Can you name a time when atheists made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun?

That homosexuals are a bane upon humanity?

Killed thousands of muslims?


No? Well, fancy that.

Nah, I can't really name a time when an atheist killed thousands of Muslims. Or thought that homosexuals were a 'bane upon humanity'. Or when they made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun.

However, I can name a few fellas whom were atheist, and what their actions were throughout life:

-Joseph Stalin: A guy out of Russia. Some say he killed anywhere from one million to thirty million.
-Pol Pot: A guy out of Asia. Some say he killed anywhere from one million to two million.
-Than Shwe: A guy out of Burma/Myanmar. Rules an oppresive regime over an Asian nation.
-Kim Jong-il: No words needed.
-Mao Zedong: A guy out of China. Destroyed years of history, killed and oppressed many scholars, and burnt many copies of the Quran.

Mind you, I'm not trying to get into a fight about whether more atheists or more theists commited crimes on the Earth. Because we all know the answer: Theists have done more harm to the Earth than atheists. I'm merely trying to say that it's idiotic to say that bad people are only theists. Because when you think of it, (this is really corny, so prepare yourself) we're all humans. And that means we can all cause harm.

[The Halbetan Union]

Can you name a time when atheists made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun?

That homosexuals are a bane upon humanity?

Killed thousands of muslims?


No? Well, fancy that.

Nah, I can't really name a time when an atheist killed thousands of Muslims. Or thought that homosexuals were a 'bane upon humanity'. Or when they made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun.

However, I can name a few fellas whom were atheist, and what their actions were throughout life:

-Joseph Stalin: A guy out of Russia. Some say he killed anywhere from one million to thirty million.
-Pol Pot: A guy out of Asia. Some say he killed anywhere from one million to two million.
-Than Shwe: A guy out of Burma/Myanmar. Rules an oppresive regime over an Asian nation.
-Kim Jong-il: No words needed.
-Mao Zedong: A guy out of China. Destroyed years of history, killed and oppressed many scholars, and burnt many copies of the Quran.

Mind you, I'm not trying to get into a fight about whether more atheists or more theists commited crimes on the Earth. Because we all know the answer: Theists have done more harm to the Earth than atheists. I'm merely trying to say that it's idiotic to say that bad people are only theists. Because when you think of it, (this is really corny, so prepare yourself) we're all humans. And that means we can all cause harm.

Know the difference? These people didn't do what they did in the name of atheism.

[Vitius]

Nah, I can't really name a time when an atheist killed thousands of Muslims. Or thought that homosexuals were a 'bane upon humanity'. Or when they made it illegal to believe that the Earth revolved around the sun.

However, I can name a few fellas whom were atheist, and what their actions were throughout life:

-Joseph Stalin: A guy out of Russia. Some say he killed anywhere from one million to thirty million.
-Pol Pot: A guy out of Asia. Some say he killed anywhere from one million to two million.
-Than Shwe: A guy out of Burma/Myanmar. Rules an oppresive regime over an Asian nation.
-Kim Jong-il: No words needed.
-Mao Zedong: A guy out of China. Destroyed years of history, killed and oppressed many scholars, and burnt many copies of the Quran.

Mind you, I'm not trying to get into a fight about whether more atheists or more theists commited crimes on the Earth. Because we all know the answer: Theists have done more harm to the Earth than atheists. I'm merely trying to say that it's idiotic to say that bad people are only theists. Because when you think of it, (this is really corny, so prepare yourself) we're all humans. And that means we can all cause harm.

Know the difference? These people didn't do what they did in the name of atheism.

That's because you can't do anything in the name of atheism. Atheism is the lack of beliefs. You can't base an argument on the lack of nothing. Plain and simple. It's a negative argument.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

God does not hate gays. men do and men can change holy books and can form churches to advance their agendas.

Hate the sin not the sinner. (Idea of homosexuality being a sin not being answered to just yet)

We had a discussion about this in our church youth group the other day.

It's like hating X-Boxs but not X-Box players. Only some people (right, Microsoft?) get a little hard-core and start murdering people and covering the bodies up.

Did you compare religion to video games?

I applaud you, good sir.

[Takaram]

I seriously thought this was going to be in Iran.

I thought so too, but when I heard it was in America, I was shocked. I think that person should get stoned for killing an elderly man. if he murdered the old man using the Old Testament way, then the murderer should be killed using the Old Testament way. I usually go for rehabilitation when it comes to criminals but in this case, no, just plain no. Just shows you how barbaric America as become. First, gay people get thrown in Conservititve Concentration Camps and now, an old man was stoned to death. . . In America!

No, the murder of an elderly gay man in America doesn't shock me. The stoning part does. I mean, honestly, stoning? How primitive. This is America, damnit! We get shot here, not stoned!

[The Halbetan Union]

Know the difference? These people didn't do what they did in the name of atheism.

That's because you can't do anything in the name of atheism. Atheism is the lack of beliefs. You can't base an argument on the lack of nothing. Plain and simple. It's a negative argument.

How does that defeat my point at all?

Here's a hint:

It doesn't.

[H-Alba]

This honestly disgusts me, it makes me feel sick to my stomach.

[Beedli]

It shouldn't make you sick to your stomach because it does say that in the bible. But note how it says he read it in the old testament. The old testament were man made rules. Well at least he was following the bible unlike the gay dude.