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by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:30 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by City 9 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:31 am
Deshalb sagte ich ja "direkte" Übersetzung und habe mich wie ein einfacher Online-Übersetzer verhalten.
)As you may imagine, City 9 is a colony of the Universal Union aka "The Combine". Regarding the different freedoms: For this, I have to tell you something about the 'style' of the Universal Union. Most occupied races become mindless slaves and can make no decisions on their own. We can use them as workers, soldiers, just as we please and the only thing we have to do is keeping them alive, nothing else. Therefore: Low personal/political freedoms; Good industry represented by high economic freedoms | This nation is a part of the Universal Union(Combine). |

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:32 am
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:33 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:34 am
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by City 9 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:34 am
Caninope wrote:City 9 wrote:If you´d just left out "ein", it would be okay, because "Obst" needs no further word before it. You would say "ein", if you´d have specified a special masculine fruit, e. g. "ein Apfel".
It's alright to say ein with Obst because Obst is neuter, thus uses "ein" in the akkusativ. But he still shouldn't have used it.
As you may imagine, City 9 is a colony of the Universal Union aka "The Combine". Regarding the different freedoms: For this, I have to tell you something about the 'style' of the Universal Union. Most occupied races become mindless slaves and can make no decisions on their own. We can use them as workers, soldiers, just as we please and the only thing we have to do is keeping them alive, nothing else. Therefore: Low personal/political freedoms; Good industry represented by high economic freedoms | This nation is a part of the Universal Union(Combine). |

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:35 am
Caninope wrote:City 9 wrote:If you´d just left out "ein", it would be okay, because "Obst" needs no further word before it. You would say "ein", if you´d have specified a special masculine fruit, e. g. "ein Apfel".
It's alright to say ein with Obst because Obst is neuter, thus uses "ein" in the akkusativ. But he still shouldn't have used it.
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:36 am
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by New Freedomstan » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:36 am

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:37 am
City 9 wrote:Caninope wrote:It's alright to say ein with Obst because Obst is neuter, thus uses "ein" in the akkusativ. But he still shouldn't have used it.
Since Obst is used as a material, no "ein". He could have said "aus Obst", which would be okay. However, not using any word before Obst in this sentewnce would be best. (Though it is always better to specify the fruit, because it simply sounds better)
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by Bodegraven » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:38 am
New Freedomstan wrote:Ich spreche Deutsch, aber meine Muttersprach ist Norwegisch.
I hope that was right.

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:38 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:39 am
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:41 am
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by City 9 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:41 am
Caninope wrote:City 9 wrote:Since Obst is used as a material, no "ein". He could have said "aus Obst", which would be okay. However, not using any word before Obst in this sentewnce would be best. (Though it is always better to specify the fruit, because it simply sounds better)
I agree, he shouldn't have used "ein" but if it were a case where he could have, he wouldn't have needed to use a masculine fruit.
That's all.
As you may imagine, City 9 is a colony of the Universal Union aka "The Combine". Regarding the different freedoms: For this, I have to tell you something about the 'style' of the Universal Union. Most occupied races become mindless slaves and can make no decisions on their own. We can use them as workers, soldiers, just as we please and the only thing we have to do is keeping them alive, nothing else. Therefore: Low personal/political freedoms; Good industry represented by high economic freedoms | This nation is a part of the Universal Union(Combine). |

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:42 am

Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:43 am
City 9 wrote:Caninope wrote:I agree, he shouldn't have used "ein" but if it were a case where he could have, he wouldn't have needed to use a masculine fruit.
That's all.
But what about: "Dein Kopf ist eine Birne"? Since Birne is feminim, "ein" works not for it. (Since "ein" is only used for masculine and neuter)
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:44 am
Caninope wrote:Staenwald wrote: Yeah, I'd prefer to let the german native take authority on german usage. You were almost right, but 'sein' doesn't take the akkusativ.
Sein is normally used as the infinitive of to be, but when used as a pronoun, it actually does take the akkustativ. And ein most definitely does, because ein switches to einer with masculine verbs.
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:46 am
Staenwald wrote:Caninope wrote:Sein is normally used as the infinitive of to be, but when used as a pronoun, it actually does take the akkustativ. And ein most definitely does, because ein switches to einer with masculine verbs.
nono. 'sein' as in the verb 'to be'. When describing something, the nominative applies to the object of the sentence when using the verb 'sein' because the subject and object are the same.
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:47 am
Caninope wrote:Staenwald wrote:nono. 'sein' as in the verb 'to be'. When describing something, the nominative applies to the object of the sentence when using the verb 'sein' because the subject and object are the same.
Oh yeah. Point still stands though, because neuter uses ein in the nominative case too.
. i was just correcting you, don't want you to be wrong
I've been doing German for 6 years so...Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by City 9 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:48 am
Caninope wrote:City 9 wrote:But what about: "Dein Kopf ist eine Birne"? Since Birne is feminim, "ein" works not for it. (Since "ein" is only used for masculine and neuter)
I was most clearly trying to refer to the fact that Obst is a neuter, hence why I pointed it out in the beginning of the discussion.
As you may imagine, City 9 is a colony of the Universal Union aka "The Combine". Regarding the different freedoms: For this, I have to tell you something about the 'style' of the Universal Union. Most occupied races become mindless slaves and can make no decisions on their own. We can use them as workers, soldiers, just as we please and the only thing we have to do is keeping them alive, nothing else. Therefore: Low personal/political freedoms; Good industry represented by high economic freedoms | This nation is a part of the Universal Union(Combine). |

by Maltropia » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:49 am

by Staenwald » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:49 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.

by Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:49 am
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

by City 9 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:51 am
As you may imagine, City 9 is a colony of the Universal Union aka "The Combine". Regarding the different freedoms: For this, I have to tell you something about the 'style' of the Universal Union. Most occupied races become mindless slaves and can make no decisions on their own. We can use them as workers, soldiers, just as we please and the only thing we have to do is keeping them alive, nothing else. Therefore: Low personal/political freedoms; Good industry represented by high economic freedoms | This nation is a part of the Universal Union(Combine). |
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