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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:32 am

Blazedtown wrote:
Kashyr wrote:
You've got an electric fence and armed patrols. What more do you want, minefields? Killer robots? Orbital lasers?


The fence doesn't cover the whole border and its not electric. The armed patrols can't really do anything. A minefield would be a good start.

If by 'good start' you mean 'batshit insane idea'.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:33 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
The fence doesn't cover the whole border and its not electric. The armed patrols can't really do anything. A minefield would be a good start.

Yeah, let's cut off trade with Mexico while we're at it.

We should probably get started with the internment of all Latinos near the border states, to weed out the possibly-sort-of-illegal-but-maybe-not immigrants.

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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:37 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Yeah, let's cut off trade with Mexico while we're at it.

We should probably get started with the internment of all Latinos near the border states, to weed out the possibly-sort-of-illegal-but-maybe-not immigrants.

Yeah.

Then we should nuke DC. I require one month notice for that though. Just so I can get the hell out of here.
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Postby Marisena » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:40 am

All I am asking for is a little more defense (especially around mountainous regions). I mean, we are obviously not doing something right.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:42 am

Marisena wrote:All I am asking for is a little more defense (especially around mountainous regions). I mean, we are obviously not doing something right.

Yes, we need to make the immigration and citizen process easier. Such would massively help the illegal immigrant problem.

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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:43 am

Marisena wrote:All I am asking for is a little more defense (especially around mountainous regions). I mean, we are obviously not doing something right.

What you're doing wrong is not giving enough visas. You have quotas of the same number for every country, regardless of the countries' size.
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Postby Marisena » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:43 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Marisena wrote:All I am asking for is a little more defense (especially around mountainous regions). I mean, we are obviously not doing something right.

Yes, we need to make the immigration and citizen process easier. Such would massively help the illegal immigrant problem.

It would help. But the Mexican government needs to start getting their shit together aswell.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:15 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Kashyr wrote:
You've got an electric fence and armed patrols. What more do you want, minefields? Killer robots? Orbital lasers?


The fence doesn't cover the whole border and its not electric. The armed patrols can't really do anything. A minefield would be a good start.


Minefield? Seriously? You don't think those can be defeated?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:17 pm

Marisena wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Yes, we need to make the immigration and citizen process easier. Such would massively help the illegal immigrant problem.

It would help. But the Mexican government needs to start getting their shit together aswell.


I think it's more important ours get's it together.

The fact they are wailing about the brown horde shows they aren't doing much.
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Postby Greater Cabinda » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:18 pm

Marisena wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Yes, we need to make the immigration and citizen process easier. Such would massively help the illegal immigrant problem.

It would help. But the Mexican government needs to start getting their shit together aswell.

If we get ours together, its easier for them to get theirs together.
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Postby Coccygia » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:40 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Coccygia wrote:Oh, God forbid the US should enforce its immigration laws. Like Mexico does against other Latin American countries, because they don't want them coming to Mexico, or worse yet, coming to the US where they will take jobs away from Mexican illegals.

God forbid the States let the Feds do their jobs instead of trying to ursurp their authority. :roll:

The Feds are not doing their job, that's why we have 11 million illegals.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:52 pm

Naurobia wrote:
Sunny Marionette wrote:It will lead to more stereotyping, racial profiling, and racism. Not things we need more of.


Exactly. I think the Supreme Court should amend the Constitution to prevent states and localities from passing these types of laws.


The Supreme Court doesn't amend the Constitution, that's Congress's job.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:49 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Kashyr wrote:
You've got an electric fence and armed patrols. What more do you want, minefields? Killer robots? Orbital lasers?


The fence doesn't cover the whole border and its not electric. The armed patrols can't really do anything. A minefield would be a good start.


Maybe if we use dye pack mines. That way, nobody gets killed, and the police/border patrol can identify people jumping the border easily.
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

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Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...


Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.


Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.

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Postby Greater Cabinda » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:51 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:God forbid the States let the Feds do their jobs instead of trying to ursurp their authority. :roll:

The Feds are not doing their job, that's why we have 11 million illegals.

That's like saying "The cops aren't doing their job. That's why we have crime."
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Postby Greater Cabinda » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:51 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
The fence doesn't cover the whole border and its not electric. The armed patrols can't really do anything. A minefield would be a good start.


Maybe if we use dye pack mines. That way, nobody gets killed, and the police/border patrol can identify people jumping the border easily.

That's actually not a bad idea.

I'd want the feds to do it, though.
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Postby Kashyr » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:12 pm

Clearly trying to make a better life for yourself is the greatest crime of all. I keep forgetting that America hates the fuck out of capitalism. Silly me.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:16 pm

Kashyr wrote:Clearly trying to make a better life for yourself is the greatest crime of all. I keep forgetting that America hates the fuck out of capitalism. Silly me.


Much as I have my arguments against the concept of the completely free market; this is not driven by the capitalist ideology.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:31 pm

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I share his views on the subject, so here you go.
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Postby Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:12 am

Ifreann wrote:
Caninope wrote:Is this really going to be so hard? Won't driver licenses work anyway?

What about legal residents that don't drive?

Why would they be stopped?
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Postby Orlkjestad » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:18 am

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Postby Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:23 am

Orlkjestad wrote:Sic semper tyrannis, this will eventually fail.

How is this tyranny?
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Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Sorratsin » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:29 am

Caninope wrote:
Orlkjestad wrote:Sic semper tyrannis, this will eventually fail.

How is this tyranny?


Forcing citizens to present identification or face arrest because they belong to a certain ethnic group, how could it not be tyranny?

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Postby Orlkjestad » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:31 am

Sorratsin wrote:
Caninope wrote:How is this tyranny?


Forcing citizens to present identification or face arrest because they belong to a certain ethnic group, how could it not be tyranny?

Precisely.
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Postby Imperium Neo Roma » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:33 am

Orlkjestad wrote:Sic semper tyrannis, this will eventually fail.

You should be ashamed, such a quote should not be labeled on this issue. Those are the words of Marcus Brutus, as he slayed Dictator Julius Caesar.

This? This is just America doing what it should do, cracking down on The Parasite Infection that is Illegal Immigration.
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Postby Caninope » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:34 am

Sorratsin wrote:
Caninope wrote:How is this tyranny?


Forcing citizens to present identification or face arrest because they belong to a certain ethnic group, how could it not be tyranny?

That's not how it works. It doesn't single out an ethnic group, and the person in question has to already be stopped. Coincidentally, I don't see why a driver license shouldn't work for proof of legal residency.
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Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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