Male reproductive rights?

[Old Koridai]

Well, technically, it is - from around 24 weeks onward.

It's called "viability".

Again difference in thought process. Here's a guide I believe in the bible.

And here we go. The bible is a book of (illustrative) stories in which you can draw your own morals if you like, but it's not a definite manual to live.

"The Bible is like a software license - Noone reads them, they just scroll down and click 'accept'"

[Shadow25]

on what basis?

my spiritual beliefs nothing scientific just something that that majority of the world believes(or claims to)in.

no in Islam it is a a person only after 120 days have passed after fertilization (that word sounds weird)

[DaWoad]

on what basis?

my spiritual beliefs nothing scientific just something that that majority of the world believes(or claims to)in.

the majority of the world? er . . .I don't think the majority of the world is christian.

[The Black Forrest]

Sure. However, a vasectomy is much easier on the male......

So? Maybe the male wants kids. If the woman doesn't want a kid, she can get tied up.

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

[Shikkago]

Give it up. I just tried the same thing. They'll just ignore you.

wait... you mean... religious people... not actually being interested in listening to other people's logical arguments? whaaa?

[The Parkus Empire]

my spiritual beliefs nothing scientific just something that that majority of the world believes(or claims to)in.

I base mine off of the fact that I one seed of pot counts as a full plant when they come to prosecute you.

That's a pretty crappy thing to base your beliefs about personhood on.

[Hathradic States]

I used to think like that, then I saw what happened to my friend. Besides, I am anti-abortion. Until most people here, I see life as existing from the momment of conception, and that life is a person.

Yeah, some people think the Earth is flat. Doesn't make it true.

Anyway, it sounds like your friend should have communicated with his girlfriend rather than assume she was gonna have the baby. I hear communication is a real aphrodisiac, and makes for wild and fun times in the bed place where they do the intercourse things.

Ignoring the trollish comments...all of them...

[Shadow25]

my spiritual beliefs nothing scientific just something that that majority of the world believes(or claims to)in.

the majority of the world? er . . .I don't think the majority of the world is christian.

yes as i said in Islam it is only after the first 120 days and i think in Judaism it is after 3 months (not sure though)

[Shuggy555]

aww i was ignored

[The Parkus Empire]

So? Maybe the male wants kids. If the woman doesn't want a kid, she can get tied up.

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

She might change her mind after impregnation.

[Shikkago]

So? Maybe the male wants kids. If the woman doesn't want a kid, she can get tied up.

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

I'm not so sure he's asking her if she even wants to do the act in the first place. Clearly what she wants to do with her body is not important to him. (JOKE! (i hope!))

[Hathradic States]

I base mine off of the fact that I one seed of pot counts as a full plant when they come to prosecute you.

That's a pretty crappy thing to base your beliefs about personhood on.

No crappier than any of the other million reasons to base stuff of off. At least mine has some legal presidence.

[Carnatoa]

Give it up. I just tried the same thing. They'll just ignore you.

wait... you mean... religious people... not actually being interested in listening to other people's logical arguments? whaaa?

Surprising, I know. That's the problem with religion: it exists outside of the realm of rationality, but people use it to make important decisions.

[The Black Forrest]

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

She might change her mind after impregnation.

Then he should be happy she wants to keep the child.....

[Geniasis]

Yeah, some people think the Earth is flat. Doesn't make it true.

Anyway, it sounds like your friend should have communicated with his girlfriend rather than assume she was gonna have the baby. I hear communication is a real aphrodisiac, and makes for wild and fun times in the bed place where they do the intercourse things.

Ignoring the trollish comments...all of them...

You're free to report me in Moderation if you actually think I'm trolling.

Of course, I'm not.

[Euronion]

you people seem to be forgeting something its just as much responsibility to a women to make sure theres condoms involved so for instanes if i got my girlfriend pregnant but i was overly drunk and she was sober its still my responsibility to remember to were protection when im barly standing or is it hers when shes completly sober and if i got her pregnant and later down the track she wanted to have a abortion but i wanted to keep the baby and i didn't want it to die, i have no say even though my gf was at fault and if she didn't want the child she should of worn protection.

and again what happens if i didn't want the child but she did then as i have no choise in the matter will be stuck supporting a child i didn't want for a minimum of 18 years

abortion should only happen with consent from BOTH parents...

totall agree, don;t you find it funny how women blame everything on men, one of the most common things I hear is, if men gave all the power to women there would be no wars, then I think about how many crazy bitches that are out there and I find that the person is wrong, there would still be war, just ask yourself, what would you rather be fighting for, Liberty, Freedom, Independence, Land, money, survival, or the newest pair of juicy Catore stuff, or Coach Purses or something like that. Personally I'd rather die for the first one rather than the second

[Shikkago]

wait... you mean... religious people... not actually being interested in listening to other people's logical arguments? whaaa?

Surprising, I know. That's the problem with religion: it exists outside of the realm of rationality, but people use it to make important decisions.

yea well some people choose the lazier option. Thinkin's HARD!

in all seriousness, tho, I have met Christians who were cool. So it's not impossible. Just takes a bit of courage and empathy.

[Hathradic States]

So? Maybe the male wants kids. If the woman doesn't want a kid, she can get tied up.

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

Why must the guy always ask the girl? Why the fuck can't she just be transparent and say it!?

[The Parkus Empire]

No crappier than any of the other million reasons to base stuff of off.

Uh, yeah. I base my beliefs off my conscience, not some nonsense about the law's feeling about weed.

At least mine has some legal presidence.

Not a fraction as much as mine, since the law sides with me on this specific argument.

[Shikkago]

you people seem to be forgeting something its just as much responsibility to a women to make sure theres condoms involved so for instanes if i got my girlfriend pregnant but i was overly drunk and she was sober its still my responsibility to remember to were protection when im barly standing or is it hers when shes completly sober and if i got her pregnant and later down the track she wanted to have a abortion but i wanted to keep the baby and i didn't want it to die, i have no say even though my gf was at fault and if she didn't want the child she should of worn protection.

and again what happens if i didn't want the child but she did then as i have no choise in the matter will be stuck supporting a child i didn't want for a minimum of 18 years

abortion should only happen with consent from BOTH parents...

totall agree, don;t you find it funny how women blame everything on men, one of the most common things I hear is, if men gave all the power to women there would be no wars, then I think about how many crazy bitches that are out there and I find that the person is wrong, there would still be war, just ask yourself, what would you rather be fighting for, Liberty, Freedom, Independence, Land, money, survival, or the newest pair of juicy Catore stuff, or Coach Purses or something like that. Personally I'd rather die for the first one rather than the second

oh, right. k. /thread.

would I get in trouble for calling you a sexist moron? cuz that's about the politest thing I can think of at the moment...

[Shadow25]

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

She might change her mind after impregnation.

hey women aren't allowed to do that, it is like how some people look to marriage she agrees, but then she can't quit (and sometime neither the man nor the woman can quit which is a major issue for Christians here)

[DaWoad]

you people seem to be forgeting something its just as much responsibility to a women to make sure theres condoms involved so for instanes if i got my girlfriend pregnant but i was overly drunk and she was sober its still my responsibility to remember to were protection when im barly standing or is it hers when shes completly sober and if i got her pregnant and later down the track she wanted to have a abortion but i wanted to keep the baby and i didn't want it to die, i have no say even though my gf was at fault and if she didn't want the child she should of worn protection.

and again what happens if i didn't want the child but she did then as i have no choise in the matter will be stuck supporting a child i didn't want for a minimum of 18 years

abortion should only happen with consent from BOTH parents...

totall agree, don;t you find it funny how women blame everything on men,

lmao
oh good lord *wipes tears from eyes*,
I haven't had quite that good a laugh in a very long time.

one of the most common things I hear is, if men gave all the power to women there would be no wars, then I think about how many crazy bitches that are out there and I find that the person is wrong, there would still be war, just ask yourself, what would you rather be fighting for, Liberty, Freedom, Independence, Land, money, survival, or the newest pair of juicy Catore stuff, or Coach Purses or something like that. Personally I'd rather die for the first one rather than the second

huh . . .maybe you were being serious. . . .no . . .you can't possibly be that sexist can you? wait. . .do you actually know any flesh and blood women?

[The Parkus Empire]

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

Why must the guy always ask the girl? Why the fuck can't she just be transparent and say it!?

Because you're the one demanding she keep it for nine months and then give very painful birth to it.

[The Kings Council]

there's the basic difference i believe it's a child even before it's born.

no one is saying a woman's menstration (chicken's egg) is a child nor something inanimate (silk) nor is anyone saying a plant is comparable in any way to a human.

[DaWoad]

Maybe you can ask her if she want's children before you do the act?

Why must the guy always ask the girl? Why the fuck can't she just be transparent and say it!?

er. . . . often, in my experience, women do. Though I'll admit to just a moment's panic the first time a girlfriend said "so, what would we do if I got pregnant?".