Male reproductive rights?

[Euronion]

I am male and after going around the forums on abortion one things keeps on arising, female reproductive rights, "no one should tell a woman what to do with her body" that is beside the point, this thread is about Male reproductive rights, do we have any? if your girlfriend/wife doesn't want a child, but say the boyfriend/husband does, what happens, if the cases were vise-versa, the female can choose to have the child without against the will of the father, but what about the situation changed around, does this give women the right to choose to kill the child against the will of the father as well? and if that is a yes, then what reproductive rights do we as males have?

[Hathradic States]

We have none. After all, what say should we have in our own offspring? We just did half of the work in creating them.

[The Parkus Empire]

We have none. After all, what say should we have in our own offspring? We just did half of the work in creating them.

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

[Euronion]

We have none. After all, what say should we have in our own offspring? We just did half of the work in creating them.

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I think he means that we donated half the chromosomes and that without males there would be neither males nor females

[Hathradic States]

We have none. After all, what say should we have in our own offspring? We just did half of the work in creating them.

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I said creating, not keeping alive until it can survive on its own. And, without males, their would be no birth.

[Arumdaum]

The fetus is in the woman's body, not the man's. So it should be the woman's choice whether she wants it or not, and not the man's.

[Kopawapatepolis]

We have none. After all, what say should we have in our own offspring? We just did half of the work in creating them.

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

Half the birth, although, I don't know how the switching out process works.

And then we give half of the mitochondrial DNA.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I think he means that we donated half the chromosomes and that without males there would be neither males nor females

Because ejaculation is equal to ~nine months of lugging a baby around.

[DaWoad]

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I think he means that we donated half the chromosomes and that without males there would be neither males nor females

not, technically, true. many species have no males and are technically entirely female. (in that they bear children)

[The Black Forrest]

We have none. After all, what say should we have in our own offspring? We just did half of the work in creating them.

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

Much better then what I was planning to write!

[Alien Space Bats]

If you're asking whether, as a man, you (or I) have the right to demand that a woman spend nine months of her life carrying our offspring to term and then risk their life giving birth at the end of that nine-month term, then I think the fairly obvious answer is "no".

[Hathradic States]

I think he means that we donated half the chromosomes and that without males there would be neither males nor females

Because ejaculation is equal to ~nine months of lugging a baby around.

Of course. Besides, a proper male has to deal with the female during those nine-months. And believe me, it is hell. I should know, I am going through it right now (and it isn't even my kid!)

[The Parkus Empire]

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I said creating, not keeping alive until it can survive on its own. And, without males, their would be no birth.

Um, the baby is being created for several months. You don't just ejaculate and BOOM there's a baby. The mother doesn't just "keep it alive".

[Sorratsin]

Don't know how to tell you this, but men don't have vaginas. I think your parents have some explaining to do.

[The Parkus Empire]

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

Half the birth, although, I don't know how the switching out process works.

And then we give half of the mitochondrial DNA.

That's not giving half the birth, that's giving half the process of impregnation.

[The Black Forrest]

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I said creating, not keeping alive until it can survive on its own. And, without males, their would be no birth.

Let's see one night of passion is the same as......not seeing it.

Your "donation" is expected but is hardly equal to what is placed on the woman......

[Hathradic States]

I said creating, not keeping alive until it can survive on its own. And, without males, their would be no birth.

Um, the baby is being created for several months. You don't just ejaculate and BOOM there's a baby. The mother doesn't just "keep it alive".

I am no idiot, Parkus. I know that. However, the life itself is creating upon conception. After which we have the process of the baby forming, and then birth.

[DaWoad]

We carry the fetuses in our wombs for four-and-a-half months and gave half birth?

I said creating, not keeping alive until it can survive on its own. And, without males, their would be no birth.

never heard of hermaphroditic species? or asexual ones?

[The Parkus Empire]

Because ejaculation is equal to ~nine months of lugging a baby around.

Of course. Besides, a proper male has to deal with the female during those nine-months. And believe me, it is hell. I should know, I am going through it right now (and it isn't even my kid!)

The only pregnant women I've known of were pretty fucking cool when they were pregnant. Your misogynistic silliness about how much of bitch this women you know is does nothing to support your argument.

[Hathradic States]

I said creating, not keeping alive until it can survive on its own. And, without males, their would be no birth.

Let's see one night of passion is the same as......not seeing it.

Your "donation" is expected but is hardly equal to what is placed on the woman......

We are needed, point there is obvious.

However, does carrying the baby for nine months give the woman any more right to it that the man? After all, it is the product of both persons.

[Lumpdom]

If you'd like you can get a vasectomy leaving you unable to reproduce. There are women willing to carry a child for you for a fee if you'd like to reproduce. So, basically, yes. You can make the choice to have a child or to not have a child.

If you are asking if men have any say in what a woman does with her body, then no, nor should they. You would be forcing someone to do something against their will.

[DaWoad]

Um, the baby is being created for several months. You don't just ejaculate and BOOM there's a baby. The mother doesn't just "keep it alive".

I am no idiot, Parkus. I know that. However, the life itself is creating upon conception. After which we have the process of the baby forming, and then birth.

but how is baby formed?!?

I digress,
1- we don't "do half the work" we do significantly less than that. All the male "gives" is half the dna. The mother gives all the mitochondrial DNA, the cell and half the DNA. if you wanna give the male the (call it) 30% say due to donation about 30% of the stuff, go for it.

[DaWoad]

Let's see one night of passion is the same as......not seeing it.

Your "donation" is expected but is hardly equal to what is placed on the woman......

We are needed, point there is obvious.

we're really not.

However, does carrying the baby for nine months give the woman any more right to it that the man? After all, it is the product of both persons.

yes. it does.

[The Parkus Empire]

Um, the baby is being created for several months. You don't just ejaculate and BOOM there's a baby. The mother doesn't just "keep it alive".

I am no idiot, Parkus. I know that. However, the life itself is creating upon conception. After which we have the process of the baby forming, and then birth.

Baby forming is the longest and most burdensome part of the creation process, and that's really what we're talking about, isn't it (unless this is a thread on the right of a man not to be raped)?

[Euronion]

If you're asking whether, as a man, you (or I) have the right to demand that a woman spend nine months of her life carrying our offspring to term and then risk their life giving birth at the end of that nine-month term, then I think the fairly obvious answer is "no".

so your basically saying that if I get my girlfirend pregnant, I pay for everything, I support her, I want to have a child, she can just say, I want to kill the baby because I want a baby when I want it, sounds more like a stuborn child herself, if it is your son that is going to be murdered because your girlfriend just didn't feel like itm it is somehow correct, I can understand taking this to court and then judging whether the father is prepared to take care of the child if the mother refuses, but this puts the woman in absolute power, and in absolute power of your reprofuction, meaning, you cannot have a child until the woman wants you to, and if you can't. too bad bub looks like your family which has survived evolution for millions of years, that survived the Black Plague, that has lasted for generations, is going to die out because the woman did not feel like it