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Are you Atheist? or Theist?

Atheist
274
49%
Agnostic
87
16%
Theist- Christian
138
25%
Theist- Muslim
8
1%
Theist- Buddhist
4
1%
Theist- Wicca
5
1%
Theist- Hindu
3
1%
Theist- Other, please post what specifically thank you.
38
7%
 
Total votes : 557

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Fennonistan
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Postby Fennonistan » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:12 pm

Well, I'm B.A.D: Buddhist Atheist Darwinist :D

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Postby Prometheos » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:13 pm

No option for Jews? Halp! Discrimination!
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
:evil: Why do (Usually American) people keep spelling qur'an wrong? Are they dyslexic? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a Q not a K?

Who do people keep spelling القرآن‎ wrong? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a ا not a Q?


القرآن‎ is Arabic not English!

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Norte Rico
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Jewish

Postby Norte Rico » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:13 pm

Jewish--Now that all you nazi bastards know this, it is time to make a preemptive nuclear strike.

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Flat Beats
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Postby Flat Beats » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:14 pm

Norstal wrote:
Flat Beats wrote:Catholic, 'cause we have such a deep theology, and the general media is out to get us. So many lies are being taught about us (not just in the classroom, but also pop culture). I am faithful because I believe it is illogical to be otherwise, we have theology to answer some of the questions like the question of Evil etc.
I use this comparison a lot;
If you're right, and I am still faithful, then in the end it doesn't matter anyways, 'cause there's nothing for all eternity and what happened in my life wouldn't matter anyways. BUT, I led a peaceful and joy-filled life and probably made the world a better place.
If you're right, and I am not faithful, then in the end it wouldn't matter yadda yadda same as above. BUT, I led an 'exciting' life... but then again I have some... disadvantages (Family Research Council, personal experience, and other psychological research)
If I'm right, and I am faithful, it's all good.
If I'm right, and I am not faithful, it's just like, 'oh crap i'm screwed.'

This is just my opinion.

So I'm screwed because I deconverted from Catholics? What? Are the nuns going to beat me with a meter stick or something?

What? I don't even... (nuns are generally really nice people, put your prejudice aside.)
Why is your argument just a shameful attempt at bashing me and my religion? (it worked however, as I know not how to respond)
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:15 pm

Norstal wrote:Now now Koku-chan, this is how it goes:

If Bluth is in thread then mention Christians have no god.

If Bluth is not in thread, then mention Christians have a god.

It's the only way to appease him. ;)


Isn't the -chan honorific meant to be used on girls? Koku-kun would be fine. LOL

Next time I'll remember, however, your advice.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:15 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Who do people keep spelling القرآن‎ wrong? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a ا not a Q?


القرآن‎ is Arabic not English!


True, that's not English. Yet.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:15 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Who do people keep spelling القرآن‎ wrong? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a ا not a Q?


القرآن‎ is Arabic not English!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran

An annotated wiki source (so you can't claim "BUT THAT'S WIKIPEDIA!") says you're partly wrong about the spelling of Quaran.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:17 pm

Flat Beats wrote:
Norstal wrote:So I'm screwed because I deconverted from Catholics? What? Are the nuns going to beat me with a meter stick or something?

What? I don't even... (nuns are generally really nice people, put your prejudice aside.)
Why is your argument just a shameful attempt at bashing me? (it worked however, as I know not how to respond)

It's ok, I didn't understand sarcasm when I was a Catholic too.

My point: Pascal's Wager fails. For all you know, you're actually worshiping the "bad guys", since there are so many possibilities in it. In other words, if I'm a good person and doesn't believe in any god, I could just go "oh, well."
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:17 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Who do people keep spelling القرآن‎ wrong? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a ا not a Q?


القرآن‎ is Arabic not English!

It's an Arabic word, the right way to spell it is obviously in Arabic text.

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Ahrakahl
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Postby Ahrakahl » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:19 pm

I'm an atheists, but Islam is kind of awesome.

Insha'allah!

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Flat Beats
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Postby Flat Beats » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:20 pm

Norstal wrote:
Flat Beats wrote:What? I don't even... (nuns are generally really nice people, put your prejudice aside.)
Why is your argument just a shameful attempt at bashing me? (it worked however, as I know not how to respond)

It's ok, I didn't understand sarcasm when I was a Catholic too.

My point: Pascal's Wager fails. For all you know, you're actually worshiping the "bad guys", since there are so many possibilities in it. In other words, if I'm a good person and doesn't believe in any god, I could just go "oh, well."

Well if that's the way the cookie crumbles, oh well, I took that good chance.
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:29 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:(Image)

Bluth Corporation wrote:I am.


Denial.

They don't.


Denial.

I am aware of no Christian who believes in a god, nor am I aware of any way to reconcile Christian teachings with belief in a god.

Actual Jesus, or the corruption of Jesus that the authors of the Gospels invented to justify their cult of the divinity of his person because they could not recognize the divinity of his teachings?


The evidence suggests it was actual Jesus. After all, that's why he got crucified.

Are you sure he was crucified? If he was, are you sure the reason for the crucifixion was exactly what the authors of the Gospels portrayed it to be? Furthermore, even if Jesus believed in a god (which he almost certainly did not), is that relevant? If Jesus thought apples were better than oranges, does that mean that to be a Christian one must follow that preference?

You're assuming that if something is divine, then it is a god in the Abrahamic sense. That is simply not a valid assumption, at all.


Is there any other way you can define "divine"?

I did already. You've been addressing it for some time now. Yes, the Abrahamic god--if it existed--would meet that description. But you are making a wholly unwarranted assumption that, therefore, everything that meets that description necessarily is a god.

I'm attacking your argument because I believe your argument to be flawed. I have explained, to you as well as others, what Christianity means repeatedly in this thread and the other one. Everything I've already said on the topic doesn't just go out the window because it's a different subject or a few days later.


And yet you've still said nothing.

Sure I have, several times.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:45 pm

Flat Beats wrote:
Norstal wrote:It's ok, I didn't understand sarcasm when I was a Catholic too.

My point: Pascal's Wager fails. For all you know, you're actually worshiping the "bad guys", since there are so many possibilities in it. In other words, if I'm a good person and doesn't believe in any god, I could just go "oh, well."

Well if that's the way the cookie crumbles, oh well, I took that good chance.

You took one of many equally bad chances, actually.

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:47 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
:evil: Why do (Usually American) people keep spelling qur'an wrong? Are they dyslexic? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a Q not a K?

Who do people keep spelling القرآن‎ wrong? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a ا not a Q?

Iffy, that's the "a," not the "q." :p
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:51 pm

Ahrakahl wrote:I'm an atheists, but Islam is kind of awesome.

Insha'allah!

I'm pretty sure God would will Islam to be awesome, yeah, considering He'd be sort of the guiding force behind it... :blink:
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Clever, but your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
Keronians wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

I accuse your precious law class of statutory rape.

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Postby Shikkago » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:54 pm

Atheist & skeptic. I base my beliefs on empathy, evidence, and logic.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:02 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Who do people keep spelling القرآن‎ wrong? How hard is it to remember that it's spelled with a ا not a Q?

Iffy, that's the "a," not the "q." :p

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Postby Hydesland » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:03 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:How so?


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=NLT;

This is pretty core to Christianity. You can't accept this statement if you don't believe in God.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:07 pm

Hydesland wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:How so?


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=NLT;

This is pretty core to Christianity. You can't accept this statement if you don't believe in God.


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Postby Bluth Corporation » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:08 pm

Hydesland wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:How so?


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=NLT;

This is pretty core to Christianity.


It's really not. In fact, it's antithetical to Christianity.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:10 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=NLT;

This is pretty core to Christianity.


It's really not. In fact, it's antithetical to Christianity.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this interesting opinion of yours? How exactly, is the New Testament antithetical to Christianity? Instead of giving purposefully vague statements to attract attention, you could explain your position and enlighten us all.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:Clever, but your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

I accuse your precious law class of statutory rape.

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Postby Hydesland » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:12 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=NLT;

This is pretty core to Christianity.


It's really not. In fact, it's antithetical to Christianity.


So Christ is not a Christian?

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:12 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:How exactly, is the New Testament antithetical to Christianity?

It's not. Just the epistles, and the parts of the Gospels that were invented by the founders of the cult of Jesus and Jehovah to help perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person because they did not recognize the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings.

Instead of giving purposefully vague statements to attract attention, you could explain your position and enlighten us all.


I did, earlier in this thread. I even linked to this exact same post a few posts above..
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:13 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:Perhaps you could elaborate on this interesting opinion of yours? How exactly, is the New Testament antithetical to Christianity? Instead of giving purposefully vague statements to attract attention, you could explain your position and enlighten us all.


Good luck with that. I've been trying to do that for weeks now.

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