How many of you are Atheists? What about Theists?

[Ceannairceach]

He's rather tolerant and accepting, from, as I said, observation. And, being the character in question, I think I can say with utmost certainty that he's quite like the figure he seeks to emulate.

Well I do not know Bluth as well as you do then, but all in all I'm just referring to him outright saying there are only a few thousand christians, that all of them do not believe in a god and that those who do are not real christians

I mean...am I missing something here?

Well, you are probably missing the No True Scotsman argument, but that's about it. And even that is common among all branches of Christianity.

[Hallistar]

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

Do you know what a Christian is?

A Christian is someone who recognizes the divinity of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, which we should embrace not because Jesus is the supposed son of god (he can't be, since there is no god) but because we know deep within ourselves that those teachings are true and the best way to live among others. We revere Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, because he was the originator of the tradition in which we came to know those teachings. Those who have come to those teachings through other traditions should rightly revere the respective founders of those traditions for the same reason.

There is another group of people, the cult of Jesus and Jehovah, who fail to see the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings and so felt compelled to invent the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person. Those people are responsible for the fabrications, falsifications, and corruptions such as the miracles, the resurrection, virgin birth, etc. that one finds in the New Testament, as well as the establishment of the communities known as the Churches.

I'm going to have to throw out the whole typical enchelada of asking sources for all of these things, I know you might feel this way but I know for a fact that alot of people here consider themselves christian yet they all believe in god (Is that not what christianity is often associated with?) and I'm pretty sure they're going to have some (alot) disagreements with you stating that they follow a cult of jesus for his divinity rather than the supposed truth

I personally for the record though am neutral on things/accepting that I do not know what will happen after I die

[Cheztope]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

This is exactly why the United States of America sucks. You were manipulated ever since you were a little kid by a generation that lacked the scientific understanding that we have today. Maybe if you were a little more open-minded you'd be more tolerable towards others instead of thinking that they are going to hell and they aren't worth anything.

[Norstal]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

This is exactly why the United States of America sucks. You were manipulated ever since you were a little kid by a generation that lacked the scientific understanding that we have today. Maybe if you were a little more open-minded you'd be more tolerable towards others instead of thinking that they are going to hell and they aren't worth anything.

Well, being a deist isn't bad. Organized religion is.

[Bluth Corporation]

Maybe if you were a little more open-minded you'd be more tolerable towards others instead of thinking that they are going to hell and they aren't worth anything.

Why do you assume he believes that is the case when he has said nothing to that effect?

[Underium]

Holy cow, I thought Atheists were supposed to be a minority...

[Ceannairceach]

Holy cow, I thought Atheists were supposed to be a minority...

NS is amazingly liberal, and you must also factor in the population of Atheist-identifying Buddhists.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Who's the other Hindu?

[Trotskylvania]

I do not understand this arguement

If athiesm is defined somewhat as: "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]"

Then how does being a christian, who believes in a god, have an athiestic part?

Your assumption is false. A Christian does not believe in a god. Christianity explicitly rejects the notion of a god.

I admit, this one is new to me. Elaborate, please.

[Underium]

Holy cow, I thought Atheists were supposed to be a minority...

NS is amazingly liberal, and you must also factor in the population of Atheist-identifying Buddhists.

Ya it is... It's also one of the few places where I have found that you can have a intelligent conversation with someone that wont use a huge number of fallacies its a great place, NSG.

[Hathradic States]

Theist, I will admit that much. I refuse to believe that life has no point or purpose being here, which is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from an atheist point of view.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Theist, I will admit that much. I refuse to believe that life has no point or purpose being here, which is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from an atheist point of view.

^-^ Life is pointless until you make your own purpose. /myview

[Norstal]

Theist, I will admit that much. I refuse to believe that life has no point or purpose being here, which is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from an atheist point of view.

Your logic is flawed and insulting then.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Theist, I will admit that much. I refuse to believe that life has no point or purpose being here, which is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from an atheist point of view.

Doesn't have to be. Buddhists get along fine.

[Hathradic States]

Theist, I will admit that much. I refuse to believe that life has no point or purpose being here, which is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from an atheist point of view.

Your logic is flawed and insulting then.

Not from my perspective. If we came into being by chance, without anything spurring the creation, then what purpose could we truly have?

[Furious Grandmothers]

This thread is so eye-opening. Have learned quite a lot about the beliefs of others.

But I can't keep it inside me anymore. The poll options are really terrible. So few options, leaving out major religions such as Judaism as someone said. And you call Buddhists theists.

Lastly, forcing people to choose between agnosticism and atheism/theism when a person can easily be both. Such as myself, an agnostic theist. I ended up choosing agnostic as I believe we can never conclusively prove or disprove the existence of a higher being. Have experimented with many religions in my teenage years and logic tells me thus far that a supernatural being does not exist, which would be an atheist stand. Yet I still hope that there is actually a guiding hand out there, considering how impossibly lucky I have been in my life. To paraphrase Discworld, for me, million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.

Conclusion: I am an agnostic theist. Who will probably be unable to believe in any of the organized religions out there, though. And improve the poll, please (is it editable by the OP?)

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Your logic is flawed and insulting then.

Not from my perspective. If we came into being by chance, without anything spurring the creation, then what purpose could we truly have?

To make your own. :3

Life is like an etch-a-sketch. It can sit there and collect dust, useless and unused. ;] Or, in the right hands, it can become a masterpiece. All up to the individual...:3

[Intangelon]

I'm an Acrostic. The whole thing puzzles me.

[Greater Rhodes]

I'm an Agnostic Deist. I'm not sure if agnosticism is quite a view in of itself, one must either be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist of some sort.

[Norstal]

Your logic is flawed and insulting then.

Not from my perspective. If we came into being by chance, without anything spurring the creation, then what purpose could we truly have?

You don't have free will or something? You let someone else create your purpose for you? How unimaginative. I, however, create my own purpose in life.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Your logic is flawed and insulting then.

Not from my perspective. If we came into being by chance, without anything spurring the creation, then what purpose could we truly have?

The one we make.

[Sungai Pusat]

Atheist.

[Metanih]

Huh... Theist for sure, but none of the above. Wicca seems appealing and matches what i believe in but haven't tried it yet. There is a god, somewhere, and i have no clue how to define her/him/none of the above/both of the above.

[Hathradic States]

Not from my perspective. If we came into being by chance, without anything spurring the creation, then what purpose could we truly have?

You don't have free will or something? You let someone else create your purpose for you? How unimaginative. I, however, create my own purpose in life.

How do you justify your purpose, then? By your morals? Without divine presence, how do you justify your morals? Without the existance of a supreme being, such things cannot truly exist.

[Hallistar]

Your logic is flawed and insulting then.

Not from my perspective. If we came into being by chance, without anything spurring the creation, then what purpose could we truly have?

Lifes a bitch, who knows what its intended for in the end truly, now grab a beer and lets all have a toast and forget about those troubles

*hands you all a beer*