How many of you are Atheists? What about Theists?

[Ceannairceach]

Christopaganism.

That... Sounds odd.

Your assumption is false. A Christian does not believe in a god. Christianity explicitly rejects the notion of a god.

I'd love to see where Jesus rejected the notion of a God.

[Hallistar]

I do not understand this arguement

If athiesm is defined somewhat as: "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]"

Then how does being a christian, who believes in a god, have an athiestic part?

Bluth believes that a Christian only follows the teachings of Jesus and nothing more, and that Jesus wasn't the son of any god or the messiah of anything but a teacher only, and that everyone else is part of some Cult of Jesus or some such thing.

Funny, he thinks that because of what he believes involves only jesus, it applies to all christians..

[The Parkus Empire]

I'd love to see where Jesus rejected the notion of a God.

He did go into whiny Mark Hamil mode on the cross.

[Bluth Corporation]

Your assumption is false. A Christian does not believe in a god. Christianity explicitly rejects the notion of a god.

What about all of that holy son holy ghost spirit holy father stuff?

What about it? What relevance does it have to Christianity?

[Hallistar]

What about all of that holy son holy ghost spirit holy father stuff?

What about it? What relevance does it have to Christianity?

Uhhhhhhhhh

Have you talked to many christians these days?

[Ceannairceach]

I'd love to see where Jesus rejected the notion of a God.

He did go into whiny Mark Hamil mode on the cross.

True, I suppose.

Though I must say, the other crucified people with him are my favorite characters in the Bible.

[Bluth Corporation]

What about it? What relevance does it have to Christianity?

Uhhhhhhhhh

Have you talked to many christians these days?

There aren't exactly a lot of us.

[WiiPlayer]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

[Hallistar]

Uhhhhhhhhh

Have you talked to many christians these days?

There aren't exactly a lot of us.

you're right, the average amount of 2 billion christians isn't alot..funny that

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

that's what I said.

Now I am an Atheist. ;]

[Bluth Corporation]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

Then you're not a Christian. A Christian necessarily does not believe in a god.

[Ceannairceach]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

Eh, I assume its often a two way street; Don't expect to be able to force people to adhere to what you happen to believe is moral and right.

[Bluth Corporation]

There aren't exactly a lot of us.

you're right, the average amount of 2 billion christians isn't alot..funny that

Err, there's nowhere near that number. Maybe a couple thousand.

[Hallistar]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

Then you're not a Christian. A Christian necessarily does not believe in a god.

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

[Hallistar]

you're right, the average amount of 2 billion christians isn't alot..funny that

Err, there's nowhere near that number. Maybe a couple thousand.

Are you drinking something I need to know about?

[Ceannairceach]

Then you're not a Christian. A Christian necessarily does not believe in a god.

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

Eh, from personal observation, Bluth does seem more Christ-like than some of the more... Vocal, lets say, Christians on the board.

[Big Jim P]

Christian. I was raised as a Christian. No one will ever be able to convince me that God does not exist.

Then you're not a Christian. A Christian necessarily does not believe in a god.

Really now?

[Hallistar]

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

Eh, from personal observation, Bluth does seem more Christ-like than some of the more... Vocal, lets say, Christians on the board.

One person does come to mind now that you mention that, although bluth did not mention his more inner views though

[Big Jim P]

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

Eh, from personal observation, Bluth does seem more Christ-like than some of the more... Vocal, lets say, Christians on the board.

So am I, so I don't think that is a very strong commendation.

[Ceannairceach]

Eh, from personal observation, Bluth does seem more Christ-like than some of the more... Vocal, lets say, Christians on the board.

One person does come to mind now that you mention that, although bluth did not mention his more inner views though

He's rather tolerant and accepting, from, as I said, observation. And, being the character in question, I think I can say with utmost certainty that he's quite like the figure he seeks to emulate.

[Ceannairceach]

Eh, from personal observation, Bluth does seem more Christ-like than some of the more... Vocal, lets say, Christians on the board.

So am I, so I don't think that is a very strong commendation.

Its a rather good one, even if it doesn't mean much. As I recall, "Christ-like" figures are quite good people in literature, all around good people who somehow don't break in to the Mary Sue category.

[Bluth Corporation]

Then you're not a Christian. A Christian necessarily does not believe in a god.

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

Do you know what a Christian is?

A Christian is someone who recognizes the divinity of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, which we should embrace not because Jesus is the supposed son of god (he can't be, since there is no god) but because we know deep within ourselves that those teachings are true and the best way to live among others. We revere Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, because he was the originator of the tradition in which we came to know those teachings. Those who have come to those teachings through other traditions should rightly revere the respective founders of those traditions for the same reason.

There is another group of people, the cult of Jesus and Jehovah, who fail to see the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings and so felt compelled to invent the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person. Those people are responsible for the fabrications, falsifications, and corruptions such as the miracles, the resurrection, virgin birth, etc. that one finds in the New Testament, as well as the establishment of the communities known as the Churches.

[Hallistar]

One person does come to mind now that you mention that, although bluth did not mention his more inner views though

He's rather tolerant and accepting, from, as I said, observation. And, being the character in question, I think I can say with utmost certainty that he's quite like the figure he seeks to emulate.

Well I do not know Bluth as well as you do then, but all in all I'm just referring to him outright saying there are only a few thousand christians, that all of them do not believe in a god and that those who do are not real christians

I mean...am I missing something here?

[Ortizion]

I'm Roman Catholic. THough, I hear there is another religion with everything Roman Catholicism has, but without the corruption.

[Big Jim P]

So basically some cultist know it all has the power to dictate who is and is not a christian based on his version of the truth?

Do you know what a Christian is?

A Christian is someone who recognizes the divinity of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, which we should embrace not because Jesus is the supposed son of god (he can't be, since there is no god) but because we know deep within ourselves that those teachings are true and the best way to live among others. We revere Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, because he was the originator of the tradition in which we came to know those teachings. Those who have come to those teachings through other traditions should rightly revere the respective founders of those traditions for the same reason.

There is another group of people, the cult of Jesus and Jehovah, who fail to see the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings and so felt compelled to invent the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person. Those people are responsible for the fabrications, falsifications, and corruptions such as the miracles, the resurrection, virgin birth, etc. that one finds in the New Testament, as well as the establishment of the communities known as the Churches.

I was prepared to call BS, but your explanation makes a hell of a lot of sense.