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How many of you are Atheists? What about Theists?

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Are you Atheist? or Theist?

Atheist
274
49%
Agnostic
87
16%
Theist- Christian
138
25%
Theist- Muslim
8
1%
Theist- Buddhist
4
1%
Theist- Wicca
5
1%
Theist- Hindu
3
1%
Theist- Other, please post what specifically thank you.
38
7%
 
Total votes : 557

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Free Soviets
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Postby Free Soviets » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:40 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Naurobia wrote:I am a christian and I have studied religion and philosophy for 5 years. After doing a lot of consideration out of all them I realized that christianity was the most logical option there was.

I know people who have studied islam for so many years and they concluded the exact same thing

and utterly inexplicably, people almost always seem to find that the religion they grew up with is the 'most logical option'. funny, that...

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:41 pm

Norstal wrote:
Hallistar wrote:
I know people who have studied islam for so many years and they concluded the exact same thing,

There will always be that self internal bias, you must admit

I think such a study would need to be based by an absolutely non biased government using a massive supercomputer database compiling every single peice of information from every single religious book, speaker and organization, comparing them and listing discrepancies, then leaving that up for debate

Wouldn't that break the ALU of the computer? I mean, it has to contain so much illogical things in it. :P

Only you'd say that.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:43 pm

I'm an atheist, but people describe me as the worst one ever. I see value in almost all faiths.
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Postby Hallistar » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:45 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Hallistar wrote:I know people who have studied islam for so many years and they concluded the exact same thing

and utterly inexplicably, people almost always seem to find that the religion they grew up with is the 'most logical option'. funny, that...


^If I could agree with this a million times I would, I personally grew up in a religion and my parents, my dad being an intellectual and supposedly questioning things, my mom just being someone who did not really question these things, both thought it was the most logical, and as such that feeling passed on to me..My dad is for the most part 'secular' but he like everyone else still had that subconcious core faith that if you take away would lead to a large gaping hole

The day when I realized my religion might not be right at all... :blink:

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Postby Vladovaskia » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:45 pm

Zen Buddhist, and Buddhism isn't theist. There is no god in it.
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Postby Hallistar » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:47 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Norstal wrote:Wouldn't that break the ALU of the computer? I mean, it has to contain so much illogical things in it. :P

Only you'd say that.


Lol Norstal I suppose it might, but there will be some concrete things that will be found in a universal pattern that might one day be able to be hammered out and fashioned into some kind of part of a greater understanding of things that we humans might all accept..as for Nightkill I'm not sure what you mean lol

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Postby Xenami » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:59 pm

My deity is energy, so I'm a pantheist, but I add more occult-like features thereafter, but it's all so vague.

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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:08 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Hallistar wrote:I know people who have studied islam for so many years and they concluded the exact same thing

and utterly inexplicably, people almost always seem to find that the religion they grew up with is the 'most logical option'. funny, that...


Almost always. Some of us come to different conclusions. ;)
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:15 pm

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Gone, poof, your chemical bonds disassemble and you cte. :D The best way...

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Postby Zemle lyudyei » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:18 pm

I belive in neo-confucianism and traditional chinese beliefs like ancestor worship
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:20 pm

Eh, I toe the line between apathetic atheist and apathetic agnostic recently.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:21 pm

Zemle lyudyei wrote:I belive in neo-confucianism and traditional chinese beliefs like ancestor worship

Which is odd, because as I recall from schooling, ancestor worship wasn't a true part of traditional Chinese belief, but a misconstrued respect for passed elders. Was my schooling wrong?

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Postby Siorafrica » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:21 pm

Zhou Renmin Pingdang wrote:Atheist. Sorry, I am a thinking human being. No other path of thought makes sense.


Funny,that's why I'm a Catholic. It annoys me that various groups think they have a monopoly on truth and/or love. We're all human dang it,jacks of all trades whose success depends upon whether we co-operate or divide.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:22 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Under the earth, more likely.

Once, when a well-known composer had died, William S. Gilbert was at a gathering when someone asked after the departed musician. "What is he doing now?" they asked. And an eager young person exclaimed, "Composing, surely!" To which Gilbert answered, "No, decomposing."

I never get straight lines like that.

I want to be burned. I can't stomach the thought of rotting.


After being salvaged for any useful organs, my remains are to be cremated and have my ashes spread over the ocean in the following order of preference: Gulf of Mexico, Pacific, Atlantic.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:23 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Zeth Rekia wrote:Zeno's a hardcore atheist that believes in god.


zeno is so complicatedconfused.


Fixed it for ya. ;)
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:25 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:I want to be burned. I can't stomach the thought of rotting.


After being salvaged for any useful organs, my remains are to be cremated and have my ashes spread over the ocean in the following order of preference: Gulf of Mexico, Pacific, Atlantic.

I want my organs harvested and my body disposed of in the nearest waste bin. :meh: Not complicated or expensive at all...

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:26 pm

Hydesland wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:I'm a Christian; therefore, I'm an atheist.


You've confused the word 'therefore' with the term 'yet paradoxically'.


No; being an atheist is an inherent, necessary, and unavoidable part of being a Christian. Therefore, all Christians are atheists.
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Postby Zhugyu » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:26 pm

Underium wrote:A simple question, how many of you are Atheists. What about Theists?
Just say if you are Atheist, and why? Also if your Theist please say so and why, also if you would not mind listing your religion it would be great.

I opened this thread out of plain curiosity, personally I am a Theist, who worships the Greek goddess Hecate.


I am a Buddhist non-theist - not sure why "Buddhist theist" is an option, since Buddhist aren't really 'theists' in the Western sense of the term.

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Postby Hallistar » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:30 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
You've confused the word 'therefore' with the term 'yet paradoxically'.


No; being an atheist is an inherent, necessary, and unavoidable part of being a Christian. Therefore, all Christians are atheists.


I do not understand this arguement

If athiesm is defined somewhat as: "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]"

Then how does being a christian, who believes in a god, have an athiestic part?

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Postby Ferenczia » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:31 pm

Atheist, but I'm living with a Buddhist-agnostic type, and I've come to enjoy meditating and chanting and such

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Postby Catholic Pagan Golfers » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:33 pm

Christopaganism.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:34 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
No; being an atheist is an inherent, necessary, and unavoidable part of being a Christian. Therefore, all Christians are atheists.


I do not understand this arguement

If athiesm is defined somewhat as: "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]"

Then how does being a christian, who believes in a god, have an athiestic part?

Bluth believes that a Christian only follows the teachings of Jesus and nothing more, and that Jesus wasn't the son of any god or the messiah of anything but a teacher only, and that everyone else is part of some Cult of Jesus or some such thing.

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:34 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
No; being an atheist is an inherent, necessary, and unavoidable part of being a Christian. Therefore, all Christians are atheists.


I do not understand this arguement

If athiesm is defined somewhat as: "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]"

Then how does being a christian, who believes in a god, have an athiestic part?


Your assumption is false. A Christian does not believe in a god. Christianity explicitly rejects the notion of a god.
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Postby Jugs of Unicorns » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:34 pm

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Postby Hallistar » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:35 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
Hallistar wrote:
I do not understand this arguement

If athiesm is defined somewhat as: "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]"

Then how does being a christian, who believes in a god, have an athiestic part?


Your assumption is false. A Christian does not believe in a god. Christianity explicitly rejects the notion of a god.


:blink: What about all of that holy son holy ghost spirit holy father stuff?

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