How many of you are Atheists? What about Theists?

[Patriqvinia]

I'm an atheist because it is perfectly rational and logical to be so.

You find it logical that life spontaneously formed?

If you look hard enough, you can find logical flaws in either the explanation that life formed spontaneously or was consciously created (maybe the Stewie Griffon method? ). More research must be conducted before a decision can be made with 100% certainty.

[Valtieres]

Particles of matter that bonded over time into macro-organic molecules. Hurp.

Then we get into the debate about how were those particles formed

Screw it, how any part of this universe came to be formed, how the concept of anything existed before anything, but even though one could say god made it all

Where did that god come from?

That right there is the answer that will never be solved with empirical proof and not just via some religious book, the question of how did anything come to exist, was it always existing, who said it had to exist, but then there has to be something over nothing because there will alwa

I'm going to get a brain hemorrage if I think about this question that is not designed for humans to answer

Heathen fools. Cookies created us. They are the master species. Heil!

[Samuraikoku]

[Numbers aren't everything. We have better sex.

I am an exception...

[Farnhamia]

here is a question for those who wish to answer it: What do you think will happen to you after you die?

I believe I will either be in another plane of existence or I will come back to earth.

Under the earth, more likely.

Once, when a well-known composer had died, William S. Gilbert was at a gathering when someone asked after the departed musician. "What is he doing now?" they asked. And an eager young person exclaimed, "Composing, surely!" To which Gilbert answered, "No, decomposing."

I never get straight lines like that.

[Farnhamia]

[Numbers aren't everything. We have better sex.

I am an exception...

There is time yet, young one.

[Valtieres]

I believe I will either be in another plane of existence or I will come back to earth.

Under the earth, more likely.

Once, when a well-known composer had died, William S. Gilbert was at a gathering when someone asked after the departed musician. "What is he doing now?" they asked. And an eager young person exclaimed, "Composing, surely!" To which Gilbert answered, "No, decomposing."

I never get straight lines like that.

Brilliant. I applaud your awesomeness.

[Ashmoria]

Zeno's a hardcore atheist that believes in god.

zeno is so complicated.

[UCUMAY]

I believe I will either be in another plane of existence or I will come back to earth.

Under the earth, more likely.

Once, when a well-known composer had died, William S. Gilbert was at a gathering when someone asked after the departed musician. "What is he doing now?" they asked. And an eager young person exclaimed, "Composing, surely!" To which Gilbert answered, "No, decomposing."

I never get straight lines like that.

I want to be burned. I can't stomach the thought of rotting.

[Norstal]

Well, what are you waiting for? REMOND HIM! Or you can always take the Remond Sum.

I prefer dim sum. I can't remember what he was going to look up, either. Maybe the number of the beast? It was so long ago.

Nooo, my math joke. You have shattered it to n pieces.

I believe it was what happens after we die. But of course, when it comes to the afterlife, atheists have a greater imagination than Christians or other theists.

[UCUMAY]

Under the earth, more likely.

Once, when a well-known composer had died, William S. Gilbert was at a gathering when someone asked after the departed musician. "What is he doing now?" they asked. And an eager young person exclaimed, "Composing, surely!" To which Gilbert answered, "No, decomposing."

I never get straight lines like that.

Brilliant. I applaud your awesomeness.

[Patriqvinia]

I prefer dim sum. I can't remember what he was going to look up, either. Maybe the number of the beast? It was so long ago.

Nooo, my math joke. You have shattered it to n pieces.

I believe it was what happens after we die. But of course, when it comes to the afterlife, atheists have a greater imagination than Christians or other theists.

You've never spoken to a 'New Ager' have you?

[Farnhamia]

I prefer dim sum. I can't remember what he was going to look up, either. Maybe the number of the beast? It was so long ago.

Nooo, my math joke. You have shattered it to n pieces.

I believe it was what happens after we die. But of course, when it comes to the afterlife, atheists have a greater imagination than Christians or other theists.

The glue was not very well applied, it shattered easily.

[Hallistar]

Then we get into the debate about how were those particles formed

Screw it, how any part of this universe came to be formed, how the concept of anything existed before anything, but even though one could say god made it all

Where did that god come from?

That right there is the answer that will never be solved with empirical proof and not just via some religious book, the question of how did anything come to exist, was it always existing, who said it had to exist, but then there has to be something over nothing because there will alwa

I'm going to get a brain hemorrage if I think about this question that is not designed for humans to answer

Heathen fools. Cookies created us. They are the master species. Heil!

Ah yes..heathen questions..as much as it forces people away from the comfort of their beliefs (regardless if it is pro/anti religion), its like someone hearing a warning about a tornado coming towards their house. They can stick their heads in the sand, say itll never come, feel good and get f--ked over or they could leave that comfort zone and eventually end up saving their asses....time will tell what will happen

But shit have you seen the spaghetii monster ffs that thing scares the hell out of me when I see it

[Valtieres]

Heathen fools. Cookies created us. They are the master species. Heil!

Ah yes..heathen questions..as much as it forces people away from the comfort of their beliefs (regardless if it is pro/anti religion), its like someone hearing a warning about a tornado coming towards their house. They can stick their heads in the sand, say itll never come, feel good and get f--ked over or they could leave that comfort zone and eventually end up saving their asses....time will tell what will happen

But shit have you seen the spaghetii monster ffs that thing scares the hell out of me when I see it

The spaghetti monster is nothing in comparison to Neo Romana during His Her period....

[Norstal]

Brilliant. I applaud your awesomeness.

Young people. They disrespect the great Gilbert and Sullivan.

[Norstal]

You've never spoken to a 'New Ager' have you?

You mean people like Raelians?

[Frisivisia]

I belive in karma at time, but only when something bad happens to me, for closure. Other than that atheist/antitheist.

[Hallistar]

Ah yes..heathen questions..as much as it forces people away from the comfort of their beliefs (regardless if it is pro/anti religion), its like someone hearing a warning about a tornado coming towards their house. They can stick their heads in the sand, say itll never come, feel good and get f--ked over or they could leave that comfort zone and eventually end up saving their asses....time will tell what will happen

But shit have you seen the spaghetii monster ffs that thing scares the hell out of me when I see it

The spaghetti monster is nothing in comparison to Neo Romana during His Her period....

Oh dear I do wonder what that would look like

r u srsly tho trying to tell me this isnt scary shit right hur?

I mean...damn...look at that thing....gave me nightmares when I was younger

[Free Soviets]

The burden of proof lies with the theists who make the positive claim that there is/are a god, gods, and so forth. Atheists should never try to prove the negative that there is/are no god, gods. I think that atheists who try are wasting their time.

eh, 'prove' is a weird concept. there do seem to be some pretty logically compelling arguments against the existence of any of the gods people routinely worship, though.

the basic immediate consequence of looking at the world is that at least some of the gods posited to exist are false, obviously. too many flatly incompatible gods. so then we have to try to sort out which ones. the only method is to rely on reporting of experiences with the gods - what else could there be? except it turns out that everybody claims to have those. so that tells us that at least some alleged divine encounters are false. well shit, that not only leaves us nowhere but also means that the remaining explanations are that none of those encounters are real or the gods really don't give a shit about humans and our claimed experiences of them are at best accidental encounters that the gods don't care to make use of to be clear about anything. since the people that have these feel like they actually had very clear experiences, the former is the more likely option. but in either case, no gods posited by religions can reasonably be believed to be true.

you can get the same result through what i call the geographic problem - why is it that you never have two cultures independently come up with the same religion, but rather the distribution of religions looks exactly like you would expect if it was just yet another bit of cultural baggage (like pottery styles!) that flows according historical processes such as wars of conquest and shit? the only plausible explanations are that either the gods don't give a shit about humans or there are no gods. therefore all religions' gods are false.

and on the individual religion level, well, all the ones i have any knowledge of have their gods doing things we know didn't happen. so those are just obviously not real.

anyway, since the only possible gods wind up being ones that don't give a shit about humans and that we have no evidence for the existence of, believing they exist is actually somewhat crazy. the only ones that wind up being maybe ok but slightly weird to believe in are the sort of utterly aloof 'necessary being'-type gods. and that's only because those sorts of metaphysical arguments are fundamentally weird and squishy.

[Ifreann]

I was taught to be a Catholic for the first 12 years of my life, and I was never taught anything about Revelation being a coded message, and I was taught that there would be an end to the world. Perhaps it was just my teachers, or perhaps the position of the Church has changed since then, but I trust you understand that I'll be wanting a source.

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And you know that the experiences of people who were briefly 'dead' happened when they had zero brain activity? Not before that point, if such a point was ever reached?

Yes.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence01.html (the experience is documented at occurring at a time of zero brain activity.)

A subjective account, any facts in which could have been learned before or after the surgery, the actual experience of which cannot be tied to a particular time.

[Unilisia]

Atheist, always have been.

[Hallistar]

Atheist, always have been.

Heyyyyy you're that person that I was told my previous flag looked exactly the same like

Howudoin

[Naurobia]

I am a christian and I have studied religion and philosophy for 5 years. After doing a lot of consideration out of all them I realized that christianity was the most logical option there was.

[Hallistar]

I am a christian and I have studied religion and philosophy for 5 years. After doing a lot of consideration out of all them I realized that christianity was the most logical option there was.

I know people who have studied islam for so many years and they concluded the exact same thing,

There will always be that self internal bias, you must admit

I think such a study would need to be based by an absolutely non biased government using a massive supercomputer database compiling every single peice of information from every single religious book, speaker and organization, comparing them and listing discrepancies, then leaving that up for debate

[Norstal]

I am a christian and I have studied religion and philosophy for 5 years. After doing a lot of consideration out of all them I realized that christianity was the most logical option there was.

I know people who have studied islam for so many years and they concluded the exact same thing,

There will always be that self internal bias, you must admit

I think such a study would need to be based by an absolutely non biased government using a massive supercomputer database compiling every single peice of information from every single religious book, speaker and organization, comparing them and listing discrepancies, then leaving that up for debate

Wouldn't that break the ALU of the computer? I mean, it has to contain so much illogical things in it.