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by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:06 pm
by Esoterias » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:09 pm
John Lennon wrote:When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.
by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:12 pm
Esoterias wrote:Can they even be considered happy, factoring in that they're brain washed?
by AustriaHungaryBohemia » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:38 pm
by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:40 pm
AustriaHungaryBohemia wrote:@Tokyoni:
Democracy is... ah, why bother. Get yourself over to the workers' socialist paradise. Why haven't you moved there yet, anyway?
by Jericho Republic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:42 pm
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:50 pm
AustriaHungaryBohemia wrote:
And North Korea supports intellectuals how? Can you name even one important North Korean intellectual, or a significant contribution of that country to the humanities?
As opposed to North Korea, where some fatso is honoured as the "Dear Leader" by birthright? Where there is a literal cult of personality?
As opposed to North Korea with its "Military First" ideology and its tendency to invest all of its scarce resources in new military toys?
While any kind of religion (even the "uplifting" ones) except for leader worship is severely repressed in North Korea?
True. In North Korea it's "The Party, The Party, The Party". Big difference.
You mean, like the enormous wealth disparity between a starving peasant and the "Dear Leader"?
Even if we leave aside certain rumours about a 2000 - strong "pleasure corps" being run by the North Korean government... the North Korean regime exerts no pressure to conform? If anything, the opposite is true.
An unfair comparison. North Korea does not HAVE racial minorities.
While in North Korea people are discriminated against for their political views.
Endless vapid hymns of praise for the "Dear Leader" are so much more uplifting.
"Objective" meaning "yours", right?
Of course, the ones who do get honoured are a dead guy
and an obese movie addict. So, no dice for lofty ideals, I guess.
In painting, it's mostly "socialist realism", which was invented in the Stalinist era - hardly pre - industrial, even for Russia.
Poor North Korea. How could it have survived with only the support of China and the Soviet Union?
He also had a good - for nothing son. You may have heard of him. He humbly watches movies all day and has very humble parades in honour of his great humility. Humbly.
Point. North Koreans do not even get the semblance of democracy.
Philosopher kings? Really? Name one important North Korean philosopher.
And this "Juche" stuff is Stalinism. Plain and simple.
Not very original, really, since Stalinism is warmed over Lenininsm. Which is warmed over Marxism.
Hail to the great minds of the free world, who refuse to raise anyone to the status of god because they know human fallibility!
And death to all who pretentiously and "provocatively" pretend to support one of the worst dictators of the modern world because they did not enjoy "Survivor"! (I am not going to parody your last phrase, since the grammar is its own parody)
P. S. Your post is much more enjoyable when you imagine it read in a bored, nasal voice by some pale guy holding a glass of red wine.
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:51 pm
Jericho Republic wrote:I refuse to recognize that China and North Korea are the two most happiest countries on Earth.
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:54 pm
Hydesland wrote:Fucking hypocrite, you making outrageous, dehumanizing and obviously bullshit generalizations about 300 million fucking people and have the audacity to call them dehumanizing, lazy, disgusting and anti-intellectual. I can't fucking stay on this forum when you're allowed to get away with this insane bullshit. Every single post you ever make is so fucking wrong and absolutely contradictory not only to all rigorous academia, economics and history, but also common sense.
edit: welcome to my ignore list. Congratulations, you're the first person in nearly 6 years who has managed to be so obnoxious and manifestly wrong about everything so as to make it on that list.
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by Jericho Republic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:55 pm
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:55 pm
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by Jericho Republic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:57 pm
Tokyoni wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Understandable, seeing as how THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PRODUCED THE STUDY.
Forgive me, I'm still stricken by the stupidity of this.
And as if most of the organizations assessing "human rights" that rank the United States so highly aren't based right in the U of fucking SA?
by Jericho Republic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:57 pm
Tokyoni wrote:
But as an aggregate, I'm not really happy with American culture. I did not call all Americans such, or even blame Americans as a whole (as I believe culture to be generated by the substructure who control the superstructure), I simply said that American culture, as a whole, is not something that is edifying to the further development of mankind as an intellectual, social being.
Tokyoni wrote:As far as I'm concerned, American culture in aggregate is the most dehumanizing, vapid, anti-intellectual, lazy, disgusting, animalistic culture I think the world has ever seen. Certainly there are the rare, thankful exceptions to this, but I think that American culture is for the advancement of the human consciousness much akin to a deadly poison.
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:58 pm
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:59 pm
Tokyoni wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Understandable, seeing as how THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PRODUCED THE STUDY.
Forgive me, I'm still stricken by the stupidity of this.
And as if most of the organizations assessing "human rights" that rank the United States so highly aren't based right in the U of fucking SA?
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:00 pm
Jericho Republic wrote:Tokyoni wrote:
But as an aggregate, I'm not really happy with American culture. I did not call all Americans such, or even blame Americans as a whole (as I believe culture to be generated by the substructure who control the superstructure), I simply said that American culture, as a whole, is not something that is edifying to the further development of mankind as an intellectual, social being.Tokyoni wrote:As far as I'm concerned, American culture in aggregate is the most dehumanizing, vapid, anti-intellectual, lazy, disgusting, animalistic culture I think the world has ever seen. Certainly there are the rare, thankful exceptions to this, but I think that American culture is for the advancement of the human consciousness much akin to a deadly poison.
Bolded is pretty much implying that almost all Americans are how you described American culture.
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by Jagalonia » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:00 pm
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
by Jericho Republic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:02 pm
Tokyoni wrote:
In my experience, in my twenty-one years of living in this country, I've met in real life, precious few "fellow" Americans who care more for intellectual pursuits and bettering of one's self than this culture of mindless consumerism. Even in my years here at one of the supposedly more prestigious universities in this country, that still seems to be the case. So it's just a matter of my own observation and experiences.
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:02 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Tokyoni wrote:
And as if most of the organizations assessing "human rights" that rank the United States so highly aren't based right in the U of fucking SA?
Yeah, but at least people in the "U of SA" are allowed to dislike the "U of SA". Hence why there aren't any studies that say the U.S. is the happiest place on Earth.
That would be lying and absurd propaganda, without proof.
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by Jericho Republic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:03 pm
Tokyoni wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Yeah, but at least people in the "U of SA" are allowed to dislike the "U of SA". Hence why there aren't any studies that say the U.S. is the happiest place on Earth.
That would be lying and absurd propaganda, without proof.
http://www.stopfbi.net/
Happening as we speak to a number of people I know whose only "crimes" were criticizing the policies of the US government.
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:04 pm
Jericho Republic wrote:Tokyoni wrote:
In my experience, in my twenty-one years of living in this country, I've met in real life, precious few "fellow" Americans who care more for intellectual pursuits and bettering of one's self than this culture of mindless consumerism. Even in my years here at one of the supposedly more prestigious universities in this country, that still seems to be the case. So it's just a matter of my own observation and experiences.
That wasn't the point of my post. You said that you weren't calling all Americans how you described our culture, but you basically were. Just throwing in that there are a few rare circumstances in which that isn't the case doesn't make it any better.
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:05 pm
Tokyoni wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Yeah, but at least people in the "U of SA" are allowed to dislike the "U of SA". Hence why there aren't any studies that say the U.S. is the happiest place on Earth.
That would be lying and absurd propaganda, without proof.
http://www.stopfbi.net/
Happening as we speak to a number of people I know whose only "crimes" were criticizing the policies of the US government.
by Tokyoni » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:06 pm
Jericho Republic wrote:Tokyoni wrote:
http://www.stopfbi.net/
Happening as we speak to a number of people I know whose only "crimes" were criticizing the policies of the US government.
Do that in China or North Korea and you are either shot on sight or sent to a camp.
Saurisia wrote:People's Empire of the Rising Juche Sun
by Mpya Mwanzo » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:07 pm
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