US to boycott racism conference

[Hamiltonya]

If I claim a piece of your garden as my land by conquering it violently and you hit me later in the face then I can't say that you started the aggression.

If you're talking about the 1967 conquest Israel struck preemptively to prevent Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia, Sudan, and the PLO from gang raping them.

How do you come up with this? "gang-raping". I mean I swear I'm not just kissing ass I really am astounded.

[Kreanoltha]

Didn't they extend the borders AFTER this 6 day war several times?

How many Jews are now living in the occupied territories?
Aren't they building new houses in that area this week?

I'm not sure of the numbers but why wouldn't Israel build houses within it's own land?

Exactly. If I need to build more buildings and I get more land, you can bet your ass that I'm building on it. Fuck the little pissy wimp who's telling my I can't use my land or he'll cry.

[Hamiltonya]

I think Arab nations just look for any reason to attack Israel, whether it be verbally or physically, because they can't handle the fact such a tiny country repeatedly kicked their ass.

[Dododecapod]

Yes - when the Arabs attacked Israel AGAIN in the Yom Kippur war. But Israel gave that back. Plus the Sinai, as a sop to Egypt when they dcided to make a true peace.

[Kreanoltha]

If you're talking about the 1967 conquest Israel struck preemptively to prevent Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia, Sudan, and the PLO from gang raping them.

How do you come up with this? "gang-raping". I mean I swear I'm not just kissing ass I really am astounded.

Well, it's twelve on one. I think that qualifies as gang rape. Israel just happened to cut off Egypt, Syria, and Jordan's manlyness(read air-fields, bomber, fighter craft, land-force staging areas, and navies) before they could make their move.

[Hamiltonya]

Lol nope. If you insist. The French aren't renowned for their obligation to morals.

Generalising is mostly stupid. It sure is in this case. It's not only close to racism, it isn't true either.

Lol now you know how Israel feels.

[Kreanoltha]

Lol nope. If you insist. The French aren't renowned for their obligation to morals.

Generalising is mostly stupid. It sure is in this case. It's not only close to racism, it isn't true either.

No. Your race is your phenotype; black, white, asian, ect. If anything, this is nationalism.

Generalising is mostly stupid. It sure is in this case. It's not only close to racism, it isn't true either.

Lol now you know how Israel feels.

[Hamiltonya]

Generalising is mostly stupid. It sure is in this case. It's not only close to racism, it isn't true either.

No. Your race is your phenotype; black, white, asian, ect. If anything, this is nationalism.

I don't think I can be racist in this situation then. I'm just one of those jingoists you read about in magazines.

[Hamiltonya]

Thanks. I thought it was a good reply too.

[Kreanoltha]

No. Your race is your phenotype; black, white, asian, ect. If anything, this is nationalism.

I don't think I can be racist in this situation then. I'm just one of those jingoists you read about in magazines.

I can't necessarily say I agree with jingoism, but, by jingo, I'll defend your right to be one.

[Hamiltonya]

I'm not sure of the numbers but why wouldn't Israel build houses within it's own land?

Stealing land doesn't make you the owner.

They can posses it for some time, but it will not last forever.

At a sudden point in the future the Palestinians will outnumber the Jews.
If the Jews are smart, which they are, they make a deal now. Else there's no Israel anymore.

You can control all the country some time, you can control some country all the time, but you can’t control all the country all the time.

Lol I didn't know the Jews had ever outnumbered Pakistanis. Do you want to know why Israel can stand against all the Islamic countries? I'll answer this question with another question. Which country is the leading developer in military technology?

[Kreanoltha]

I'm not sure of the numbers but why wouldn't Israel build houses within it's own land?

Stealing land doesn't make you the owner.

They can posses it for some time, but it will not last forever.

At a sudden point in the future the Palestinians will outnumber the Jews.
If the Jews are smart, which they are, they make a deal now. Else there's no Israel anymore.

You can control all the country some time, you can control some country all the time, but you can’t control all the country all the time.

Actually, I think that is the reason for the settlements; to make sure they stay in place as the majority. Anyway, I find it a bit ridiculous that the middle eastern countries bitch about Israel. All it is is an infertile strip of coast land about the size of a postage stamp if you assume the middle east is about the size of an average diner table.

[Hamiltonya]

I don't think I can be racist in this situation then. I'm just one of those jingoists you read about in magazines.

I can't necessarily say I agree with jingoism, but, by jingo, I'll defend your right to be one.

I'm kidding. In my opinion, I think the world would be a much cooler place if the confederacy had won. Not because I want the US weaker but because could you image the type of technology that would have developed from the rivalry between these two.

[Pope Joan]

This really is a zionist conspiracy...

Who knew being Jewish was a racial thing? All these years, I thought it had to do with (an imaginative yet practical) system of belief.

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[Dododecapod]

I'm not sure of the numbers but why wouldn't Israel build houses within it's own land?

Stealing land doesn't make you the owner.

They can posses it for some time, but it will not last forever.

At a sudden point in the future the Palestinians will outnumber the Jews.
If the Jews are smart, which they are, they make a deal now. Else there's no Israel anymore.

You can control all the country some time, you can control some country all the time, but you can’t control all the country all the time.

Sure you can. First, I don't believe in population bombs - something always happens to defuse them. Second, by the time this one is going to go off, there won't BE any Palestinians - all of Gaza and the West Bank will have been settled by Israelis at the current rate, meaning there will be no Palestinians anymore, only refugees in other countries.
And een if the Israelis DON'T colonize all of Palestine, they'll never give the Palestinians the vote, so who cares how many they are?

[Kreanoltha]

I can't necessarily say I agree with jingoism, but, by jingo, I'll defend your right to be one.

I'm kidding. In my opinion, I think the world would be a much cooler place if the confederacy had won. Not because I want the US weaker but because could you image the type of technology that would have developed from the rivalry between these two.

That would be pretty cool.

This really is a zionist conspiracy...

Who knew being Jewish was a racial thing? All these years, I thought it had to do with (an imaginative yet practical) system of belief.

Actually being Jewish is an ethnic thing. The can trace their linage back to the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. People who can trace their linage back to the other ten tribes (not Dan) are Israelis.

[Hamiltonya]

He's Jewish, so he takes this personally and knows a WHOOLLLLEEEE lot more about Israel than I do.

[Dododecapod]

Actually, I think that is the reason for the settlements; to make sure they stay in place as the majority. Anyway, I find it a bit ridiculous that the middle eastern countries bitch about Israel. All it is is an infertility strip of coast land about the size of a postage stamp if you assume the middle east is about the size of an average diner table.

The Argentines and Brit started once a war for some fucking tiny islands loaded with sheep.

The middle east is not a homogeneous group, it’s containing lot of different cultures.
The Palestinians used to live in the area where now Israel is located.

Anyway, no country in the world accepts that another violently conquers pieces of its land. The “size” excuse is not an excuse.

True, but the original area of Israel was taken from the break-up of the Ottoman Empire, not any extant state. And everything else has been taken from aggressors.

[Kreanoltha]

Actually, I think that is the reason for the settlements; to make sure they stay in place as the majority. Anyway, I find it a bit ridiculous that the middle eastern countries bitch about Israel. All it is is an infertility strip of coast land about the size of a postage stamp if you assume the middle east is about the size of an average diner table.

The Argentines and Brit started once a war for some fucking tiny islands loaded with sheep.

The middle east is not a homogeneous group, it’s containing lot of different cultures.
The Palestinians used to live in the area where now Israel is located.

Anyway, no country in the world accepts that another violently conquers pieces of its land. The “size” excuse is not an excuse.

So we should evict the entire population of England? I doubt the Picts and Celtics appreciated the Jut invasion. I also doubt that the UN sanctioned the Norman invasion that happened later. We also need to evict the Mexicans, Canadians, and Americans. All of our lands were conquered violently and therefore our claims are invalid.

[Hamiltonya]

Actually, I think that is the reason for the settlements; to make sure they stay in place as the majority. Anyway, I find it a bit ridiculous that the middle eastern countries bitch about Israel. All it is is an infertility strip of coast land about the size of a postage stamp if you assume the middle east is about the size of an average diner table.

The Argentines and Brit started once a war for some fucking tiny islands loaded with sheep.

The middle east is not a homogeneous group, it’s containing lot of different cultures.
The Palestinians used to live in the area where now Israel is located.

Anyway, no country in the world accepts that another violently conquers pieces of its land. The “size” excuse is not an excuse.

What are you talking about? Every country accepts that another country can conquer it's land. How do you think France got the Rhineland?

[Hamiltonya]

So we should evict the entire population of England? I doubt the Picts and Celtics appreciated the Jut invasion. I also doubt that the UN sanctioned the Norman invasion that happened later. We also need to evict the Mexicans, Canadians, and Americans. All of our lands were conquered violently and therefore our claims are invalid.

We dropped our medieval backward behaviour some time ago. Israel is still conquering land. Every year, every month and every day they expand their borders more.

The Rhineland was gained after WWII.... That was only 60 years ago.

[Dododecapod]

Sure you can. First, I don't believe in population bombs - something always happens to defuse them. Second, by the time this one is going to go off, there won't BE any Palestinians - all of Gaza and the West Bank will have been settled by Israelis at the current rate, meaning there will be no Palestinians anymore, only refugees in other countries.
And een if the Israelis DON'T colonize all of Palestine, they'll never give the Palestinians the vote, so who cares how many they are?

Actually you're telling the Israeli are commiting a genocide.

You know what's frightening? That it seems that you think that a genocide is ok, normal and acceptable.

Actually, I'd use the term "ethnic cleansing" rather then Genocide, as I expect the Palestinians will be "encouraged to leave" rather then shot. And no, I don't think it's OK at all. But I also don't think anyone is going to do anything about it, and unless things change radically Israel has no reason to do anything about it, so it's probably going to happen.
Oh, and I don't see anyone moaning about the Germans being ethnically cleansed from the Sudetenland and Poland after WWII, so don't try to tell me that all such actions are reprehensible.

[Dododecapod]

The Argentines and Brit started once a war for some fucking tiny islands loaded with sheep.

The middle east is not a homogeneous group, it’s containing lot of different cultures.
The Palestinians used to live in the area where now Israel is located.

Anyway, no country in the world accepts that another violently conquers pieces of its land. The “size” excuse is not an excuse.

What are you talking about? Every country accepts that another country can conquer it's land. How do you think France got the Rhineland?

Ah, they didn't. You're thinking of Alsace and Lorraine.

[Hamiltonya]

Also, Israel isn't conquering foreign nations. They simply keep the land they win when they are attacked and sometimes they are nice enough to give it back.

[Kreanoltha]

Sure you can. First, I don't believe in population bombs - something always happens to defuse them. Second, by the time this one is going to go off, there won't BE any Palestinians - all of Gaza and the West Bank will have been settled by Israelis at the current rate, meaning there will be no Palestinians anymore, only refugees in other countries.
And een if the Israelis DON'T colonize all of Palestine, they'll never give the Palestinians the vote, so who cares how many they are?

Actually you're telling the Israeli are commiting a genocide.

You know what's frightening? That it seems that you think that a genocide is ok, normal and acceptable.

Actually, what's frightening is hat you think that is genocide. Look at Africa. Millions of people are being slaughtered just because of where they were born or who they are descended from. That is genocide. Forced relocation does not a genocide make.

Hell, Hammas and Al-Quiada are the ones committing genocide as well as war crimes. They're killing innocent civilians just because of who their ancestors are. That is a genocide.

The Argentines and Brit started once a war for some fucking tiny islands loaded with sheep.

The middle east is not a homogeneous group, it’s containing lot of different cultures.
The Palestinians used to live in the area where now Israel is located.

Anyway, no country in the world accepts that another violently conquers pieces of its land. The “size” excuse is not an excuse.

What are you talking about? Every country accepts that another country can conquer it's land. How do you think France got the Rhineland Alsace and Lorraine?

I knew I was forgetting something.