US to boycott racism conference

[Hamiltonya]

Who is boycotting is less important than why they're boycotting. If the conference has no answer to the charges the boycotters bring (and in this case they don't) then the boycotters are in the right.

Why are the other countries not seeing the light? Or is the entire world stupid and anti-Semitic?
Or is it more likely that USA and Israel have a shared agenda?

No, because the US is one of the few countries that supports Israel. Seriously, it's not a conspiracy. Go look at how the Durbin II conference ended. Islamic nations tried to pass a resolution which would outlaw criticisms of Islam.

[Kreanoltha]

Actually this is the correct list and reasoning:

Israel which sees no reason to attend an event where they will be bashed by Holocaust deniers and nations that want to wipe them off the map.

The USA which i not attending both to protest the fact that Durban is antisemitism thinly veiled as "Anti-Racism," and to back up our alley.

Canada either because they also have a problem with antisemitism, or because they are our hate and they go where ever we go.

Actually Dododecapod is right. --V--

Denying the holocaust is in many European countries a crime. Really.

Which European country is a holocaust denier and want to wipe Israel of the map?

Live under a rock? I was talking about that fat, bloated cunt Ahmadenijad. Also, if Israel, the USA, and Canada have a diabolical agenda it is to deny this "meeting" legitimacy by ignoring it.

[Hamiltonya]

He didn't say European.

He's suggesting that the countries which are not part of this silly boycott are Holocaust deniers and want to wipe Israel off the map.

No he was talking about the countries that took over the last Durbin conference.

[Dododecapod]

An agenda to not allow a conference on racism to be hijacked by political extremism into a springboard for a non-racism situation? Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Why are the other countries not seeing the light? Or is the entire world stupid and anti-Semitic?

Or do you suppose that Europe and most other countries in South America, Asia, Africa and Australia are all stupid and anti-Semitic?

No, but they don't have as much invested in the issue. Probably, a lot of those countries want to try to be a moderating influence and try to get the conference back on track, and others just don't want to be seen as supporting Israel or the US for a variety of (for them, good) reasons. I think the "moderators" are wrong - you can't cure a barrel of rotten apples by throwing in a few good ones.

[Hamiltonya]

Denying the holocaust is in many European countries a crime. Really.

Which European country is a holocaust denier and want to wipe Israel of the map?

Live under a rock? I was talking about that fat, bloated cunt Ahmadenijad. Also, if Israel, the USA, and Canada have a diabolical agenda it is to deny this "meeting" legitimacy by ignoring it.

That was probably the best description of Ahmadenijad I have ever read. That was hilarious.

[Dododecapod]

He didn't say European.

He's suggesting that the countries which are not part of this silly boycott are Holocaust deniers and want to wipe Israel off the map.

And he never said they were European. That was all you.

[Hamiltonya]

No, because the US is one of the few countries that supports Israel. Seriously, it's not a conspiracy. Go look at how the Durbin II conference ended. Islamic nations tried to pass a resolution which would outlaw criticisms of Islam.

The Last time:
Why are the other countries not seeing the light? Or is the entire world stupid and anti-Semitic?

Btw, while Europe is having critique it surely is supporting Israel too.

Europe won't because European countries think it's their job to moderate the UN. Other countries are just happy to be invited.

[Kreanoltha]

He didn't say European.

He's suggesting that the countries which are not part of this silly boycott are Holocaust deniers and want to wipe Israel off the map.

I was suggesting that a few nations, or at least their leaders, are antisemitic and openly deny the Holocaust. I'll give you this though; you are excellent at twisting words.

That was probably the best description of Ahmadenijad I have ever read. That was hilarious.

Happy to be of service. If only the sig cap was a little longer...

[Kreanoltha]

The Last time:
Why are the other countries not seeing the light? Or is the entire world stupid and anti-Semitic?

Ugh... I'll regret asking this, but seeing the light of what exactly. Be specific.

[Hamiltonya]

He's from France. What more would you expect?

[Kreanoltha]

He's from France. What more would you expect?

That's about right. Damn sig cap...

Also, he just left as soon as he figured out that his attack was failing. Set up a level 12 quarantine around the entire thread. We have a case of terminal Frenchitis.

[Hamiltonya]

The Last time:
Why are the other countries not seeing the light? Or is the entire world stupid and anti-Semitic?

Ugh... I'll regret asking this, but seeing the light of what exactly. Be specific.

Seeing the light of not boycotting the Durbin III conference as well if it truly is anti-Semitic. He'll say something that can be easily misinterpreted and lash out when you don't understand, so I went ahead and gave my opinion.

[Kreanoltha]

Ugh... I'll regret asking this, but seeing the light of what exactly. Be specific.

Seeing the light of not boycotting the Durbin III conference as well if they truly are anti-Semitic. He'll say something that can be easily misinterpreted and lash out when you don't understand, so I went ahead and gave my opinion.

Well, I would assume, then, that it is because the UN is the god of Europe, and if even one nation doubts the entire system falls apart. Then all of Europe will be plunged into darkness for an eternity as faith in the UN fades.

[Hamiltonya]

If all other countries, except 3, see some room for progression than you don't help the case by boycotting it.

Maybe it's not correct that a few countries misuse the conference to bash Israel, but it's understandable. We don't listen to their voice since 1948.

Israel conquered and is occupying a piece of land violently and is doing all kind of real disgusting and horrible things (and racism is included) to the original population.

I won't deny that Israel hasn't done some unfavorable things, but you can't deny that the countries surrounding haven't returned the favor. Well, technically, the countries around Israel started it.

[Hamiltonya]

I would agree. None of the European countries have the balls to leave a UN meeting. They're too busy pretending they are still the powerhouses of the world.

[Hamiltonya]

He's from France. What more would you expect?

Can you explain this one better?

Ha, no not really.

[Dododecapod]

If all other countries, except 3, see some room for progression than you don't help the case by boycotting it.

Maybe it's not correct that a few countries misuse the conference to bash Israel, but it's understandable. We don't listen to their voice since 1948.

Israel conquered and is occupying a piece of land violently and is doing all kind of real disgusting and horrible things (and racism is included) to the original population.

Actually, Israel took land that was being used to attack them violently. If you take territory of an aggressor, there's no moral or legal reason to give it back.

[Hamiltonya]

I won't deny that Israel hasn't done some unfavorable things, but you can't deny that the countries surrounding haven't returned the favor. Well, technically, the countries around Israel started it.

If I claim a piece of your garden as my land by conquering it violently and you hit me later in the face then I can't say that you started the aggression.

Israel didn't take the land. Britain took it. So if you want to look at it that way, Europe started it.

[Kreanoltha]

Israel conquered and is occupying a piece of land violently and is doing all kind of real disgusting and horrible things (and racism is included) to the original population.

Yes, and, according to the treaty that ended the Six Day War, they get to keep it and settle in it. Any attempt to stop them restarts the war. Then the UN had to stick its stupid head in things... Funking UN.

[Pyravar]

Just what's the point of this conference anyway? What's the actual goal in mind? What are we actually losing by not attending? Anything?

More UN fluff. Further sign that the UN is useless.

[Dododecapod]

Ha, no not really.

Lost your balls?

No, just the point that it's a (fairly poor) joke that he doesn't feel like explaining, I expect.

[Hamiltonya]

Unless you're not talking about the foundation of Israel. If you're talking about the West Strip and so forth, Israel received most of this extra land in wars where it was not the aggressor.

[Hamiltonya]

Ha, no not really.

Lost your balls?

Lol nope. If you insist. The French aren't renowned for their obligation to morals.

[Hamiltonya]

Yes, and, according to the treaty that ended the Six Day War, they get to keep it and settle in it. Any attempt to stop them restarts the war. Then the UN had to stick its stupid head in things... Funking UN.

Didn't they extend the borders AFTER this 6 day war several times?

How many Jews are now living in the occupied territories?
Aren't they building new houses in that area this week?

I'm not sure of the numbers but why wouldn't Israel build houses within it's own land?

[Kreanoltha]

I won't deny that Israel hasn't done some unfavorable things, but you can't deny that the countries surrounding haven't returned the favor. Well, technically, the countries around Israel started it.

If I claim a piece of your garden as my land by conquering it violently and you hit me later in the face then I can't say that you started the aggression.

If you're talking about the 1967 conquest Israel struck preemptively to prevent Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia, Sudan, and the PLO from gang raping them.