Homophobes Are Just Uncomfortable With Being In The Closet

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I wouldn't directly link arousal and orientation, most people do demonstrate some degree of situational dependent sexuality after all. However, it's interesting the self-identified homophobes became more aroused than the non-homophobes.

The arousal may be linked to anxiety about the situation, sorry if thats already been mentioned.

It has been, but anxiety causes the opposite response as sexual arousal, bloodflow to the genitals is decreased when once is anxious without sexual stimulus.

[Pauper Kings]

Rather than spam other topics, I figured there was enough to discuss on this topic to justify creating a new one.

People often anecdotal kid about homophobes actually just being closeted, insecure individuals with homosexual tendencies. Finally this got me curious enough to research to see if there was any evidence linking the two objectively.

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.

You can read the study that the above quote was pulled from here: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

One of the most important lines of work in this area dates back to a 1996 article published in The Journal of Abnormal Psychology. In this empirical paper, researchers Henry Adams, Lester Wright, Jr., and Bethany Lohr from the University of Georgia report evidence that homophobic young males may secretly have gay urges.

In this study, 64 self-reported straight males with a mean age of 20.3 years were divided into two groups ("non-homophobic men" and "homophobic men") on the basis of their scores on a questionnaire measure of aversion to gay males. Here, homophobia was operationally defined as the degree of "dread" experienced when placed in close quarters with a homosexual--basically, how comfortable or uncomfortable the person was in interacting with gay people. (There is debate in the clinical literature about the semantics of this term, with some scholars introducing other constructs such as "homonegativism" to underscore the more cognitive nature of some people's antigay stance.)

Each participant then agreed to attach a penile plethysmograph to his, well, "lesser self." According to the authors, this plethysmograph device is "a mercury-in-rubber circumferential strain gauge used to measure erectile responses to sexual stimuli. When attached, changes in the circumference of the penis cause changes in the electrical resistance of the mercury column." Previous research with this apparatus (the plethsymograph, not the penis--well, actually both) confirmed that significant changes in circumference occur only during sexual stimulation and sleep.

Next, the participants were placed in a private chamber and presented with three 4-minute segments of graphic pornography. The three video snippets represented straight porn (scenes of fellatio and vaginal intercourse), lesbian porn (scenes of cunnilingus or tribadism), and gay male porn (scenes of fellatio and anal intercourse). Following each randomly ordered video presentation, the participant rated how sexually aroused he felt and also his degree of penile erection. Can you guess the results?

Both groups--non-homophobic and homophobic men--showed significant engorgement to the straight and lesbian porn and their subjective ratings of arousal matched their penile plethsymograph measure for these two types of video. However, as predicted, only the homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference in response to the gay male porn: specifically, 26 percent of these homophobic men showed "moderate tumescence" (6-12 mm) to this video and 54 percent showed "definite tumescence" (more than 12 mm). (In contrast, for the non-homophobic men, these percentages were 10 and 24, respectively.) Furthermore, the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of sexual arousal to the gay male porn.
Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... aight-male

http://www.unknownnews.net/homophobia.html

So, if anecdotal evidence wasn't enough, hard facts make it look that way too.

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

[Michael VII]

I can be classed as a homophobe sometimes, however, I ain't in the closet. I can tell you that as a fact!

Sometimes there are just coincidences with some homophobes being in the closet, and a coincidental fact that some straight men are aroused by gay sexual intercourse, its just a rush of blood. The same happens to me, however I have no interest whatsoever in having a gay encounter myself...Chicks>Dicks every day!

[Coffee Cakes]

Too bad you picked wrong... you'd have to whoop the Aspie out of me...

I will just have to redouble my efforts then!

<.<
...
>.>
...

*runs away*

[Draconian Races]

Rather than spam other topics, I figured there was enough to discuss on this topic to justify creating a new one.

People often anecdotal kid about homophobes actually just being closeted, insecure individuals with homosexual tendencies. Finally this got me curious enough to research to see if there was any evidence linking the two objectively.



You can read the study that the above quote was pulled from here: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

One of the most important lines of work in this area dates back to a 1996 article published in The Journal of Abnormal Psychology. In this empirical paper, researchers Henry Adams, Lester Wright, Jr., and Bethany Lohr from the University of Georgia report evidence that homophobic young males may secretly have gay urges.

In this study, 64 self-reported straight males with a mean age of 20.3 years were divided into two groups ("non-homophobic men" and "homophobic men") on the basis of their scores on a questionnaire measure of aversion to gay males. Here, homophobia was operationally defined as the degree of "dread" experienced when placed in close quarters with a homosexual--basically, how comfortable or uncomfortable the person was in interacting with gay people. (There is debate in the clinical literature about the semantics of this term, with some scholars introducing other constructs such as "homonegativism" to underscore the more cognitive nature of some people's antigay stance.)

Each participant then agreed to attach a penile plethysmograph to his, well, "lesser self." According to the authors, this plethysmograph device is "a mercury-in-rubber circumferential strain gauge used to measure erectile responses to sexual stimuli. When attached, changes in the circumference of the penis cause changes in the electrical resistance of the mercury column." Previous research with this apparatus (the plethsymograph, not the penis--well, actually both) confirmed that significant changes in circumference occur only during sexual stimulation and sleep.

Next, the participants were placed in a private chamber and presented with three 4-minute segments of graphic pornography. The three video snippets represented straight porn (scenes of fellatio and vaginal intercourse), lesbian porn (scenes of cunnilingus or tribadism), and gay male porn (scenes of fellatio and anal intercourse). Following each randomly ordered video presentation, the participant rated how sexually aroused he felt and also his degree of penile erection. Can you guess the results?

Both groups--non-homophobic and homophobic men--showed significant engorgement to the straight and lesbian porn and their subjective ratings of arousal matched their penile plethsymograph measure for these two types of video. However, as predicted, only the homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference in response to the gay male porn: specifically, 26 percent of these homophobic men showed "moderate tumescence" (6-12 mm) to this video and 54 percent showed "definite tumescence" (more than 12 mm). (In contrast, for the non-homophobic men, these percentages were 10 and 24, respectively.) Furthermore, the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of sexual arousal to the gay male porn.
Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... aight-male

http://www.unknownnews.net/homophobia.html

So, if anecdotal evidence wasn't enough, hard facts make it look that way too.

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

*Goes on a rant* Laundrysexuality is evil! Die! Evil! Evil!!!! Gaaah. [/sarcasm]

On another note, very good point

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Rather than spam other topics, I figured there was enough to discuss on this topic to justify creating a new one.

People often anecdotal kid about homophobes actually just being closeted, insecure individuals with homosexual tendencies. Finally this got me curious enough to research to see if there was any evidence linking the two objectively.



You can read the study that the above quote was pulled from here: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

One of the most important lines of work in this area dates back to a 1996 article published in The Journal of Abnormal Psychology. In this empirical paper, researchers Henry Adams, Lester Wright, Jr., and Bethany Lohr from the University of Georgia report evidence that homophobic young males may secretly have gay urges.

In this study, 64 self-reported straight males with a mean age of 20.3 years were divided into two groups ("non-homophobic men" and "homophobic men") on the basis of their scores on a questionnaire measure of aversion to gay males. Here, homophobia was operationally defined as the degree of "dread" experienced when placed in close quarters with a homosexual--basically, how comfortable or uncomfortable the person was in interacting with gay people. (There is debate in the clinical literature about the semantics of this term, with some scholars introducing other constructs such as "homonegativism" to underscore the more cognitive nature of some people's antigay stance.)

Each participant then agreed to attach a penile plethysmograph to his, well, "lesser self." According to the authors, this plethysmograph device is "a mercury-in-rubber circumferential strain gauge used to measure erectile responses to sexual stimuli. When attached, changes in the circumference of the penis cause changes in the electrical resistance of the mercury column." Previous research with this apparatus (the plethsymograph, not the penis--well, actually both) confirmed that significant changes in circumference occur only during sexual stimulation and sleep.

Next, the participants were placed in a private chamber and presented with three 4-minute segments of graphic pornography. The three video snippets represented straight porn (scenes of fellatio and vaginal intercourse), lesbian porn (scenes of cunnilingus or tribadism), and gay male porn (scenes of fellatio and anal intercourse). Following each randomly ordered video presentation, the participant rated how sexually aroused he felt and also his degree of penile erection. Can you guess the results?

Both groups--non-homophobic and homophobic men--showed significant engorgement to the straight and lesbian porn and their subjective ratings of arousal matched their penile plethsymograph measure for these two types of video. However, as predicted, only the homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference in response to the gay male porn: specifically, 26 percent of these homophobic men showed "moderate tumescence" (6-12 mm) to this video and 54 percent showed "definite tumescence" (more than 12 mm). (In contrast, for the non-homophobic men, these percentages were 10 and 24, respectively.) Furthermore, the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of sexual arousal to the gay male porn.
Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... aight-male

http://www.unknownnews.net/homophobia.html

So, if anecdotal evidence wasn't enough, hard facts make it look that way too.

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

There are cross-dressers who do it for arousal and plenty of discrimination against them?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Someone should show this to a certain homosexual hater before his penis explodes.

This.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

:[ how sad, my posts are being ignored.

/waiting for response

[Orcoa]

Well, it was a mental disorder until recently. Until politically-correct leftie liberals took over psychiatry, that is.

I don't get why homos have such a big issue in accepting that things are not quite right with them. There's plenty of other people with one or another type of mental disorder living normal lives. Let's face it - if there's something that interferes with your ability to choose a mate for successful reproduction, then it is obviously not normal. It doesn't make you inferior, it doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes you afflicted, just like any illness would.

What makes you a bad person is when you not only deny something is wrong with you, but also start trying to force everyone else to say and think you're fine. Things like that tend to get on peoples' nerves, so obviously they will at some point get mad at you and say ugly things. If you don't relent, and fail to recognize your error, you become angry and hostile towards the world and try even harder to force your view (that you are normal, respectively) on everyone. And again they respond with being even nastier, and we have a vicious circle in place.

Hmmmm...Maybe a black crusade will make him change his mind

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Rather than spam other topics, I figured there was enough to discuss on this topic to justify creating a new one.

People often anecdotal kid about homophobes actually just being closeted, insecure individuals with homosexual tendencies. Finally this got me curious enough to research to see if there was any evidence linking the two objectively.



You can read the study that the above quote was pulled from here: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

One of the most important lines of work in this area dates back to a 1996 article published in The Journal of Abnormal Psychology. In this empirical paper, researchers Henry Adams, Lester Wright, Jr., and Bethany Lohr from the University of Georgia report evidence that homophobic young males may secretly have gay urges.

In this study, 64 self-reported straight males with a mean age of 20.3 years were divided into two groups ("non-homophobic men" and "homophobic men") on the basis of their scores on a questionnaire measure of aversion to gay males. Here, homophobia was operationally defined as the degree of "dread" experienced when placed in close quarters with a homosexual--basically, how comfortable or uncomfortable the person was in interacting with gay people. (There is debate in the clinical literature about the semantics of this term, with some scholars introducing other constructs such as "homonegativism" to underscore the more cognitive nature of some people's antigay stance.)

Each participant then agreed to attach a penile plethysmograph to his, well, "lesser self." According to the authors, this plethysmograph device is "a mercury-in-rubber circumferential strain gauge used to measure erectile responses to sexual stimuli. When attached, changes in the circumference of the penis cause changes in the electrical resistance of the mercury column." Previous research with this apparatus (the plethsymograph, not the penis--well, actually both) confirmed that significant changes in circumference occur only during sexual stimulation and sleep.

Next, the participants were placed in a private chamber and presented with three 4-minute segments of graphic pornography. The three video snippets represented straight porn (scenes of fellatio and vaginal intercourse), lesbian porn (scenes of cunnilingus or tribadism), and gay male porn (scenes of fellatio and anal intercourse). Following each randomly ordered video presentation, the participant rated how sexually aroused he felt and also his degree of penile erection. Can you guess the results?

Both groups--non-homophobic and homophobic men--showed significant engorgement to the straight and lesbian porn and their subjective ratings of arousal matched their penile plethsymograph measure for these two types of video. However, as predicted, only the homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference in response to the gay male porn: specifically, 26 percent of these homophobic men showed "moderate tumescence" (6-12 mm) to this video and 54 percent showed "definite tumescence" (more than 12 mm). (In contrast, for the non-homophobic men, these percentages were 10 and 24, respectively.) Furthermore, the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of sexual arousal to the gay male porn.
Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... aight-male

http://www.unknownnews.net/homophobia.html

So, if anecdotal evidence wasn't enough, hard facts make it look that way too.

Wow, shallow, agenda-driven cliches passed off as research.

This is pretty much the same thing as when I was twelve and a kid asked me if I had a hard-on because we were watching a movie that showed a bare ass. There is little difference because this research is just as juvenile. I can't believe this shit receives funding!


Sorry to break it to you; but, most people who think homosexuality is disgusting think it's disgusting...because it's disgusting. BTW, a man can get an erection from sliding on underwear that's is cool and soft to the touch, among other things. Is there now such a thing as Laundrysexuals and the Laundrysexualphobes who 'fear' them?

Wow, ignorantly dismissing the study without even bothering to read it. If you're going to attack it, maybe find some flaw with the methodology, instead of just panicking that they might be on to you.

[Wikkiwallana]

Except that's not a right, never has been.

I dont have the right to determine who my private business serves?
So when the Tories discriminated against patriotic Americans, or when patriotic Americans discriminated agianst Tories, they all should have been jailed?

I want the right to refuse service to anyone. And I will accept others right to that.

You have the right to choose to serve customers or not based on things they can choose for themselves (unless you provide potentially life saving services) but not on things that are inherent to them.

[Joeykickdoors]

Not death, but re-education. And I am not a troll. But yes, mental disorders, if they are too evident, should be corrected or punished. If they are subtle enough that they are not evident in public beyond very mild 'quirks', then they are ok.

>Implying gay "re-education" works
>mfw
>

Ah, yes, punishing people for things beyond their control. Much like we send kids to jail when their fathers commit murder, steal, etc. Oh wait.

Well put. It's beyond me how somebody could support punishing people for things out of their control.

[Coffee Cakes]

:[ how sad, my posts are being ignored.

/waiting for response

I've been waiting for a response from Drac on 2 of my posts. Good luck. He ain't man enough to answer.

[Terra Mariana]

Interesting why this issue is so important these days...

The world is turning to a polluted, impoverished war-torn shithole by the day, greedy businesses find new and new ways to rob and exploit you, world's ecosystems are slowly nearing extinction and resources ominously approach depletion, and yet here we are, discussing whether it's right or wrong for two guys to fuck each other in the ass..

If I was a politician, I couldn't help but smile at how easily the masses are divided and set upon each other. Divide and conquer indeed...

[Mussoliniopoli]

Hmmmm...Maybe a black crusade will make him change his mind

I have held a council with my chainaxe...it said yes.

[Marsholm]

Except that's not a right, never has been.

I dont have the right to determine who my private business serves?
So when the Tories discriminated against patriotic Americans, or when patriotic Americans discriminated agianst Tories, they all should have been jailed?

I want the right to refuse service to anyone. And I will accept others right to that.

That's what's wrong with today's society. If someone doesn't like something, they sue. We ought to bring back rapier duels at dusk.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Interesting why this issue is so important these days...

The world is turning to a polluted, impoverished war-torn shithole by the day, greedy businesses find new and new ways to rob and exploit you, world's ecosystems are slowly nearing extinction and resources ominously approach depletion, and yet here we are, discussing whether it's right or wrong for two guys to fuck each other in the ass..

If I was a politician, I couldn't help but smile at how easily the masses are divided and set upon each other. Divide and conquer indeed...

Because lesser things never matter ever? Only the massive things should be looked at.

Just because it's not as important to you, doesn't mean it's wholly irrelevant.

[Draconian Races]

:[ how sad, my posts are being ignored.

/waiting for response

I've been waiting for a response from Drac on 2 of my posts. Good luck. He ain't man enough to answer.

Which 2? Im trying to keep up with alot of posts. And Ive answered direct questions when Ive seen them

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Interesting why this issue is so important these days...

The world is turning to a polluted, impoverished war-torn shithole by the day, greedy businesses find new and new ways to rob and exploit you, world's ecosystems are slowly nearing extinction and resources ominously approach depletion, and yet here we are, discussing whether it's right or wrong for two guys to fuck each other in the ass..

If I was a politician, I couldn't help but smile at how easily the masses are divided and set upon each other. Divide and conquer indeed...

But you see, this is one of those issues where you have the majority who don't care if one guy wants to fuck another in the ass, and a small, vocal minority who scream they shouldn't be allowed to. Homosexuality isn't a big deal to anyone but that small minority, some of whom might be gay themselves.

[The Nuclear Fist]

*Goes on a rant* Laundrysexuality is evil! Die! Evil! Evil!!!! Gaaah. [/sarcasm]

On another note, very good point

*stops*

Let's. . . explore this little gem, shall we?

There actually is a fetish in which people are aroused by clothing, and various objects dealing with it. The sex shop I work at has products that cater to this specific fetish. People I've spoken with have stated they have this fetish, and are only attracted to things fitting this fetish. To put it crudely, 'laundrysexuality' exists.

It cannot produce offspring, and is considered by mainstream society to be 'wrong'. And it is considered by a lot of the religious people who've vandalised and complained to the shop to be 'abhorrent' and 'wrong'.

By your own reasons for hating homosexuality, why don't you hate this particular sexuality? Does it not contradict the 'natural order', as you so put it? Or do you simply have a hard on for hating homosexuals?

[Coffee Cakes]

I've been waiting for a response from Drac on 2 of my posts. Good luck. He ain't man enough to answer.

Which 2? Im trying to keep up with alot of posts. And Ive answered direct questions when Ive seen them

I'll repost them for you.

[Pauper Kings]

/quote]


Wait. . . how do homosexuals marrying each other and adopting infringe upon your rights?

Do the children they adopt get a voice in whether they want to be adopted by fecal-philes or carpet-munchers? No, of course not and nobody knows for certain how those children may feel about it in the long run, but it's always okay to experiment with peoples' lives and futures. Don't bother with dragging up some study on the positive effects of adoption by homosexuals. Researchers can always find what they need to find when they set the parameters solely.

[Draconian Races]

*Goes on a rant* Laundrysexuality is evil! Die! Evil! Evil!!!! Gaaah. [/sarcasm]

On another note, very good point

*stops*

Let's. . . explore this little gem, shall we?

There actually is a fetish in which people are aroused by clothing, and various objects dealing with it. The sex shop I work at has products that cater to this specific fetish. People I've spoken with have stated they have this fetish, and are only attracted to things fitting this fetish. To put it crudely, 'laundrysexuality' exists.

It cannot produce offspring, and is considered by mainstream society to be 'wrong'. And it is considered by a lot of the religious people who've vandalised and complained to the shop to be 'abhorrent' and 'wrong'.

By your own reasons for hating homosexuality, why don't you hate this particular sexuality? Does it not contradict the 'natural order', as you so put it? Or do you simply have a hard on for hating homosexuals?

Depends. If said fetish helps their straight sexual relations, then no it isnt evil.

[Wikkiwallana]

Interesting why this issue is so important these days...

The world is turning to a polluted, impoverished war-torn shithole by the day, greedy businesses find new and new ways to rob and exploit you, world's ecosystems are slowly nearing extinction and resources ominously approach depletion, and yet here we are, discussing whether it's right or wrong for two guys to fuck each other in the ass..

If I was a politician, I couldn't help but smile at how easily the masses are divided and set upon each other. Divide and conquer indeed...

It is completely possible to work on fixing more than one issue at a time. It's not like we're short on manpower.

[Draconian Races]

I dont have the right to determine who my private business serves?
So when the Tories discriminated against patriotic Americans, or when patriotic Americans discriminated agianst Tories, they all should have been jailed?

I want the right to refuse service to anyone. And I will accept others right to that.

That's what's wrong with today's society. If someone doesn't like something, they sue. We ought to bring back rapier duels at dusk.

Agreed. Dueling shouldnt have been outlawed before.

>Implying gay "re-education" works
>mfw
>

Ah, yes, punishing people for things beyond their control. Much like we send kids to jail when their fathers commit murder, steal, etc. Oh wait.

Well put. It's beyond me how somebody could support punishing people for things out of their control.

As Ive said before, they can choose not to hold hands with the same gender, cuddle with them, have 'relations' with them. That is perfectly in their control. Hence why I believe I should be allowed to refuse service based on it.