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for a long time playing this game i thought maybe my veiws were communist but if you look at what i says in the dictionary
"Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
now then i dont know about you but i most certenly fit this description and i most certenly do nit have a planed economy so there

You spell like one, so yes.

you and half the other people on this forum...

You may be a comunist. But you are certainly not a communist. The definition you are using is non standard and totally wrong.

Communism: Stateless, classless society where the means of production are owned by the people.

How the hell am I supposed to tell from a badly phrased sentence? Try doing some reading that is how you tell if you agree with any ideology. I would suggest marxists.org to begin with work your way up from Marx to Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, Fidel, Ho Chi Minh, Che, etc. if you are interested in the Marxist line. There are a lot of different communist theories though.

You kinda... like... answered your own question.

And learn2spell.

Natapoc wrote:You may be a comunist. But you are certainly not a communist. The definition you are using is non standard and totally wrong.

Communism: Stateless, classless society where the means of production are owned by the people.

The what do you call North Korea, USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc? Those sure as hell do not fit that description.

The Truth and Light wrote:

Natapoc wrote:You may be a comunist. But you are certainly not a communist. The definition you are using is non standard and totally wrong.

Communism: Stateless, classless society where the means of production are owned by the people.

The what do you call North Korea, USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc? Those sure as hell do not fit that description.

They were Socialist or State Capitalist. Also Juche isn't even Marxist.

Mussoliniopoli wrote:

The Truth and Light wrote:The what do you call North Korea, USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc? Those sure as hell do not fit that description.

They were Socialist or State Capitalist. Also Juche isn't even Marxist.

Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned and controlled co-operatively, or a political philosophy advocating such a system.

Then some may fit.

State capitalism has various different meanings, but is usually described as a society wherein the productive forces are controlled and directed by the state in a capitalist manner, even if such a society calls itself socialist.

Now this, friends, is a contradiction were I to ever see one.

The Truth and Light wrote:

Mussoliniopoli wrote:They were Socialist or State Capitalist. Also Juche isn't even Marxist.

Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned and controlled co-operatively, or a political philosophy advocating such a system.

Then some may fit.

State capitalism has various different meanings, but is usually described as a society wherein the productive forces are controlled and directed by the state in a capitalist manner, even if such a society calls itself socialist.

Now this, friends, is a contradiction were I to ever see one.

Take it up Lenin and the Bolsheviks I didn't coin the term.

Chunc wrote:You spell like one, so yes.

Now that's a bit unfair. Say what you like about commies, but bad spellers they usually aren't.

Mussoliniopoli wrote:

The Truth and Light wrote:Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned and controlled co-operatively, or a political philosophy advocating such a system.

Then some may fit.

State capitalism has various different meanings, but is usually described as a society wherein the productive forces are controlled and directed by the state in a capitalist manner, even if such a society calls itself socialist.

Now this, friends, is a contradiction were I to ever see one.

Take it up Lenin and the Bolsheviks I didn't coin the term.

Then I will not stop until a more proper term is coined.

My friend, Communism cannot begin to be defined in your dictionary. There are a plethora of various theories and ideas. So I feel you may have to be more specific...

Signoi wrote:for a long time playing this game i thought maybe my veiws were communist but if you look at what i says in the dictionary
"Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
now then i dont know about you but i most certenly fit this description and i most certenly do nit have a planed economy so there

If you have state owned industry, you'd be a socialist, but not necessarily a communist.

Signoi wrote:for a long time playing this game i thought maybe my veiws were communist but if you look at what i says in the dictionary
"Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
now then i dont know about you but i most certenly fit this description and i most certenly do nit have a planed economy so there

Your dictionary is wrong...also...can you please re-write your post with a spell check...and what your views are so people can actually see if your views are communist.
Also: Use Google's Chrome internet browser. It has an in-built spell checker. You might find it useful.

Lomenore wrote:

Signoi wrote:for a long time playing this game i thought maybe my veiws were communist but if you look at what i says in the dictionary
"Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
now then i dont know about you but i most certenly fit this description and i most certenly do nit have a planed economy so there

If you have state owned industry, you'd be a socialist, but not necessarily a communist.

if you have a state you are not communist.

Natapoc wrote:

Lomenore wrote:
If you have state owned industry, you'd be a socialist, but not necessarily a communist.

if you have a state you are not communist.

So would you say communism is compatible with anarchy?

Natapoc wrote:
if you have a state you are not communist.

Ah, but then again, what of council communism and Leninism and such. The lack of a state is going into the realms of Anarchism and Libertaian Socialism. Communism, by definition, has communes, ruled by the people. The communes, in turn, make up a state. It very much depends on one's ideology.

The Truth and Light wrote:

Natapoc wrote:
if you have a state you are not communist.

So would you say communism is compatible with anarchy?

Communism and anarchy; same unachievable end, different impractical means.

Natapoc wrote:

Lomenore wrote:
If you have state owned industry, you'd be a socialist, but not necessarily a communist.

if you have a state you are not communist.

Not true Communists believe you need a transition State thus Socialism in order to begin the transition to communism.

Strathy wrote:

Natapoc wrote:
if you have a state you are not communist.

Ah, but then again, what of council communism and Leninism and such. The lack of a state is going into the realms of Anarchism and Libertaian Socialism. Communism, by definition, has communes, ruled by the people. The communes, in turn, make up a state. It very much depends on one's ideology.

No. Communism is a stateless classless society even according to Marxists, Leninists, and council communists.

Mussoliniopoli wrote:

Natapoc wrote:
if you have a state you are not communist.

Not true Communists believe you need a transition State thus Socialism in order to begin the transition to communism.

This does not contradict what I said in any way.

Natapoc wrote:

Strathy wrote:

Classless yes, but the vanguard party idea established by Lenin and Trotsky meant that a state had to be present.

Natapoc wrote:

Mussoliniopoli wrote:Not true Communists believe you need a transition State thus Socialism in order to begin the transition to communism.

This does not contradict what I said in any way.

Yes it does you are saying if you have a Socialist State thus beginning the transition you can't be a communist. Either you are being purposefully thick or you are unfamiliar with English.

Mussoliniopoli wrote:

Natapoc wrote:
This does not contradict what I said in any way.

Yes it does you are saying if you have a Socialist State thus beginning the transition you can't be a communist. Either you are being purposefully thick or unfamiliar with English.

Option 3: both.