am i comunist

[Mature Related]

this dictionary ofcourse : http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism the one that has the most popular definitions.

[Mercia-Northumbria]

a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."

What kind of definition is that? Just because that is what happened in the USSR doesn't mean that "a single authoritarian party holds power and only claims to make progress blah blah blah" is what communist theory is all about.

[Herrebrugh]

this dictionary ofcourse : http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism the one that has the most popular definitions.

Wow. The first thing I saw when entering the Socialism page was Hitler O.o

Those guys are so incredibly smart

[The Truth and Light]

this dictionary ofcourse : http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism the one that has the most popular definitions.

Wow.

Conservapedia.

That's not biased at all!

[Threlizdun]

Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Juche, Titoism, Castroism and other such ideologies are not communist

I'm pretty sure Juche isn't and I'm not sure if Titoism is. However, the rest, as disagreeable as they are, still have communism as the end goal and are thus communist.

They can represent a communist ideology, but are not communist in the since of how their society actually functions. However, their ideas of the vanguard party, educated elite running the affairs of the nation, and slaughtering those that disagree with them is pretty far from the goals of communism. Basically Leninism is the only ideology on that list that can sometimes meet those requirements though, even though I still never consider it communist myself, though the others all rejected that communism was possible, and instead said the state needed to exist forever to keep socialism.

[New Rogernomics]

this dictionary ofcourse : http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism the one that has the most popular definitions.

Wow.

Conservapedia.

That's not biased at all!

It lowers you're IQ if you read it for more than 5 minutes.

[Unilisia]

Communism is perfect in writing, but impossible in practice. So you could be communist in writing, not in reality, which you would only be capable of vouching for.

[Agritum]

Communism is perfect in writing, but impossible in practice. So you could be communist in writing, not in reality, which you would only be capable of vouching for.

I would add that a REAL communist state never existed,since Communism is stateless.

[New Rogernomics]

Communism is perfect in writing, but impossible in practice. So you could be communist in writing, not in reality, which you would only be capable of vouching for.

I would add that a REAL communist state never existed,since Communism is stateless.

Anarchist Communism is stateless, traditional Communism aspires to a stateless society but does not put into practice aka Soviet Russia, Communist Cuba, and Communist China (before the 1970s reforms).

[Agritum]

I would add that a REAL communist state never existed,since Communism is stateless.

Anarchist Communism is stateless, traditional Communism aspires to a stateless society but does not put into practice aka Soviet Russia, Communist Cuba, and Communist China (before the 1970s reforms).

of traditional communism,you mean the outdated marxist inspired communism?

[Meryuma]

I'm pretty sure Juche isn't and I'm not sure if Titoism is. However, the rest, as disagreeable as they are, still have communism as the end goal and are thus communist.

They can represent a communist ideology, but are not communist in the since of how their society actually functions. However, their ideas of the vanguard party, educated elite running the affairs of the nation, and slaughtering those that disagree with them is pretty far from the goals of communism. Basically Leninism is the only ideology on that list that can sometimes meet those requirements though, even though I still never consider it communist myself, though the others all rejected that communism was possible, and instead said the state needed to exist forever to keep socialism.

Actually, all the Leninist ideologies think they're working towards communism.

[New Rogernomics]

Anarchist Communism is stateless, traditional Communism aspires to a stateless society but does not put into practice aka Soviet Russia, Communist Cuba, and Communist China (before the 1970s reforms).

of traditional communism,you mean the outdated marxist inspired communism?

Yep.

[Greater Americania]

They can represent a communist ideology, but are not communist in the since of how their society actually functions. However, their ideas of the vanguard party, educated elite running the affairs of the nation, and slaughtering those that disagree with them is pretty far from the goals of communism. Basically Leninism is the only ideology on that list that can sometimes meet those requirements though, even though I still never consider it communist myself, though the others all rejected that communism was possible, and instead said the state needed to exist forever to keep socialism.

Where do you leftists come up with this? Communism is not a status. It is not something to "work towards". The moment you believe in it, you are Communist. The moment a nation comes under the power of those who believe in Communism, the nation becomes Communist. Smashing enemies of the "proletariat revolution" was always a goal of Communists. Leninists just understood that if they immediately dissolved the state and class differences, their society would collapse because it was not ready for that. Thus, Communist Totalitarianism was born.

These ideas that Communism has never been practiced are nothing more that neo-leftist propaganda, aimed at both granting acceptance to Communism in modern society, and in attempting to bridge the gap between Socialism and moderate liberalism. They have no basis in fact or historical Communist theory. They are a a mixture of Western individualism and traditional Marxism.

[Natapoc]

I would add that a REAL communist state never existed,since Communism is stateless.

Anarchist Communism is stateless, traditional Communism aspires to a stateless society but does not put into practice aka Soviet Russia, Communist Cuba, and Communist China (before the 1970s reforms).

Soviet russia called themselves socialist.
Cuba has never called themselves communist but rather socialist.
China has never called themselves communist but rather socialist.

Get the pattern? When people say "Communist Cuba" they are doing so incorrectly. I realize that your news media and especially talk show hosts will say things like that.

They are wrong. They are often wrong.

[New Rogernomics]

Anarchist Communism is stateless, traditional Communism aspires to a stateless society but does not put into practice aka Soviet Russia, Communist Cuba, and Communist China (before the 1970s reforms).

Soviet russia called themselves socialist.
Cuba has never called themselves communist but rather socialist.
China has never called themselves communist but rather socialist.

Get the pattern? When people say "Communist Cuba" they are doing so incorrectly. I realize that your news media and especially talk show hosts will say things like that.

They are wrong. They are often wrong.

A country can be communist and implement socialist policies, just as a social-democratic country can implement capitalist policies, and I don't live in the US so its your media and talk show hosts.

[Risna]

for a long time playing this game i thought maybe my veiws were communist but if you look at what i says in the dictionary
"Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
now then i dont know about you but i most certenly fit this description and i most certenly do nit have a planed economy so there

congratulations you'r a communist! You get a cookie!
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[New Huxlian Orwell]

Lol, Communism. Bunch of repressed Teenagers hoping to achieve something that is beyond their grasps, or they just like forced labor, either works.

Shouldn't you be putting "Proudly not donating one cent to Joplin, Mo" in your sig now? You're certainly not suited for political conversation.

[GeneralHaNor]

Of course you are correct that not all communism is marxism. For example I'm not a marxist.

However all forms of communism are stateless and classless and have any means of production in common ownership.

If you disagree please find any recognized communist philosopher who argues differently. You will find that the vast majority of literature uses communism strictly in the sense of the word I've used here.

Actually I think you'll find the majority of literature defines communism as Pol Potism, Leninism, Maoism, Jungism, etc. All of it from recognized right-wing philospohers.

There's your problem right there

The Right is not allowed to define terms that define the left., Banana =/= Shit, simply because you say so, or because that is sometimes what happens to Banana's

[Natapoc]

Soviet russia called themselves socialist.
Cuba has never called themselves communist but rather socialist.
China has never called themselves communist but rather socialist.

Get the pattern? When people say "Communist Cuba" they are doing so incorrectly. I realize that your news media and especially talk show hosts will say things like that.

They are wrong. They are often wrong.

A country can be communist and implement socialist policies, just as a social-democratic country can implement capitalist policies, and I don't live in the US so its your media and talk show hosts.

Not my media. No. A state cannot by definition be communist. You can say otherwise all you like but you will be wrong every time because communism is defined as a stateless classless society and every state that has claimed to aspire to the goal of communism understood this and thus never called their state communist.

[GeneralHaNor]

A country can be communist and implement socialist policies, just as a social-democratic country can implement capitalist policies, and I don't live in the US so its your media and talk show hosts.

Not my media. No. A state cannot by definition be communist. You can say otherwise all you like but you will be wrong every time because communism is defined as a stateless classless society and every state that has claimed to aspire to the goal of communism understood this and thus never called their state communist.

However (devil's advocate time) they were ran by parties that called themselves Communist

[New Huxlian Orwell]

Actually I think you'll find the majority of literature defines communism as Pol Potism, Leninism, Maoism, Jungism, etc. All of it from recognized right-wing philospohers.

There's your problem right there

The Right is not allowed to define terms that define the left., Banana =/= Shit, simply because you say so, or because that is sometimes what happens to Banana's

Well, they certainly try to. They also like to throw around huge numbers of supposed dead killed by communism, without any urge to cite any kind of proof.

[GeneralHaNor]

There's your problem right there

The Right is not allowed to define terms that define the left., Banana =/= Shit, simply because you say so, or because that is sometimes what happens to Banana's

Well, they certainly try to. They also like to throw around huge numbers of supposed dead killed by communism, without any urge to cite any kind of proof.

Meh, those deaths did happen, and in quite large numbers, by states that aspired to those ideals, It should at least serve as a lesson of sorts

[New Huxlian Orwell]

Not my media. No. A state cannot by definition be communist. You can say otherwise all you like but you will be wrong every time because communism is defined as a stateless classless society and every state that has claimed to aspire to the goal of communism understood this and thus never called their state communist.

However (devil's advocate time) they were ran by parties that called themselves Communist

If a country cannot call itself communist because it has not yet achieved communism, then there are no communists in the world because they do not live in a communist society. The point is they are trying to achieve communism.

[New Huxlian Orwell]

Well, they certainly try to. They also like to throw around huge numbers of supposed dead killed by communism, without any urge to cite any kind of proof.

Meh, those deaths did happen, and in quite large numbers, by states that aspired to those ideals, It should at least serve as a lesson of sorts

Some of them did, some of them didn't. For example, blaming a famine all on a government is ridiculous. The government doesn't control the damn weather. The numbers are made up, and used as a bludgeon for those who are unable to actually argue political theory.

[GeneralHaNor]

However (devil's advocate time) they were ran by parties that called themselves Communist

If a country cannot call itself communist because it has not yet achieved communism, then there are no communists in the world because they do not live in a communist society. The point is they are trying to achieve communism.

By your logic, Obama is White
I happen to agree