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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 26, 2011 10:05 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:So self-defense equals violent revolution now?
:rofl:

The revolution=violence. Opposing the revolution with violence would be self-defense. You have it backwards.

Making up our own definitions, are we? Rather shoddy debate tactics.
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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 26, 2011 10:05 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:So self-defense equals violent revolution now?
:rofl:

The revolution=violence. Opposing the revolution with violence would be self-defense. You have it backwards.

Then I suppose you should move to Great Britain and become a subject of the British Crown, because revolution is violent and illegitimate.
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Mussoliniopoli
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Thu May 26, 2011 10:06 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:So self-defense equals violent revolution now?
:rofl:

The revolution=violence. Opposing the revolution with violence would be self-defense. You have it backwards.

Overthrowing ones Masters is no more violent then sweeping dust. If the people in power want to resist then it leads to violence. Russia is a perfect example of this as it wasn't the communists who did Bloody Sunday or caused the Potemkin to fire into the government buildings.
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Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62
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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Thu May 26, 2011 10:11 pm

Economic Left/Right: -3.00 (or .45, depending on my responses to a couple issues I reject as false dichotomies)
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15

However, I agree with Kevin Carson's analysis of the quiz.

Speaking of which, my C4SS quiz result:

83% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
88% Anarchist (Anarchist / Statist)
96% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
100% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
93% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


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Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



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Kwewu
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Postby Kwewu » Thu May 26, 2011 10:14 pm


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Wienholdland
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Postby Wienholdland » Thu May 26, 2011 10:16 pm

Mussoliniopoli wrote:
Wienholdland wrote: :rofl:

The revolution=violence. Opposing the revolution with violence would be self-defense. You have it backwards.

Overthrowing ones Masters is no more violent then sweeping dust. If the people in power want to resist then it leads to violence. Russia is a perfect example of this as it wasn't the communists who did Bloody Sunday or caused the Potemkin to fire into the government buildings.
That's your opinion, and the serfdom in America is nothing compared to how bad it was in pre-1917 Russia.

A revolution involving theft on an unprecedented scale is a violent revolution, whether you like the classification or not.

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 26, 2011 10:17 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:Overthrowing ones Masters is no more violent then sweeping dust. If the people in power want to resist then it leads to violence. Russia is a perfect example of this as it wasn't the communists who did Bloody Sunday or caused the Potemkin to fire into the government buildings.
That's your opinion, and the serfdom in America is nothing compared to how bad it was in pre-1917 Russia.

A revolution involving theft on an unprecedented scale is a violent revolution, whether you like the classification or not.

The existing regime of class dictatorship is also incredibly violent to the subject classes.
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Mussoliniopoli
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Thu May 26, 2011 10:19 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Wienholdland wrote:That's your opinion, and the serfdom in America is nothing compared to how bad it was in pre-1917 Russia.

A revolution involving theft on an unprecedented scale is a violent revolution, whether you like the classification or not.

The existing regime of class dictatorship is also incredibly violent to the subject classes.

Meh he probably considers class warfare and violence against the Russian Peasantry and Proletariat as justified.
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Meowfoundland
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Postby Meowfoundland » Thu May 26, 2011 10:31 pm

It's in my signature.
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Episarta
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Postby Episarta » Thu May 26, 2011 10:32 pm

Well I guess this is how I think. I expected it to say I was more social libertarian than that.
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90
Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79
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Realtas
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Postby Realtas » Thu May 26, 2011 10:45 pm

Bunch of communists and socialists here, hmm?

Economic Left/Right: 3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33

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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Thu May 26, 2011 10:47 pm

-7.12, -6.15.

Which is odd because I took this less than a week ago and got -3 something, -4 something.

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Postby Natapoc » Thu May 26, 2011 10:50 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers

in what way?
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Lylybium
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Postby Lylybium » Thu May 26, 2011 10:53 pm

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Natapoc
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Postby Natapoc » Thu May 26, 2011 10:55 pm

Meryuma wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.00 (or .45, depending on my responses to a couple issues I reject as false dichotomies)
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15

However, I agree with Kevin Carson's analysis of the quiz.

Speaking of which, my C4SS quiz result:

83% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
88% Anarchist (Anarchist / Statist)
96% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
100% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
93% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)


Where is the C4SS quiz?
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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Thu May 26, 2011 10:56 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Meryuma wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.00 (or .45, depending on my responses to a couple issues I reject as false dichotomies)
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15

However, I agree with Kevin Carson's analysis of the quiz.

Speaking of which, my C4SS quiz result:

83% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
88% Anarchist (Anarchist / Statist)
96% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
100% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
93% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)


Where is the C4SS quiz?


On C4SS, under "Find Your Philosophy".
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

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Postby Natapoc » Thu May 26, 2011 11:07 pm

Meryuma wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Where is the C4SS quiz?


On C4SS, under "Find Your Philosophy".


I don't like it so far.

For example: "You are obligated to accept someone’s positional authority only if you’ve consented to it, and even then only if that person asks you to do something that is not immoral."

Strongly disagree One is never obliged to accept anyones authority under any case regardless of any "consent"
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu May 26, 2011 11:13 pm

I got 81% Economic Leftist, 56% Anarchist, 79% Anti-Militarist, 89% Socio-Cultural Liberal, 73% Civil Libertarian according to C4SS.
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Seleucas
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Postby Seleucas » Thu May 26, 2011 11:16 pm

It's already in my sig. I think it is only appropriate that I get a 10 in terms of being economically right-wing, since I don't think the government should exist.
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The Union will instead, fall.
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Right: 10.00
Libertarian: 9.9
Non-interventionist: 10
Cultural Liberal: 6.83

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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Thu May 26, 2011 11:17 pm

Seleucas wrote:It's already in my sig. I think it is only appropriate that I get a 10 in terms of being economically right-wing, since I don't think the government should exist.


As if those things are the same...
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

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LoL island
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Postby LoL island » Thu May 26, 2011 11:20 pm

Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82

bout what i expected
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Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.77

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Neu Leonstein
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Thu May 26, 2011 11:21 pm

C4S

25% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
6% Statist (Anarchist / Statist)
46% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
85% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
73% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)

An economic leftist? Sigh, whatever.
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~ Thomas Paine

Economic Left/Right: 2.25 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Avenio
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Postby Avenio » Thu May 26, 2011 11:23 pm

On my most recent political compass results, I got;

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03


Which is interesting, because I shifted towards the centre a fair bit in both metrics. (See my sig for an older test result)

For curiosity's sake, I took the C4SS test as well;

14% Economic Leftist - (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
84% Statist - (Anarchist / Statist)
14% Militarist - (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
52% Socio-Cultural Liberal - (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
23% Civil Libertarian - (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)


An interesting test, but there were more than a few badly-worded questions that were more than a little biased. Interesting that they placed me much closer to the centre economically than other tests, and that I was much closer to the civil authoritarian side than I previously had thought I would be. Not sure how accurate it is, but intriguing nonetheless.
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Beinai
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Postby Beinai » Thu May 26, 2011 11:26 pm

Check the spoiler in the sig...effort.

Fine.
Economic: Left/Right: -5.75
Social: Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
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Wolfmanne
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Postby Wolfmanne » Thu May 26, 2011 11:27 pm

It's in my signature. I'm basically a Classical liberal/Libertarian kind of level. However I would also say I'm Christian-left.
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