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New Asgariath
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Soviet Haaregrad
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu May 26, 2011 8:33 pm

Last I checked I was -7/-7 or so.

Edit: Economic Left/Right: -8.25, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46, not too far off from before.
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Neu Leonstein
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Thu May 26, 2011 8:46 pm

You know, I take issue with this test. It's widely used, and I used to check my own scores, but really...

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.
What does this question even mean? I mean, yes, it should definitely serve humanity. And there are plenty of instances when corporations (or anybody, in fact) have interests not aligned with others. And there are instances when corporations should be prevented from doing whatever they want, since they may well violate the rights (including property rights) of others. But if I click the corresponding button, despite having made a perfectly reasonable "capitalist" argument, I will get "left" points on the economic axis.

Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.
Ok, a look at a first year economic textbook would throw that out of the window. You can't control one without controlling the other. Hell, it's arguable that you can even do so in the short run, what with the way financial markets and consumer behaviour are interlinked these days. So the question is both nonsensical and offers no answers to the left/right position of someone.

Thanks to questions like that, I get a score of

Economic Left/Right: 5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

Meaningless.
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Economic Left/Right: 2.25 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Knezoneiroi
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Postby Knezoneiroi » Thu May 26, 2011 8:50 pm

I got -1.62,-4.67. This score is significantly more libertarian than my previous scores, but tests like this can not analyse your beliefs with complete accuracy.

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Breitkreuzonia
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Postby Breitkreuzonia » Thu May 26, 2011 9:13 pm

Here is where I am:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=8.00&soc=0.00

Pretty awesome if do say so myself
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Farnhamia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 26, 2011 9:33 pm

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46

Meh. Given I don't recall any previous score, it's hard to judge. I think there should be a "Don't know or don't care" option on the quiz, by the way.
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Mushet
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Mushet » Thu May 26, 2011 9:39 pm

Good to take these periodically

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31

I think I'm more left-libertarian now, I'd thought I'd turn out a bit more to the right, but still in the green square
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Soviet Haaregrad
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu May 26, 2011 9:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46

Meh. Given I don't recall any previous score, it's hard to judge. I think there should be a "Don't know or don't care" option on the quiz, by the way.


Or even a 'no opinion, lack enough information to fully form an opinion or my opinion is too nuanced for any of the options to apply' button.
I reserve the right to ignore wank, furries/scalies, elves, magic, other fantasy vermin & absurd populations. Haters gonna hate.
RP Population: 1760//76 million//1920 104 million//1960 209 million//1992 238 million
81% Economic Leftist, 56% Anarchist, 79% Anti-Militarist, 89% Socio-Cultural Liberal, 73% Civil Libertarian
NSG Sodomy Club, CSO
Imperial Wizard of the NS Knights of Ordo Logica
Privatization of collectively owned property is theft.
The Confederacy of Independent Socialist Republics
FACTBOOK
ART


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Farnhamia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 26, 2011 9:41 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46

Meh. Given I don't recall any previous score, it's hard to judge. I think there should be a "Don't know or don't care" option on the quiz, by the way.


Or even a 'no opinion, lack enough information to fully form an opinion or my opinion is too nuanced for any of the options to apply' button.

Exactly.
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 26, 2011 9:52 pm

The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers
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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 26, 2011 9:54 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers

I thought that was how the von Mises/Rothbard An-Caps did, since they don't actually use real numbers for anything.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Wienholdland
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Postby Wienholdland » Thu May 26, 2011 9:55 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers
I suppose it's impossible to determine the end result of the violent revolution you clamor for.

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ALMF
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Founded: Jun 04, 2010
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Postby ALMF » Thu May 26, 2011 9:56 pm

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67
a left social libertarian (all on a scale 0-10 with a direction: 0 centrist 10 extreme)
Left over right: 5.99
Libertarian over authoritarian: 4.2,
non-interventionist over neo-con: 5.14
Cultural liberal over cultural conservative: 7.6

You are a cosmopolitan Social Democrat. 16 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 5 percent are more extremist than you.

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The Antarctic Lands
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Founded: Feb 19, 2010
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Postby The Antarctic Lands » Thu May 26, 2011 9:56 pm

I was at the bottom left in January. I don't think my score has changed in a while.
My political compass as of June 2010:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

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Farnhamia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 26, 2011 9:56 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers
I suppose it's impossible to determine the end result of the violent revolution you clamor for.

When did Trots ever "clamor" for violent revolution?
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 26, 2011 9:56 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers

I thought that was how the von Mises/Rothbard An-Caps did, since they don't actually use real numbers for anything.

Lolololol...
Wienholdland wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The only way I fit on a Cartesian coordinate grid for the political spectrum requires the use of imaginary numbers
I suppose it's impossible to determine the end result of the violent revolution you clamor for.

Did I wrong you in another life or something?

*Sigh* math humor wasted on the philistine
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The Antarctic Lands
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Postby The Antarctic Lands » Thu May 26, 2011 9:58 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Wienholdland wrote:I suppose it's impossible to determine the end result of the violent revolution you clamor for.

When did Trots ever "clamor" for violent revolution?

Wasn't Trotsky a violent revolutionist?
My political compass as of June 2010:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 26, 2011 10:00 pm

The Antarctic Lands wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:When did Trots ever "clamor" for violent revolution?

Wasn't Trotsky a violent revolutionist?

I am not Lev Bronstein, alias Leon Trotsky, so that point is moot. Consider him the beta version if it helps.
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"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga

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Wienholdland
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Postby Wienholdland » Thu May 26, 2011 10:00 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Wienholdland wrote:I suppose it's impossible to determine the end result of the violent revolution you clamor for.

When did Trots ever "clamor" for violent revolution?


Trotskylvania wrote:
Wienholdland wrote:Oh OK, so basically you'd support killing and robbing "the rich" as long as it's done by "the poor". I think I understand now. So I guess you'd need government out of the way for that. Until of course, the thieves run out of stolen wealth and need capitalism to regenerate it. :rofl:
Only those who oppose the revolution with violence will have to fear for their lives.

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 26, 2011 10:01 pm

So self-defense equals violent revolution now?
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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 26, 2011 10:03 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:So self-defense equals violent revolution now?

Apparently.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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The Antarctic Lands
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Postby The Antarctic Lands » Thu May 26, 2011 10:03 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
The Antarctic Lands wrote:Wasn't Trotsky a violent revolutionist?

I am not Lev Bronstein, alias Leon Trotsky, so that point is moot. Consider him the beta version if it helps.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Trotsky was in support of world revolution. Guess not.
My political compass as of June 2010:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

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Mussoliniopoli
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Thu May 26, 2011 10:04 pm

Usually a -9 or -8 on the Left and a 4 or 5 on the Authoritarian. Doesn't mean much to me other then I am Authoritarian and Anti-Capitalist. Which I already knew.
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Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62
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Wienholdland
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Postby Wienholdland » Thu May 26, 2011 10:04 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:So self-defense equals violent revolution now?
:rofl:

The revolution=violence. Opposing the revolution with violence would be self-defense. You have it backwards.

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Mussoliniopoli
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Thu May 26, 2011 10:05 pm

The Antarctic Lands wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:I am not Lev Bronstein, alias Leon Trotsky, so that point is moot. Consider him the beta version if it helps.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Trotsky was in support of world revolution. Guess not.

He was as are all communists the disagreement is in how it will be achieved.
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