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by Ceannairceach » Wed May 25, 2011 6:17 pm
Beldonia wrote:It's a nice thought in theory.....but I just don't know. Generally, if a child has a penis, it's male. A vagina, female. The chance of he/she being a transgender is so unlikely, they should just tell the gender. It's so unlikely that it would be better if the real gender would be told and attention would be avoided. If the unlikely happens and it is transgendered, then it's no big deal if he/she was called what he/she was born as in the early stages of life.
by Lackadaisical2 » Wed May 25, 2011 6:17 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:I like it, actually. Allow the child to decide if he or she identifies with whatever gender they choose. A rather nice option.
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by Ceannairceach » Wed May 25, 2011 6:18 pm
Tergnitz wrote:Ha, that was the same four replies in so many seconds.
No, you are all right; I meant to say sex is a physical fact, which is arguably a large determinant in gender perception in Western society.
by Rentusera » Wed May 25, 2011 6:19 pm
by GBeckastania » Wed May 25, 2011 6:19 pm
Takaram wrote:GBeckastania wrote:Whether or not you tell the child its gender, it will hormonally feel the same way. You don't "decide" if your a boy or a girl, you have a certain biological system which makes you a boy or girl. People who have transgender surgeries and the such do so because they don't feel comfortable in their body, which is something you know at heart, you don't just "decide" it.
That's the thing, though. They're letting the child "decide" on its own, rather than telling it.
by Takaram » Wed May 25, 2011 6:19 pm
Tergnitz wrote:Ha, that was the same four replies in so many seconds.
No, you are all right; I meant to say sex is a physical fact, which is arguably a large determinant in gender perception in Western society.
by RhynoD » Wed May 25, 2011 6:19 pm
Takaram wrote:GBeckastania wrote:Whether or not you tell the child its gender, it will hormonally feel the same way. You don't "decide" if your a boy or a girl, you have a certain biological system which makes you a boy or girl. People who have transgender surgeries and the such do so because they don't feel comfortable in their body, which is something you know at heart, you don't just "decide" it.
That's the thing, though. They're letting the child "decide" on its own, rather than telling it.
Sarkhaan wrote:This. And just about everything else RhynoD said.
by Ceannairceach » Wed May 25, 2011 6:20 pm
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by Takaram » Wed May 25, 2011 6:21 pm
GBeckastania wrote:Takaram wrote:
That's the thing, though. They're letting the child "decide" on its own, rather than telling it.
I understand the concept of it, the problem is it will know. You have a tendency to know your own body, you don't choose it. And, at some point, whether the parents like it, the kid will learn the difference between a boy and girl.
by Ceannairceach » Wed May 25, 2011 6:21 pm
RhynoD wrote:Takaram wrote:
That's the thing, though. They're letting the child "decide" on its own, rather than telling it.
I think you're missing the point. They're not letting him/her "decide" anything, they're just keeping him/her as an androgynous mess and forbidding him/her from expressing his/her gender.
by Czardas » Wed May 25, 2011 6:21 pm
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by Kralcdivad » Wed May 25, 2011 6:21 pm
by Reame » Wed May 25, 2011 6:22 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:So now the deliberate attempt to not impose values on a child constitutes an "aggressive progressive political opinion"?
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by Ceannairceach » Wed May 25, 2011 6:22 pm
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by Takaram » Wed May 25, 2011 6:22 pm
RhynoD wrote:Takaram wrote:
That's the thing, though. They're letting the child "decide" on its own, rather than telling it.
I think you're missing the point. They're not letting him/her "decide" anything, they're just keeping him/her as an androgynous mess and forbidding him/her from expressing his/her gender.
by Trotskylvania » Wed May 25, 2011 6:23 pm
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by RhynoD » Wed May 25, 2011 6:23 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:RhynoD wrote:I think you're missing the point. They're not letting him/her "decide" anything, they're just keeping him/her as an androgynous mess and forbidding him/her from expressing his/her gender.
Hardly; They are going to, most likely, accept whatever gender he or she identifies as.
Sarkhaan wrote:This. And just about everything else RhynoD said.
by Rentusera » Wed May 25, 2011 6:23 pm
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by Tergnitz » Wed May 25, 2011 6:24 pm
Takaram wrote:GBeckastania wrote:I understand the concept of it, the problem is it will know. You have a tendency to know your own body, you don't choose it. And, at some point, whether the parents like it, the kid will learn the difference between a boy and girl.
But that doesn't mean that they will act like a boy or girl. If the child doesn't feel like a girl but is biologically a girl, then he will act like a boy.
by Ceannairceach » Wed May 25, 2011 6:24 pm
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