This woman thinks all men support rape

[Shaoyuan]

Please name just one country where women have it better than men. Just one.

How about the US for one? It's not perfect for either sex but if you're a female parent or indeed criminal you'll have a much easier time in the justice system than your male equivalent. And women get paid less because they work less hours, so don't even bring it up. Women have a right to an abortion, whereas the man doesn't get a say either way. I'm sorry if you were raped but I don't think that really happens to very many people at all.

[Samuraikoku]

Please name just one country where women have it better than men. Just one.

How about the US for one? It's not perfect for either sex but if you're a female parent or indeed criminal you'll have a much easier time in the justice system than your male equivalent. And women get paid less because they work less hours, so don't even bring it up. Women have a right to an abortion, whereas the man doesn't get a say either way. I'm sorry if you were raped but I don't think that really happens to very many people at all.

Keep going. The more you speak, the more you demonstrate her point to be right.

[Shaoyuan]

What are you, a cheerleader?

[Samuraikoku]

What are you, a cheerleader?

Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. You'd think that her experience would give you some thought on how you should address this topic in front of her.

[Shaoyuan]

She's not being particularly polite to me either, why should I not say what I think just because she's had bad things happen to her?

[Samuraikoku]

You cannot seriously advocate that idea that men are "oppressed". And you're hearing this from a man.

[Luciratus]

Ah feminists.

We need a men's rights group at this stage, it's getting ridiculous.

ROFLMAO

Yeah, men have been so oppressed.

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, which includes crimes that were not reported to the police, 232,960 women in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006. That's more than 600 women every day.

99% of all rapists are male. Men perpetrate the majority of violent acts against women. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, more than 260,000 rapes or sexual assaults occurred in 2000; 246,180 of them occurred among females and 14,770, among males.

A 2005 World Health Organization study reported that nearly one third of Ethiopian women had been physically forced by a partner to have sex against their will within the 12 months prior to the study.

Somewhere in America a woman is battered, usually by her intimate partner, every 15 seconds.

At least 60 million girls who would otherwise be expected to be alive are "missing" from various populations, mostly in Asia, as a result of sex-selective abortions, infanticide or neglect.

So-called "honour killings" take the lives of thousands of young women every year, mainly in North Africa, Western Asia and parts of South Asia.

One in three women has been beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime.

On average, more than three women a day are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in the United States.

4 million women and girls are trafficked annually. An estimated one million children, mostly girls, enter the sex trade each year.


Intimate partner violence is the leading cause of injury to women. It affects 1-3 million women a year in the U.S., making it more common than muggings, stranger rapes and car accidents combined.

And know what- most of this shit I didn't even have to look up. I'm quite familiar with the statistics. Maybe having been both a victim of molestation at nine, and then two rapes as a teen, make the numbers stick in my head. Another fact- women sexually abused as a child are at higher risk of additional sexual assualts later in life.

So please go on about how men have to be defended from evil, equality seeking females. Yes, I believe the blogger in the OP is a bit of a nut. But so is anyone who thinks men are the ones getting a raw deal.

The statistics are sickening, I concur. However, I believe that a societal revolution more profound, more ubiquitous, and more fundamental than the one which occured in the sixties is necessary to ameliorate the plights of not only women but all people. I wouldn't consider myself a Feminist. If labelled, I would prefer to be called a Humanist. Nobody should tolerate such abuses. Sometimes, I feel this sickening urge to butcher every rapist, every misogynist, every abusive partner, indiscriminately of gender. I would like to cleanse the slate of humanity, although my conceptualization of humanity is nonsensical and I believe that such a method is adversarial to my sense of morality and rather counter-productive. All the same, something should change. Why doesn't anybody seem to care? I hear more debates about abortion than about how to deal with the abuses mentioned above, even though I believe that nearly everybody would like to see it stopped. I suppose that I'm hopelessly optimistic in this case and the saddest part is that I shouldn't have to be optimistic about something like this.

[Shaoyuan]

Men aren't oppressed, then again neither are women at least in our society. So what's the big shit-fit? There are unfair things that happen to both sometimes, but it's easier to stop legal discrimination than stop rape.

[Geniasis]

Please name just one country where women have it better than men. Just one.

How about the US for one? It's not perfect for either sex but if you're a female parent or indeed criminal you'll have a much easier time in the justice system than your male equivalent. And women get paid less because they work less hours, so don't even bring it up. Women have a right to an abortion, whereas the man doesn't get a say either way. I'm sorry if you were raped but I don't think that really happens to very many people at all.

That's just not true. If a man gets pregnant he totally has a right to get an abortion.

[Samuraikoku]

Sometimes, I feel this sickening urge to butcher every rapist, every misogynist, every abusive partner, indiscriminately of gender. I would like to cleanse the slate of humanity, although my conceptualization of humanity is nonsensical and I believe that such a method is adversarial to my sense of morality and rather counter-productive.

I have a feeling that if misogynist, rapist or abuser gets their just desserts (you pick the definition to that, mine isn't exactly nice), people would think twice. That "violence breeds more violence" saying doesn't apply in domestic abuse/rape. At least for me.

[Geniasis]

Sometimes, I feel this sickening urge to butcher every rapist, every misogynist, every abusive partner, indiscriminately of gender. I would like to cleanse the slate of humanity, although my conceptualization of humanity is nonsensical and I believe that such a method is adversarial to my sense of morality and rather counter-productive.

I have a feeling that if misogynist, rapist or abuser gets their just desserts (you pick the definition to that, mine isn't exactly nice), people would think twice. That "violence breeds more violence" saying doesn't apply in domestic abuse/rape. At least for me.

Only, criminals tend to operate under the assumption that they won't get caught, if indeed they consider the issue at all.

[Samuraikoku]

Men aren't oppressed, then again neither are women at least in our society. So what's the big shit-fit? There are unfair things that happen to both sometimes, but it's easier to stop legal discrimination than stop rape.

Women get a harder deal everywhere in the world, just in lesser degrees (for example, lower pay) in some countries and in crueler degrees in others.

[Shaoyuan]

Oh sure, it would be great if we could eliminate rape and abuse in our society, but while you're off at the unrealistic goals store maybe you could pick me up an end to violent crime and a perpetual motion machine?

[Samuraikoku]

Only, criminals tend to operate under the assumption that they won't get caught, if indeed they consider the issue at all.

Obviously it is, yes. But in rape cases or domestic abuse, they don't consider the issue at all. It's something psychological, though I can't point my finger at it exactly (because I'm not a psychologist). Then, it's a matter of catching them. I will leave the rest to your imagination.

[Luciratus]

I have a feeling that if misogynist, rapist or abuser gets their just desserts (you pick the definition to that, mine isn't exactly nice), people would think twice. That "violence breeds more violence" saying doesn't apply in domestic abuse/rape. At least for me.

Only, criminals tend to operate under the assumption that they won't get caught, if indeed they consider the issue at all.

However, most would consider the possibility that they MIGHT get caught and thus likewise consider the possible penalties associated with a particular crime. Thus, an increase in the severity of a penalty may very well result in an actual statistical decrease in the number of crimes perpetrated. For example, if the penalty for driving a red light was death by guillotine, would you run a red light?

[Samuraikoku]

Oh sure, it would be great if we could eliminate rape and abuse in our society, but while you're off at the unrealistic goals store maybe you could pick me up an end to violent crime and a perpetual motion machine?

Rape and abuse can be eliminated - it's a matter of effective measures in the former and education in the latter. Easy? Of course not. But possible, yes.

[Geniasis]

Oh sure, it would be great if we could eliminate rape and abuse in our society, but while you're off at the unrealistic goals store maybe you could pick me up an end to violent crime and a perpetual motion machine?

"We can't totally eliminate it so why even bother."

With an attitude like that, I'm starting to understand why you have so much trouble "being relevant".

[Samuraikoku]

Only, criminals tend to operate under the assumption that they won't get caught, if indeed they consider the issue at all.

However, most would consider the possibility that they MIGHT get caught and thus likewise consider the possible penalties associated with a particular crime. Thus, an increase in the severity of a penalty may very well result in an actual statistical decrease in the number of crimes perpetrated. For example, if the penalty for driving a red light was death by guillotine, would you run a red light?

As an attorney I know something about this. Penalties, even though they intended to have that effect, don't really serve the purpose of dissuasion, after all there's cases like chronic criminals - CANNOT be dissuaded because they don't fear punishment - or passional criminals - are NOT dissuaded because they don't even consider punishment.

[Shaoyuan]

Don't think I said that, but all you guys are going on like "we should end domestic abuse and rape". Yeah, you can't do that. Reduce it fine, but it's stupid to just demand a thing like that, do you think lawmakers could end crime if they just thought hard and found the right wording for the next bill?

[Samuraikoku]

Don't think I said that, but all you guys are going on like "we should end domestic abuse and rape". Yeah, you can't do that. Reduce it fine, but it's stupid to just demand a thing like that, do you think lawmakers could end crime if they just thought hard and found the right wording for the next bill?

Please read my post above. Lawmakers can't end crime - JUSTICE AND EDUCATION can.

[Shaoyuan]

Oh sure, it would be great if we could eliminate rape and abuse in our society, but while you're off at the unrealistic goals store maybe you could pick me up an end to violent crime and a perpetual motion machine?

Rape and abuse can be eliminated - it's a matter of effective measures in the former and education in the latter. Easy? Of course not. But possible, yes.

No, not possible, unless you want to institute a police state solely devoted to stopping rape where all people are watched by security forces at all times, including the police themselves.

[Samuraikoku]

Rape and abuse can be eliminated - it's a matter of effective measures in the former and education in the latter. Easy? Of course not. But possible, yes.

No, not possible, unless you want to institute a police state solely devoted to stopping rape where all people are watched by security forces at all times, including the police themselves.

Why do you think it's not possible?

[Mediterreania]

Oh sure, it would be great if we could eliminate rape and abuse in our society, but while you're off at the unrealistic goals store maybe you could pick me up an end to violent crime and a perpetual motion machine?

And while you're in Hell, could you pick me up some brimstone?

[Geniasis]

Rape and abuse can be eliminated - it's a matter of effective measures in the former and education in the latter. Easy? Of course not. But possible, yes.

No, not possible, unless you want to institute a police state solely devoted to stopping rape where all people are watched by security forces at all times, including the police themselves.

Easy. You have three classes. Civilians, Police, and Police-police*.

The police have absolute authority over the civilians, the police-police have absolute authority over the police, and the civilians have absolute authority over the police-police.

Y'know, like the starters in Pokemon.

*note: generate catchier name. Like Deathrender or Blackwatch. Witchaloks, perhaps.

[The Congregationists]

No, not possible, unless you want to institute a police state solely devoted to stopping rape where all people are watched by security forces at all times, including the police themselves.

Easy. You have three classes. Civilians, Police, and Police-police*.

The police have absolute authority over the civilians, the police-police have absolute authority over the police, and the civilians have absolute authority over the police-police.

Y'know, like the starters in Pokemon.

*note: generate catchier name. Like Deathrender or Blackwatch. Witchaloks, perhaps.

That's kind of cool. A rock-paper-scisors law enforcement system. I like it.