Should religion have a place in Schools

[Dukis]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism can be proven Micoevolution i think.
It is basically where you get diffrent types of dogs.
The rest of evolution says that you came from dirt.
A dog and a coyote are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf and a banana are related right?
That is evolutionism.

[Horsefish]

How so?

One example.
When looking at a chest full of gold coins and you want to know how old it is you look for the youngest coin right.
The younger "coins" in our universe point to it only being about 6000 years old.
The evolutionist people have found the oldest "coin" and say that is how old the universe is.

This is where you made yourself look like a complete muppet. If you want to find out how something is, you find the oldest thing as it's been there the longest. Surely that is common sense?

[Ifreann]

How so?

One example.
When looking at a chest full of gold coins and you want to know how old it is you look for the youngest coin right.

No, you examine the chest. I could put a coin minted half an hour ago into a chest from 821 HE.

The younger "coins" in our universe point to it only being about 6000 years old.

No, an interpretation of the Bible points to it being 6000 years old.

The evolutionist people have found the oldest "coin" and say that is how old the universe is.

Evolution has nothing to do with the age of the universe.

Plus our population got reset to about 10 people 4400 years ago. Right about the time of Noah's flood.

Was that before or after Loki gave birth to Sleipnir?

The existence of the great flood is one of the most recurring stories on the planet.

Vampires are in a lot of books, therefore, vampires are real! Quick men, to the garlic store!

[Samuraikoku]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism can be proven Micoevolution i think.
It is basically where you get diffrent types of dogs.
The rest of evolution says that you came from dirt.
A dog and a coyote are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf and a banana are related right?
That is evolutionism.

Wat.

[Norstal]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism can be proven Micoevolution i think.
It is basically where you get diffrent types of dogs.
The rest of evolution says that you came from dirt.
A dog and a coyote are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf and a banana are related right?
That is evolutionism.

Argh, another part of me just died. Quick, call Farn!

[Horsefish]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism can be proven Micoevolution i think.
It is basically where you get diffrent types of dogs.
The rest of evolution says that you came from dirt.
A dog and a coyote are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf and a banana are related right?
That is evolutionism.

The stupidity. It BURNS!

[Ceannairceach]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism can be proven Micoevolution i think.
It is basically where you get diffrent types of dogs.
The rest of evolution says that you came from dirt.
A dog and a coyote are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf and a banana are related right?
That is evolutionism.

Please, educate yourself on the subject before you attempt to debate it.

[Samuraikoku]

I see five people here (Norstal, Ifreann, Ceannairceach, Horsefish and yours truly) that cannot seem to counter Dukis' argument.

[Ifreann]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism

Evolutionism is a term coined by Creationists and ID proponents in an attempt to make evolution appear to be a political ideology. Its not, no matter how much you might want it to be.

can be proven Micoevolution i think.

Microevolution is another term concocted by Creationists and ID proponents, this time in an attempt to shift goalposts and discount the many, many examples of evolution occurring.

[Ceannairceach]

I see five people here (Norstal, Ifreann, Ceannairceach, Horsefish and yours truly) that cannot seem to counter Dukis' argument.

I won't refute it because he has no idea what he's talking about, not because I can't refute it. I don't have the time to explain to him the entire evolutionary theory.

[Ifreann]

I see five people here (Norstal, Ifreann, Ceannairceach, Horsefish and yours truly) that cannot seem to counter Dukis' argument.

You were saying?

[Astonysha]

Essential answer - religion is a matter for individual commitment, not for dogmatic training.
So essentially, no, it should not be taught in schools.
If the parents are that concerned, they can give their kids the "training" at home, or they can take them to the local religious establishment to acquire the knowledge that they need.

[Samuraikoku]

I'm saying I'm at a loss for words as how someone can say something so... well, stupid.

[DASHES]

And if it does how should it be taught;
Extra curricular subject,
Voluntary subject,
Creationism, should it be allowed,
not at all,
blanket teach multiple religions alongside each other,
just the "main" ones,

Thoughts...?

My thoughts?

Religion should be taught in schools, and kids should grow up being well informed about all the major world faiths. After all, school is about learning and getting rid of ignorance, isn't it? Then why are we keeping knowledge about religion out of schools?

Teaching about the major world faiths alongside scientific theory in a non-biased, informative, and tolerant/respectful way can ensure that kids not only know their options for a disciplined and spiritual lifestyle (if they choose to follow one), but also grow up to be tolerant of other people's faiths.

Schools should teach whatever they want in Science class, but should also teach about world religions in Social Studies class.
Finally, allow school prayer again. Its discrimination to ban it.

[Dukis]

Later I will explain the dinosaurs with creationism if you want but I am out of time now.
If you are really curious about it google dragons in the bible or something.

Treasure chest.
The treasure chest was created after the youngest coin.
A ship sank you want to know when it sank find treasure chest that is what it means.

I could go on for hours.

[Flameswroth]

Later I will explain the dinosaurs with creationism if you want but I am out of time now.
If you are really curious about it google dragons in the bible or something.

Treasure chest.
The treasure chest was created after the youngest coin.
A ship sank you want to know when it sank find treasure chest that is what it means.

I could go on for hours.

You are my hero, Dukis. I have no idea what you're saying most of the time, but somehow I know it's awesome.

[Samuraikoku]

Later I will explain the dinosaurs with creationism if you want but I am out of time now.
If you are really curious about it google dragons in the bible or something.

I take it this is what you saw?

Treasure chest.
The treasure chest was created after the youngest coin.
A ship sank you want to know when it sank find treasure chest that is what it means.

You mind putting those sentences logically together? You know, grammar, punctuation and such?

[Ceannairceach]

Later I will explain the dinosaurs with creationism if you want but I am out of time now.
If you are really curious about it google dragons in the bible or something.

It doesn't matter if you can, because you'd be wrong. Dinosaurs predate when creationism says the world was created, and are proof that biblical creationism.

[Ifreann]

Later I will explain the dinosaurs with creationism if you want but I am out of time now.
If you are really curious about it google dragons in the bible or something.

There are dragons in Eragon too. That doesn't make it true.

Treasure chest.
The treasure chest was created after the youngest coin.

How do you know that?

A ship sank you want to know when it sank find treasure chest that is what it means.

Your analogy is no better with this clarification.

I could go on for hours.

And you'd be wrong for hours, judging by your current posts.

[North Donsville]

We believe the decision should be left to the schools themselves.

[Samuraikoku]

We believe the decision should be left to the schools themselves.

Not to be harsh, but this is out of character speech.

[Keronians]

Another thing.
Science is something that can be deductively proven though experimentation. Only one of the six faces of Evolutionism can be proven Micoevolution i think.
It is basically where you get diffrent types of dogs.
The rest of evolution says that you came from dirt.
A dog and a coyote are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf are related right?
A dog and a coyote and a wolf and a banana are related right?
That is evolutionism.

That is a lot of things, but it certainly doesn't have anything to do with evolution.

[The Atlantean Menace]

Religion has no place in schools as it is a personal belief and school is supposed to be a place of un-biased learning. Not that that stops anyone anyway.

Religion can be taught in an unbiased manner. Or at least as unbiased a manner as world history or current events can be.

[Flameswroth]

Treasure chest.
The treasure chest was created after the youngest coin.
A ship sank you want to know when it sank find treasure chest that is what it means.

You mind putting those sentences logically together? You know, grammar, punctuation and such?

I don't presume to speak for Dukis, but what I interpreted from the few posts about treasure chests was this:

A treasure chest is built. It was built in...1875, let's say. It's filled with gold doubloons minted in 1845. The ship carrying the doubloons sinks sailing the sea in 1875, and in modern day we discover it. We try to decide when the chest was made, and by looking at the doubloons we decide it was made in 1845, even though in truth it was made 30 years later.

The intended relation is that the world is comprised of materials that were 'organized' by God. These materials would naturally be older than when they were organized, just as the doubloons were older than the chest they were organized into. Thus, by analyzing the materials of the Earth, we are overestimating Earth's age, because we're looking at the material, not when it was put together.

Or something like that.

[Free Soviets]

How so?

One example.
When looking at a chest full of gold coins and you want to know how old it is you look for the youngest coin right.
The younger "coins" in our universe point to it only being about 6000 years old.
The evolutionist people have found the oldest "coin" and say that is how old the universe is.

sure, that gets you the age of the chest (assuming no tampering, etc). but if you want to know how old coins are, you look for the oldest one. even if your premise about the 'youngest coin' being 6000 years old wasn't laughably wrong, your analogy is fucking stupid. because yes, it turns out that shit has happened since the start of the universe. why just today some new atoms that didn't exist yesterday came into existence. so clearly the universe itself must have started today.

[Plus our population got reset to about 10 people 4400 years ago. Right about the time of Noah's flood.

hahahaha. no.

also, when are you going to get around to scientifically deducing that 'evolutionism' is a religion?