Should religion have a place in Schools

[Flameswroth]

no and nether should music

I agree. Gotta keep those kids away from entertainment. Damn them for wanting to listen to music! Damn them!

"The Rap Music" is a leading cause of back-talk, rabble-rousin', skateboarding on the sidewalk and lawn standing-on-ing. It leads to pants sag and slang. Clearly this is a dangerous thing, and the last thing we wanna do is have 'em listening to it in school.

[ImperialPoland]

Yes. Schools shouldn't simply expose the views of secularists to students but also the views of different religions.

Religion has no place in a government institution(ie a school). They may learn religion at home or at church.

Then atheist/anti-religious views should have no place either. They can learn that stuff at home or in a "voluntary Gulag".

[Samuraikoku]

Religion has no place in a government institution(ie a school). They may learn religion at home or at church.

Then atheist/anti-religious views should have no place either. They can learn that stuff at home or in a "voluntary Gulag".

Which leaves us with nothing religious OR anti-religious to teach at school. Which proves the atheists' point.

[Xanicea]

Then atheist/anti-religious views should have no place either. They can learn that stuff at home or in a "voluntary Gulag".

Which leaves us with nothing religious OR anti-religious to teach at school. Which proves the atheists' point.

Exactly.

Go atheists!

[Dyakovo]

Religion has no place in a government institution(ie a school). They may learn religion at home or at church.

Then atheist/anti-religious views should have no place either. They can learn that stuff at home or in a "voluntary Gulag".

What supposed "atheist/anti-theist" views are taught in school?

[Ifreann]

Then atheist/anti-religious views should have no place either. They can learn that stuff at home or in a "voluntary Gulag".

What supposed "atheist/anti-theist" views are taught in school?

Everything in science classes, I'm guessing.

[Bottle]

What supposed "atheist/anti-theist" views are taught in school?

Everything in science classes, I'm guessing.

Hey now, that's unfair.

They also hate everything in sex-ed classes, and most of history classes.

[Dyakovo]

What supposed "atheist/anti-theist" views are taught in school?

Everything in science classes, I'm guessing.

When I saw that Bottle had the last post in the thread I thought that she had posted this (or something along these lines)...
I do have the feeling that the actual response will be along these lines though...

[Ifreann]

Everything in science classes, I'm guessing.

Hey now, that's unfair.

They also hate everything in sex-ed classes, and most of history classes.

Maths is pretty atheist. I mean, we don't teach kids what happens when x = God.

[Dyakovo]

Hey now, that's unfair.

They also hate everything in sex-ed classes, and most of history classes.

Maths is pretty atheist. I mean, we don't teach kids what happens when x = God.

* demands gawd be introduced into math*

[Scientific socks]

Everything in science classes, I'm guessing.

Hey now, that's unfair.

They also hate everything in sex-ed classes, and most of history classes.

Yet history classes revolve so much around religion. It was the Pope that choose approved of the European kings and religion has been a central point of war for ages as one religion seeks to convert another.

I have no problem with relgion being taught as long as it is done as "<insert group name> belived/believes that <whatever> which is why <yadda yadda yadda>"

Relgion has so much to do with us today. Without relgion abortion and gay marraige would probably be legal. Terrorists would need to find different grounds to attack the other countries, less would be spent of religions and religous charities (possibly made up with other charities), there would be fewer doomsday predictions and many other things.

[Old Sdrawkcab]

Unless religion can be proven to be a great thing that gets you jobs and college acceptances

Since it can get you a job as preacher, priest (possibily rising to cardinal and Pope!!!), imam, friar/nun, etc... and as some colleges accept only religious people... I assume you think it should be taught.

Wrong criteria, buddy.

OWNED

[Samuraikoku]

Hey now, that's unfair.

They also hate everything in sex-ed classes, and most of history classes.

Yet history classes revolve so much around religion. It was the Pope that choose approved of the European kings and religion has been a central point of war for ages as one religion seeks to convert another.

I have no problem with relgion being taught as long as it is done as "<insert group name> belived/believes that <whatever> which is why <yadda yadda yadda>"

But that's not really religion teaching per se. Nevertheless it would be alright with me.

[Rentusera]

Maths is pretty atheist. I mean, we don't teach kids what happens when x = God.

* demands gawd be introduced into math*

a = world
b = physics
c = matter-energy
x = god

b+c+x = a
b+c = a
b+c = b+c+x = a but b+x ≠ and c+x ≠ a
∴ x = 0
Q.E.D.

Do I get a Nobel Prize yet?

[Zobnia]

To begin with I'll admit that I only read the first two pages.

I struggle with myself because I'm trying to impose a kind of self-conditioning so that I can overlook brazen ignorance and foolishness rather than spending all of my time arguing with idiots. This is not because I somehow approve of idiocy but rather because arguing with an idiot always results in two things; firstly that the idiot remains idiotic and secondly that I myself end up with a feeling of despair.

However, I'm going to set aside my attempt at self-conditioning for a moment to state the painfully obvious.

A school is a place where you go to learn about things. A school should teach objectively, not endorsing any single opinion in a divisive issue. In order for this to be the case a school should make all knowledge available and both encourage and empower students to learn about a variety of subjects through a variety of means. I am somewhat offended by the brazen impudence and willful ignorance of people who loudly proclaim their position on a matter and then turn around and demand that no other position on the matter should be taken seriously or even understood since this would somehow be trampling on the speaker's right to hold their own opinion.

In the real world there are a lot of ideas floating around and a lot of people who take them differently. If you can't handle someone else having their opinion treated with the same tolerance and respect that you would like your opinion to be treated with then, frankly, you can keep your garbage to yourself. Turnabout is fair play, yes? After all, who wants to live in a world where I can say what I think and you can say what you think and then we can treat one another with respect and dignity instead of badgering and rallying against one another like spoiled children?

I blame the internet. For some reason we suddenly think we're intelligent.

[Make up your own mind]

* demands gawd be introduced into math*

a = world
b = physics
c = matter-energy
x = god

b+c+x = a
b+c = a
b+c = b+c+x = a but b+x ≠ and c+x ≠ a
∴ x = 0
Q.E.D.

Do I get a Nobel Prize yet?

I read your post, read your signature, read your post again, and...

[Seperates]

That's... weird, given that she DOES believe in Allah...

Depending on how you look at it... Muslims do not believe in the "Holy Trinity", so in that sense Islam's Yahweh is not the same as Christianity's Yahweh.

Bingo. And if she actually knew her religion... she would probebly know that... but, like most Catholics, in-examination is all a part of the grand non-process.

[Dyakovo]

* demands gawd be introduced into math*

a = world
b = physics
c = matter-energy
x = god

b+c+x = a
b+c = a
b+c = b+c+x = a but b+x ≠ and c+x ≠ a
∴ x = 0
Q.E.D.

Do I get a Nobel Prize yet?

We've put your name into consideration.
*nods*

[Ifreann]

* demands gawd be introduced into math*

a = world
b = physics
c = matter-energy
x = god

b+c+x = a
b+c = a
b+c = b+c+x = a but b+x ≠ and c+x ≠ a
∴ x = 0
Q.E.D.

Do I get a Nobel Prize yet?

I think there's a spare Chemistry one lying around here somewhere, if that'll do.

[Vecherd]

In Public Schools: No.

In Private Schools: If it is a religious school.

[Strajalands]

Religion should have a place in the school system, but as class of general knowledge. Religion should be teached by teologists, not priests, monks, rabines...
Religion should be a class where a child will get knowledge about every big religion equally.

[Free Soviets]

In Public Schools: No.

In Private Schools: If it is a religious school.

well argued...

btw, i'm still waiting to hear a reasonable argument for why we shouldn't require even private schools to be secular in their educational operations. save the religious indoctrination for, well, never. but at least keep it outside of education.

[Ublakeistan]

Religion has no place in school or anywhere else in civilized society for that matter

[Greatest Soviet Union]

It shoud not have a place.

[Samuraikoku]

btw, i'm still waiting to hear a reasonable argument for why we shouldn't require even private schools to be secular in their educational operations. save the religious indoctrination for, well, never. but at least keep it outside of education.

Because private schools, if retaining the knowledge the State tells them to inculcate to the students (after all they must be allowed by the State), are free to teach whatever they wish (again, following the state guidelines). That's why you have religious/military schools. After all, there's freedom of religion. What SHOULD NOT be done is to make the state teach religion as part of its official knowledge.