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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:49 am

Dukis wrote:Evolutionism is what most people are taught in biology class. How the universe was created and how we all evolved from primordial soup and single celled organisms.
However that is a belief just like religion and it should be taught in schools like all other religions are taught. As a optional course.


Typical answer, reminds me of the Intelligent Design fellows.

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Postby Augenstan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:50 am

I find it funny that Dukis claims on a different thread that he is ''too smart''. Interesting...

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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:50 am

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Postby Unhealthy2 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:52 am

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Postby The Kangaroo Republic » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:52 am

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Postby Fantasy Encounter » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:57 am

I wholeheartedly believe that a comparative religion class should be taught in schools. I think it would go a long way in teaching some tolerance and critical thinking.
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Postby The Kangaroo Republic » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:05 pm

Fantasy Encounter wrote:I wholeheartedly believe that a comparative religion class should be taught in schools. I think it would go a long way in teaching some tolerance and critical thinking.

This is true, lack of being informed often leads to intolerance
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Postby Hegstoria » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:14 pm

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Samuraikoku wrote:While in school/high school, we had NO religion whatsoever. It's just said "Islam invaded Europe and people fought in the name of Christianism." (I'm oversimplifying I know, but you get it).

So you didn't learn like, the five pillars of Islam or any of that stuff? I remember getting that in World History freshman year! Granted I don't remember what those pillars were, but I remember covering them. Hmmm...

Same (you from New York?).
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Hegstoria wrote:My school taught us about all the major religions, they're origins, major leaders, and cultural significance. Regardless of your view on religion, you cannot deny that religion is one of the most influential aspects of history.

No, you can't. What happens in the US is, some people think that their religion is also a wonderful explanation of science, how the universe came to be, how life appeared and developed, all that. They also feel that their explanation is the only explanation. That's when the arguments start.

Oh I completely agree. It has always been my view that we should teach everything equally. We should educate our students on the intricacies and similarities of religions in our History classes, but keep the their views out of the science room.
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Postby Dukis » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:51 pm

Augenstan wrote:I find it funny that Dukis claims on a different thread that he is ''too smart''. Interesting...

Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:54 pm

Dukis wrote:
Augenstan wrote:I find it funny that Dukis claims on a different thread that he is ''too smart''. Interesting...

Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.

The only people who think "evolutionism" is anything are creationists.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:56 pm

Dukis wrote:
Augenstan wrote:I find it funny that Dukis claims on a different thread that he is ''too smart''. Interesting...

Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.


Evolutionism. Does. Not. Exist.
You. Just. Pulled. It. Out. Of. Your. Arse.
There. Is. Not. A. Single. "Evolutionist". In. The. World.
It. Has. Never. Been. Taught. Anywhere. Ever.


Cosmology and Abiogenesis, however, are absolutely sciences, complete with evidence, and are in no way a religious belief.
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Postby Land of the with held » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:58 pm

Dukis wrote:
Augenstan wrote:I find it funny that Dukis claims on a different thread that he is ''too smart''. Interesting...

Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.


Dukis,
What you are saying is in a way correct... but you are also contradicting your self here. You should watch hat you are saying and make your self look like a fool. I don't doubt your smart but don't let your smartness leave you close minded. I belive in evolution as well. But not evolutionism.

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Postby Free Soviets » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:58 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Dukis wrote:Evolution comes from beneficial mutations. Beneficial mutations don't exist or at least we haven't found one in the last few thousand years of mankind. Therefore there is no evolution.
There are a lot of other arguments against it also.

Nylon-digesting bacteria. Your argument fails.

hell, my ability to drink milk well into adulthood without getting ill makes his argument fail.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:58 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Dukis wrote:Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.


Evolutionism. Does. Not. Exist.
You. Just. Pulled. It. Out. Of. Your. Arse.
There. Is. Not. A. Single. "Evolutionist". In. The. World.
It. Has. Never. Been. Taught. Anywhere. Ever.


Cosmology and Abiogenesis, however, are absolutely sciences, complete with evidence, and are in no way a religious belief.

He didn't even use his own ass, "evolutionism" was made up years ago by creationists trying to make a tu quoque fallacy stick.
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Postby Dukis » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:59 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Dukis wrote:Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.

The only people who think "evolutionism" is anything are creationists.

Ok now read this next part very slowly.
Evolutionism is the belief that everything on this planet evolved from some single celled organisms.
It is what some atheists believe in instead of believing in a god.
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Postby Land of the with held » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:59 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Dukis wrote:Where was that I forgot?
To those people who weren't there when part of this argument started it started by debating what was a religion.
Main point.
Evolution is real that was not disputed.
What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science but it was a belief and should be classified as a religion.

The only people who think "evolutionism" is anything are creationists.

Actually no. I am agnostic. I do not believe in organized religion.

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Postby Enadail » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:00 pm

Dukis wrote:What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science


Actually, no, that's not in dispute at all. Evolutionism is not a science. It is a creation by religious idiots who couldn't debate on even terms, so had to create mockeries of science to feel like they had a ground to stand on.

So there ya go, something we agree on! Evolutionism is no more a science then gravityism or forum-postingism.

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Postby Enadail » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:02 pm

Dukis wrote:Ok now read this next part very slowly.
Evolutionism is the belief that everything on this planet evolved from some single celled organisms.
It is what some atheists believe in instead of believing in a god.
And Land of the With Held
You are literally sitting in the chair next to me. Come on seriously?


Now read this next part very slowly:

No... it... isn't.

Evolutionism is a term created by creationists to try to paint science as a religion. It means whatever the particular person using it means, because it has no meaning in itself.

Find me ANYONE who believes in your "evolutionism".

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Postby Barrasso » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:02 pm

I belive and it is active in barrasso though we dont have an official religion the most of our people are Catholic so it is tought it schools but islam and muslim religions and judism even jahova witness religions are tought in barrasso then there is public schools where their is the class by choise program where islam and christianity and judiism the parents or child are able to choose the class they want to take
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Postby Dukis » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:02 pm

Enadail wrote:
Dukis wrote:What was disputed that was that evolutionism is not science


Actually, no, that's not in dispute at all. Evolutionism is not a science. It is a creation by religious idiots who couldn't debate on even terms, so had to create mockeries of science to feel like they had a ground to stand on.

So there ya go, something we agree on! Evolutionism is no more a science then gravityism or forum-postingism.

Thank you very much that is what I was saying. Evolutionism is not science and therefore should not be taught in science classes.
Now should it be taught in schools like religion?
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Postby Land of the with held » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:06 pm

Enadail wrote:
Dukis wrote:Ok now read this next part very slowly.
Evolutionism is the belief that everything on this planet evolved from some single celled organisms.
It is what some atheists believe in instead of believing in a god.
And Land of the With Held
You are literally sitting in the chair next to me. Come on seriously?


Now read this next part very slowly:

No... it... isn't.

Evolutionism is a term created by creationists to try to paint science as a religion. It means whatever the particular person using it means, because it has no meaning in itself.

Find me ANYONE who believes in your "evolutionism".


TYPE IT INTO GOOGLE. I mean seriously. Jus do it.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:06 pm

Dukis wrote:
Enadail wrote:
Actually, no, that's not in dispute at all. Evolutionism is not a science. It is a creation by religious idiots who couldn't debate on even terms, so had to create mockeries of science to feel like they had a ground to stand on.
So there ya go, something we agree on! Evolutionism is no more a science then gravityism or forum-postingism.

Thank you very much that is what I was saying. Evolutionism is not science and therefore should not be taught in science classes.
Now should it be taught in schools like religion?

You didn't read past his second sentence, did you?
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Postby Enadail » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:06 pm

Dukis wrote:
Enadail wrote:Actually, no, that's not in dispute at all. Evolutionism is not a science. It is a creation by religious idiots who couldn't debate on even terms, so had to create mockeries of science to feel like they had a ground to stand on.

So there ya go, something we agree on! Evolutionism is no more a science then gravityism or forum-postingism.

Thank you very much that is what I was saying. Evolutionism is not science and therefore should not be taught in science classes.
Now should it be taught in schools like religion?


... You don't seem to read anything anyone is posting.

Evolutionism... is... not... real.

It does not exist. It is not taught anywhere I have ever heard of, and if its being taught, its being taught on purpose to discredit science.

Of course it shouldn't be taught, any more then then a school should teach that Christ was a 4 headed alien who built the pyramids while tapping everyone he met on the head. It is a non-sense idea, and it exists only in the minds of those opposed to science.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:07 pm

Barrasso wrote:I belive and it is active in barrasso though we dont have an official religion the most of our people are Catholic so it is tought it schools but islam and muslim religions and judism even jahova witness religions are tought in barrasso then there is public schools where their is the class by choise program where islam and christianity and judiism the parents or child are able to choose the class they want to take

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Postby Dukis » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Dukis wrote:Thank you very much that is what I was saying. Evolutionism is not science and therefore should not be taught in science classes.
Now should it be taught in schools like religion?

You didn't read past his second sentence, did you?

screw you
the main point was that evolutionism is not a science not who created it but just google evolutionism
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