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Should religion have a place in Schools

Postby Anarchicha » Fri May 20, 2011 7:21 am

And if it does how should it be taught;
Extra curricular subject,
Voluntary subject,
Creationism, should it be allowed,
not at all,
blanket teach multiple religions alongside each other,
just the "main" ones,

Thoughts...?

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:23 am

Anarchicha wrote:And if it does how should it be taught;
Extra curricular subject,
Voluntary subject,
Creationism, should it be allowed,
not at all,
blanket teach multiple religions alongside each other,
just the "main" ones,

Thoughts...?

What are your thoughts, O Thread-Starter? It is polite to offer your opinion in the OP, you know.

In public schools, comparative religions might be taught. Private schools may do as they please.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 7:25 am

Under no circumstances. Religion has nothing to do with teachings at school, nor will it ever have anything to do with it. Religion shouldn't be TAUGHT, it should be VOLUNTARILY CHOSEN.

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Postby Risottia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:26 am

Anarchicha wrote:And if it does how should it be taught;

Not "it". "Them".
As a part of history/philosophy courses, as religions have influenced history and thought.

Other things, like religious indoctrination, shouldn't enter schools. And creationism is BS.
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Postby Civa-Orchestra » Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 am

Amazingly enough, there's more than one religion out there.

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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 am

Yup it should be a voluntary subject choice explaining the teachings and beliefs of the major religions found locally.
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Postby Risottia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 am

Farnhamia wrote:In public schools, comparative religions might be taught. Private schools may do as they please.


...well, as long as those private schools don't benefit from any funding/subsidy etc from the Gov't.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:28 am

Risottia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:In public schools, comparative religions might be taught. Private schools may do as they please.


...well, as long as those private schools don't benefit from any funding/subsidy etc from the Gov't.

Well, yes.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri May 20, 2011 7:28 am

No.

What would the atheists like me do. And what about the different views of religion.. You also say main religions. This includes hinduism and budhism. Those two religions are exteremely different from the other religions and are different from themselves. School is a place of learning useful things for life. Unless religion can be proven to be a great thing that gets you jobs and college acceptances, it should not be inside public schools.
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Postby Anarchicha » Fri May 20, 2011 7:29 am

Sorry first thread!


I dont think it has a place in any school to be honest, kids heads get filled with enough crap during the day. Leave Gods in places of worship I say.

Im not religious in anyway shape or form but I dont consider myself an atheist really if that makes sense.

To be honest I saw loads of threads lately about religions and wondered if people thought it should be allowed in schools.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri May 20, 2011 7:29 am

Anarchicha wrote:And if it does how should it be taught;
Extra curricular subject, 1
Voluntary subject, 2
Creationism, should it be allowed, 3
not at all, 4
blanket teach multiple religions alongside each other, 5
just the "main" ones, 6

Thoughts...?

I choose options 1,2, and 5.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 7:29 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:No.

What would the atheists like me do. And what about the different views of religion.. You also say main religions. This includes hinduism and budhism. Those two religions are exteremely different from the other religions and are different from themselves. School is a place of learning useful things for life. Unless religion can be proven to be a great thing that gets you jobs and college acceptances, it should not be inside public schools.


This.

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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Fri May 20, 2011 7:30 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:School is a place of learning useful things for life.


Understanding the belief structures of the people around you and how this can influence their choices and behaviours seems pretty useful to me.
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Postby Risottia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:31 am

Tim-Opolis wrote: Unless religion can be proven to be a great thing that gets you jobs and college acceptances

Since it can get you a job as preacher, priest (possibily rising to cardinal and Pope!!!), imam, friar/nun, etc... and as some colleges accept only religious people... I assume you think it should be taught.

Wrong criteria, buddy.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri May 20, 2011 7:31 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:No.

What would the atheists like me do. And what about the different views of religion.. You also say main religions. This includes hinduism and budhism. Those two religions are exteremely different from the other religions and are different from themselves. School is a place of learning useful things for life. Unless religion can be proven to be a great thing that gets you jobs and college acceptances, it should not be inside public schools.

One problem with having a blanket ban on teaching of/about religion... Religions have had a significant effect on the history of the world.
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Postby Unchecked Expansion » Fri May 20, 2011 7:32 am

I never saw anything wrong with the British way of teaching R.E. - just a class on the major religions, their origins and main beliefs. Was quite a handy thing to have, growing up in a very diverse part of London

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:32 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:No.

What would the atheists like me do. And what about the different views of religion.. You also say main religions. This includes hinduism and budhism. Those two religions are exteremely different from the other religions and are different from themselves. School is a place of learning useful things for life. Unless religion can be proven to be a great thing that gets you jobs and college acceptances, it should not be inside public schools.

Belonging to a particular church can get you jobs and college acceptances, it would be foolish to deny that. The teaching of religion as religion, as opposed to teaching it as knowledge, does not belong in publicly funded schools.
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Postby Golden Rus » Fri May 20, 2011 7:32 am

Should religion have a place in Schools

There is no harm in it normally. The rest depends on the people will.
Anarchicha wrote:And if it does how should it be taught;
Voluntary subject

If it's exactly a definite religious teaching - then yes. Rights of atheists and religious minorities shouldn't be harmed.
Creationism, should it be allowed,

For the God's sake, no creationism! It's neither a scientific thing (whatever creationists may say) nor actually a religious dogma. A well-known Russian cleric Andrey Kurayev has perfectly criticized the Western creationism already recently (please just dismiss me from searching for his article and translating it into English).
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Postby Hadari » Fri May 20, 2011 7:33 am

Outside of world religion courses, clubs and private schools, no.

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Postby Risottia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:34 am

Unchecked Expansion wrote:I never saw anything wrong with the British way of teaching R.E. - just a class on the major religions, their origins and main beliefs. Was quite a handy thing to have, growing up in a very diverse part of London


Come on, the only two religions with a substantial number of fanatical followers in London are Tea-Drinkism and Cricket. Although the WillyKateVoyeurians are growing.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 7:35 am

Dyakovo wrote:One problem with having a blanket ban on teaching of/about religion... Religions have had a significant effect on the history of the world.


History is one thing, religion is another. The fact that the Crusades happened doesn't mean the Bible has to be read in public schools.

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Postby The Tribes Of Longton » Fri May 20, 2011 7:35 am

Considering the prevalence of theists, I'd suggest that religious education is very important to understand views of individuals, promote social cohesion and, most importantly, have a blazing row over some minor biblical point on NSG.

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Postby Khyrta » Fri May 20, 2011 7:35 am

Religion has no place in schools as it is a personal belief and school is supposed to be a place of un-biased learning. Not that that stops anyone anyway.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 20, 2011 7:36 am

Nothing wrong with teaching students about various religions. Teaching them to be members of a given religion, or teaching them that a given religion is the right one? Save it for church.
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Postby Risottia » Fri May 20, 2011 7:37 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:One problem with having a blanket ban on teaching of/about religion... Religions have had a significant effect on the history of the world.


History is one thing, religion is another. The fact that the Crusades happened doesn't mean the Bible has to be read in public schools.

Fine, but to understand how it was possible for a religious leader to invoke a Crusade and be obeyed, you have to know a bit about that religion itself.
Anyway, reading the Bible - that would be more on the lines of indoctrination.
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