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DO you Hate Republicans

Yes, I really Hate them they can all burn in hell, I don't care whether some are good or some are bad **** them all, (this is because I have no idea what they stand for it is merely blind hate)
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15%
Yes, I made a logical arguement explaining why, and for the record I do not HATE them, merely disagree with their policies
147
44%
No, I made a logical arguement explaining why, and for the record I am not Bill Gates and I am NOT a radical
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22%
meh (sound it out)
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19%
 
Total votes : 334

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:02 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Treating other people like they're sub-human is a religion now?

Bigotry cloaked in misguided self-serving 'belief' is still bigotry.


And that is bad... why? On some issues, yes, I can see why being a 'bigot' is immoral, but not on all.


I do apologise. It seems that I have forgotten on which issues irrational prejudice is laudable. Seeing as I prefer to use my brain when deciding my position on an issue, I cannot easily recompile the list of these cases where being a total dick is to be celebrated.
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Postby Draconian Races » Sun May 22, 2011 1:03 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
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And that is bad... why?

At least you admit to being a bigot. Of course, the problem is you think it is a good thing.


Well since holding to my values is considered 'bigotry' by liberals.. quickest way to avoid another page or two of "Im not!" "You are!" "Im not!" is to say "Meh."
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Postby Draconian Races » Sun May 22, 2011 1:03 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
And that is bad... why? On some issues, yes, I can see why being a 'bigot' is immoral, but not on all.


I do apologise. It seems that I have forgotten on which issues irrational prejudice is laudable. Seeing as I prefer to use my brain when deciding my position on an issue, I cannot easily recompile the list of these cases where being a total dick is to be celebrated.


I use my brain, but I use it alongside my religion and beliefs.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:05 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I do apologise. It seems that I have forgotten on which issues irrational prejudice is laudable. Seeing as I prefer to use my brain when deciding my position on an issue, I cannot easily recompile the list of these cases where being a total dick is to be celebrated.


I use my brain, but I use it alongside my religion and beliefs.


You turn off your brain and instead lean on the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.
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Postby Draconian Races » Sun May 22, 2011 1:06 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
I use my brain, but I use it alongside my religion and beliefs.


You turn off your brain and instead lean on the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.


Reasonable Faith. Brain and Bible both
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sun May 22, 2011 1:06 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
I use my brain, but I use it alongside my religion and beliefs.


You turn off your brain and instead lean on the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.

I leaned on my Bible once it was pretty fucking useless as a crutch though. Damn my apelike appendages!
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun May 22, 2011 1:06 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I do apologise. It seems that I have forgotten on which issues irrational prejudice is laudable. Seeing as I prefer to use my brain when deciding my position on an issue, I cannot easily recompile the list of these cases where being a total dick is to be celebrated.


I use my brain.

:rofl:
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sun May 22, 2011 1:07 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
I use my brain.

:rofl:

I won't lie I laughed as well.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:08 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You turn off your brain and instead lean on the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.


Reasonable Faith. Brain and Bible both


The moment you begin depriving other freely consenting individuals of fundamental rights and basic human dignity is the moment you conclusively and decisively abandon reason.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Draconian Races » Sun May 22, 2011 1:10 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
Reasonable Faith. Brain and Bible both


The moment you begin depriving other freely consenting individuals of fundamental rights and basic human dignity is the moment you conclusively and decisively abandon reason.


They would impose on me. Theres no exemption clause for religious people of any dissenting religion, to say "Im sorry, but due to my religion, we will not be giving queer civil unions the Honeymoon Discount. However, we will charge the normal rate for two adults".

They take away religious believer's rights to honor their religion. THAT is why I am so ardently against their 'rights'. They would infringe on mine. It isnt the "What harm will it do you, it wont effect you" as some say
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:10 pm

Mussoliniopoli wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You turn off your brain and instead lean on the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.

I leaned on my Bible once it was pretty fucking useless as a crutch though. Damn my apelike appendages!


Attempting to support your position on the basis of the Bible does indeed render you liable to falling flat on your face.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sun May 22, 2011 1:13 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:I leaned on my Bible once it was pretty fucking useless as a crutch though. Damn my apelike appendages!


Attempting to support your position on the basis of the Bible does indeed render you liable to falling flat on your face.

As a Christian myself I have never understood why using the Bible makes any sense in regards to politics. It was written as an example for one's personal life and not a political manuscript. I grow tired of Theocrats feeling the need to judge people based on what some Manuscript said that passed through so many hands and had some revisions says. If there was anything a Christian should get from the Bible it would be the Sermon on the Mount which says nothing about hating gays, blacks, jews, gypsies, clerks, lawyers, part-time trombone musicians, etc.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:14 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The moment you begin depriving other freely consenting individuals of fundamental rights and basic human dignity is the moment you conclusively and decisively abandon reason.


They would impose on me. Theres no exemption clause for religious people of any dissenting religion, to say "Im sorry, but due to my religion, we will not be giving queer civil unions the Honeymoon Discount. However, we will charge the normal rate for two adults".

They take away religious believer's rights to honor their religion. THAT is why I am so ardently against their 'rights'. They would infringe on mine. It isnt the "What harm will it do you, it wont effect you" as some say


Religious practice need not entail forcing your beliefs onto others. Living in a society entails reaching accommodations with others and accepting diversity. You have no right to impose your beliefs in this manner.
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Postby Intangelon » Sun May 22, 2011 1:15 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Intangelon wrote:Agreed. Why tolerate intolerance?


When my religion is infringed upon, Im perfectly willing to take away other's 'rights'

How has your religion been "infringed upon"? Seriously, what "rights" are you told to tell people you're losing? I say it that way because you HAVE to be told it's happening because it's not happening.
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Postby Draconian Races » Sun May 22, 2011 1:16 pm

Intangelon wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
When my religion is infringed upon, Im perfectly willing to take away other's 'rights'

How has your religion been "infringed upon"? Seriously, what "rights" are you told to tell people you're losing? I say it that way because you HAVE to be told it's happening because it's not happening.


The right to refuse service.
Freedom of worship. Not everyone worships just in church on Sunday. Some people's lives are dedicated to actually following their God's rules.
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Postby Intangelon » Sun May 22, 2011 1:17 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
I use my brain, but I use it alongside my religion and beliefs.


You turn off your brain and instead lean on others' interpretations of the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.

Fixed.
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sun May 22, 2011 1:17 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Intangelon wrote:How has your religion been "infringed upon"? Seriously, what "rights" are you told to tell people you're losing? I say it that way because you HAVE to be told it's happening because it's not happening.


The right to refuse service.
Freedom of worship. Not everyone worships just in church on Sunday. Some people's lives are dedicated to actually following their God's rules.

Refuse what service?
You aren't allowed to worship? People obstruct you from praying or going to religious services?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:18 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Intangelon wrote:How has your religion been "infringed upon"? Seriously, what "rights" are you told to tell people you're losing? I say it that way because you HAVE to be told it's happening because it's not happening.


The right to refuse service.
Freedom of worship. Not everyone worships just in church on Sunday. Some people's lives are dedicated to actually following their God's rules.


Following your god's rules in your personal life does not entail enforcing your god's rules upon others. That is the attitude of the playground bully, about as far from virtue as one can get.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Draconian Races » Sun May 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
The right to refuse service.
Freedom of worship. Not everyone worships just in church on Sunday. Some people's lives are dedicated to actually following their God's rules.


Following your god's rules in your personal life does not entail enforcing your god's rules upon others. That is the attitude of the playground bully, about as far from virtue as one can get.


How is it enforcing to say "Sorry, we dont serve queers" here.
Let them go to a place that does serve them. A diff hotel or restaurant or business.
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Postby Intangelon » Sun May 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Intangelon wrote:How has your religion been "infringed upon"? Seriously, what "rights" are you told to tell people you're losing? I say it that way because you HAVE to be told it's happening because it's not happening.


The right to refuse service.
Freedom of worship. Not everyone worships just in church on Sunday. Some people's lives are dedicated to actually following their God's rules.

Try English this time, please.

Freedom of worship is enshrined in the Constitution. If your worship involves the subjugation of others, it conflicts with said Constitution and does not deserve protection. Now, "refuse service"? If you mean "refuse religious rites to those who aren't a member of that church" you already have that right. It's called freedom of association.

I repeat: try again, and this time, make sense.
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sun May 22, 2011 1:21 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Following your god's rules in your personal life does not entail enforcing your god's rules upon others. That is the attitude of the playground bully, about as far from virtue as one can get.


How is it enforcing to say "Sorry, we dont serve queers" here.
Let them go to a place that does serve them. A diff hotel or restaurant or business.

Is that you Ron Paul?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun May 22, 2011 1:21 pm

Intangelon wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You turn off your brain and instead lean on others' interpretations of the Bible as a crutch for your prejudices. Do not pretend otherwise.

Fixed.


While this may be the case given many fundamentalists' interest primarily in what others tell them the Bible says, Draconian Races may well have come to these erroneous conclusions through personal study of the Bible. Fail generates itself in a multitude of mysterious ways.
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Postby Intangelon » Sun May 22, 2011 1:21 pm

Draconian Races wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Following your god's rules in your personal life does not entail enforcing your god's rules upon others. That is the attitude of the playground bully, about as far from virtue as one can get.


How is it enforcing to say "Sorry, we dont serve queers" here.
Let them go to a place that does serve them. A diff hotel or restaurant or business.

Uh...your church has that right. Next?
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Sun May 22, 2011 1:21 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
The right to refuse service.
Freedom of worship. Not everyone worships just in church on Sunday. Some people's lives are dedicated to actually following their God's rules.


Following your god's rules in your personal life does not entail enforcing your god's rules upon others. That is the attitude of the playground bully, about as far from virtue as one can get.


In the words of Iffy, I die a little inside every time you post seriously. :(
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Sun May 22, 2011 1:23 pm

Intangelon wrote:
Draconian Races wrote:
How is it enforcing to say "Sorry, we dont serve queers" here.
Let them go to a place that does serve them. A diff hotel or restaurant or business.

Uh...your church has that right. Next?

He means businesses thus he wants to repeal Civil Rights Legislation. Nice fellow he follows the Paul rule of thumb. Keep the Niggers and Queers out of my Business! *froths at mouth*
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