What is your view on homosexual rights and why?

[Sibirsky]

Not the state's god damn business what adults do in the bedroom, or how they lead their life. What is there to discuss for 1200 posts?

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[Ceannairceach]

They are, by the current powers that be. Marriage is not to be discriminated against. And if they aren't allowed to marry, then neither are you. Either everyone has rights, or no one has them; simple as that.

Id rather marriage be illegal than allow gays to marry.

And no, I wouldnt refuse other religions services, unless they majorly contradicted mine. (No, I wont serve human meat to any cannibal religion )

But it ISNT healthy, it IS corrupting, and I would rather disown my own child than accept them as a PRACTICING gay.

Note that I dont have anything against people who are merely attracted to the same sex. I am against those who do the *Acts* of homosexuality.

My lifestyle is healthy and not corrupting, as the health assosiactions state. So, please don't state such idiotic lies.

You have the right to not serve human meat at stores, as you have the right to choose the menu. Idiotic comparison is idiotic. And if you have no trouble with other religions, who are not of your faith or moral code, then you shouldn't be against gays.

[Buffett and Colbert]

4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out.

That's kind of hot.

[Ceannairceach]

I wonder, is it possible to have a discussion on homosexuality based entirely on logic?

For those pro-homosexuality? Yes. For those against? Not a snowballs chance in an oven.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out.

That's kind of hot.

Just google image.

[Niur]

I wonder, is it possible to have a discussion on homosexuality based entirely on logic?

For those pro-homosexuality? Yes. For those against? Not a snowballs chance in an oven.

But why? My entire philosophy is based on logic, and unless you can portray your argument in an entirely logical manner, as far as I am concerned, I win by default.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Homosexual

This sums it up.

[Draconian Races]

4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!
5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.

4: I do, nor do I mind. If they can't be open, then no one can.
5: Two consenting adults. That's all I'll say.

4. I dont. And, ok, lets ban all PDAs. Id truly rather make straights sta yin the bedroom, then allow queers to be queer openly.
5. Oddly enough, Im a bestiality advocate, to an extent.
If I step away from my religion, I actually believe that bestiality is a healthy expression of someone's relationship to their pet, or their physical needs. I wouldnt mind homosexuality being public IF bestiality was legal.

No, I am not trolling

That being said, as both are sinful and perverse according to my religion, I am against both.

[Marcheria]

I'm against gay rights.

Here are my problems with gayness:
1) It goes against my religion
2) It goes against the social code
3) It destroys the value of "the family"
4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!
5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.
6) It's just gay!

There is so much wrong with this I don't know how to start. Pretty sure this a troll.

^This. New Asgirath, get out of this thread. You're not contributing to anything.

[Sibirsky]

I'm against gay rights.

Here are my problems with gayness:
1) It goes against my religion

So? Why are you telling others how to lead their life?

2) It goes against the social code

See #1.

3) It destroys the value of "the family"

No it doesn't. I know two gay couples with adopted children. They are two of the most loving families you'd ever meet.

4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!

Not the state's business of controlling behavior in public. It's not like there are men making out every where. If there happens to be a couple near you, look away. Problem solved.

5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.

Can a cat say I do?

6) It's just gay!

You're just trolling!

[Ceannairceach]

4: I do, nor do I mind. If they can't be open, then no one can.
5: Two consenting adults. That's all I'll say.

4. I dont. And, ok, lets ban all PDAs. Id truly rather make straights sta yin the bedroom, then allow queers to be queer openly.
5. Oddly enough, Im a bestiality advocate, to an extent.
If I step away from my religion, I actually believe that bestiality is a healthy expression of someone's relationship to their pet, or their physical needs. I wouldnt mind homosexuality being public IF bestiality was legal.

No, I am not trolling

That being said, as both are sinful and perverse according to my religion, I am against both.

Good for you, and good for us all that you aren't a law maker.
Good for you once more, but beasts can't consent, unlike two men.

[Draconian Races]

Id rather marriage be illegal than allow gays to marry.

And no, I wouldnt refuse other religions services, unless they majorly contradicted mine. (No, I wont serve human meat to any cannibal religion )

But it ISNT healthy, it IS corrupting, and I would rather disown my own child than accept them as a PRACTICING gay.

Note that I dont have anything against people who are merely attracted to the same sex. I am against those who do the *Acts* of homosexuality.

My lifestyle is healthy and not corrupting, as the health assosiactions state. So, please don't state such idiotic lies.

You have the right to not serve human meat at stores, as you have the right to choose the menu. Idiotic comparison is idiotic. And if you have no trouble with other religions, who are not of your faith or moral code, then you shouldn't be against gays.

I have trouble with them, but usually other religions are less... expressed.
I would stop those from other religions, from violating mine. I would stop two gays or lesbians from holding hands, snuggling, etc.

Then again, I dont always know whos gay, so Im sure some would slip through the gaps... but gay/lesb couples would not be allowed.
Id Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone

[SpectacularSpectacular]

They are, by the current powers that be. Marriage is not to be discriminated against. And if they aren't allowed to marry, then neither are you. Either everyone has rights, or no one has them; simple as that.

Id rather marriage be illegal than allow gays to marry.

And no, I wouldnt refuse other religions services, unless they majorly contradicted mine. (No, I wont serve human meat to any cannibal religion )

But it ISNT healthy, it IS corrupting, and I would rather disown my own child than accept them as a PRACTICING gay.

Note that I dont have anything against people who are merely attracted to the same sex. I am against those who do the *Acts* of homosexuality.

Firstly, we feel the same way about your beliefs
Secondly, can you offer any proof that would validate this corruption that is relevant? Just saying "its bad because I think God says its bad" is not an argument.

[Ceannairceach]

Id Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone

You don't retain that right.

[Draconian Races]

Id rather marriage be illegal than allow gays to marry.

And no, I wouldnt refuse other religions services, unless they majorly contradicted mine. (No, I wont serve human meat to any cannibal religion )

But it ISNT healthy, it IS corrupting, and I would rather disown my own child than accept them as a PRACTICING gay.

Note that I dont have anything against people who are merely attracted to the same sex. I am against those who do the *Acts* of homosexuality.

Firstly, we feel the same way about your beliefs
Secondly, can you offer any proof that would validate this corruption that is relevant? Just saying "its bad because I think God says its bad" is not an argument.

If they try to make my child consider being homosexual, or they say that it is 'acceptable', they are corrupting them. I dont want my child influenced by those I consider defiled and nearly sub-human.

Just like most people wouldnt want a pedophile as their child's teacher, I dont want a queer teaching my child anything. At least not an open queer.

[Sibirsky]

My lifestyle is healthy and not corrupting, as the health assosiactions state. So, please don't state such idiotic lies.

You have the right to not serve human meat at stores, as you have the right to choose the menu. Idiotic comparison is idiotic. And if you have no trouble with other religions, who are not of your faith or moral code, then you shouldn't be against gays.

I have trouble with them, but usually other religions are less... expressed.
I would stop those from other religions, from violating mine. I would stop two gays or lesbians from holding hands, snuggling, etc.

Then again, I dont always know whos gay, so Im sure some would slip through the gaps... but gay/lesb couples would not be allowed.
Id Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone

Take your theocracy elsewhere.

[Draconian Races]

Id Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone

You don't retain that right.

Then my rights are being infringed on. I can politely tell them that we hold the establishment to a certain standard and will not let those below it in.

If Im FORCED to accept them in, then its infringing on my own rights

[Sibirsky]

Firstly, we feel the same way about your beliefs
Secondly, can you offer any proof that would validate this corruption that is relevant? Just saying "its bad because I think God says its bad" is not an argument.

If they try to make my child consider being homosexual, or they say that it is 'acceptable', they are corrupting them. I dont want my child influenced by those I consider defiled and nearly sub-human.

Just like most people wouldnt want a pedophile as their child's teacher, I dont want a queer teaching my child anything. At least not an open queer.

They don't teach kids anything (unless they are teachers, in which case they teach math, history, etc.). They allow kids to make their own choices.

[SpectacularSpectacular]

Firstly, we feel the same way about your beliefs
Secondly, can you offer any proof that would validate this corruption that is relevant? Just saying "its bad because I think God says its bad" is not an argument.

If they try to make my child consider being homosexual, or they say that it is 'acceptable', they are corrupting them. I dont want my child influenced by those I consider defiled and nearly sub-human.

Just like most people wouldnt want a pedophile as their child's teacher, I dont want a queer teaching my child anything. At least not an open queer.

Wow, thanks for all that 'proof'
Again I say its your beliefs that are harmful and corrupting; my god told me so, therefore its true.

[Draconian Races]

If they try to make my child consider being homosexual, or they say that it is 'acceptable', they are corrupting them. I dont want my child influenced by those I consider defiled and nearly sub-human.

Just like most people wouldnt want a pedophile as their child's teacher, I dont want a queer teaching my child anything. At least not an open queer.

They don't teach kids anything (unless they are teachers, in which case they teach math, history, etc.). They allow kids to make their own choices.

Not the ones I met...

[Ceannairceach]

Firstly, we feel the same way about your beliefs
Secondly, can you offer any proof that would validate this corruption that is relevant? Just saying "its bad because I think God says its bad" is not an argument.

If they try to make my child consider being homosexual, or they say that it is 'acceptable', they are corrupting them. I dont want my child influenced by those I consider defiled and nearly sub-human.

Just like most people wouldnt want a pedophile as their child's teacher, I dont want a queer teaching my child anything. At least not an open queer.

Fist of all, stop using terms like "Queer" and "Sub-human" in an insulting manner. I don't appreciate it.

Second, a pedophile can harm your child physically and mentally, as deemed by the government. A homosexual cannot.

[SpectacularSpectacular]

You don't retain that right.

Then my rights are being infringed on. I can politely tell them that we hold the establishment to a certain standard and will not let those below it in.

If Im FORCED to accept them in, then its infringing on my own rights

Where did you get the idea this was your right?

[Ceannairceach]

You don't retain that right.

Then my rights are being infringed on. I can politely tell them that we hold the establishment to a certain standard and will not let those below it in.

If Im FORCED to accept them in, then its infringing on my own rights

You do not hold the right to discriminate against others for any reason that isn't against the law, and to do so would be infringing upon their rights more so than yours.

[Marcheria]

Firstly, we feel the same way about your beliefs
Secondly, can you offer any proof that would validate this corruption that is relevant? Just saying "its bad because I think God says its bad" is not an argument.

If they try to make my child consider being homosexual, or they say that it is 'acceptable', they are corrupting them. I dont want my child influenced by those I consider defiled and nearly sub-human.

Just like most people wouldnt want a pedophile as their child's teacher, I dont want a queer teaching my child anything. At least not an open queer.

Your child won't be influenced into being homosexual. They will realize it on their own, because homosexuality is just an inborn trait. And I won't even comment on the fact that you consider homosexuals subhuman. The things I want to say right now would get me banned from this site.

[Ceannairceach]

They don't teach kids anything (unless they are teachers, in which case they teach math, history, etc.). They allow kids to make their own choices.

Not the ones I met...

I doubt you've so much as seen a homosexual, let alone actually met one.