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Postby Coffee Cakes » Wed May 18, 2011 7:17 pm

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That's about right.
I don't have a problem with flamboyant types, but sometimes, I don't know... trying to find the right words here... like um... ah forget it, it'll get ridiculed anyway...

It's ok if you're scared of them. As long as you support their rights...


Nah, I'm not scared of them, it's just that sometimes, it can be uncomfortable... I think that's the word I'm looking for. But the funny thing is that flamboyant straights are also uncomfortable to be around. For me at least... even though one of my best friends is such...
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Postby The Ruivan Empire » Wed May 18, 2011 10:25 pm

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Postby The Ruivan Empire » Wed May 18, 2011 10:27 pm

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Boumber wrote:I believe that homosexaulity is wrong. It is just unnatural and disgusting. Think of homosexuality as drugs-its disgusting and wrong and yet people do it anyways. If you want homosexuality legalized, then does that mean you want drugs legalized or how about terrorism.

Drugs should be legal, as it harms no one in its use and is a personal choice. Watch the comparison to terrorism, I don't appreciate being called a terrorist.

That said, homosexuality is natural, about as natural as heterosexuality, simply less prevalent. This shouldn't matter, though. It is disgusting and wrong to you, but not everyone, as this thread proves.

ignore that fool. he is just talking for the sake of talking and its making him look really really stupid.
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Postby Chokistan » Wed May 18, 2011 11:39 pm

Gays and lesbians especially bisexual and transgendered people should have the right to marry, adopt, and live freely without fear of discrimination and hatred. Sexual orientation is an identity, not a choice.

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Postby DaWoad » Thu May 19, 2011 2:41 am

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Norstal wrote:It's ok if you're scared of them. As long as you support their rights...


Nah, I'm not scared of them, it's just that sometimes, it can be uncomfortable... I think that's the word I'm looking for. But the funny thing is that flamboyant straights are also uncomfortable to be around. For me at least... even though one of my best friends is such...

It can be uncomfortable to be hit on by anyone who you're not interested in irregardless of their sex and your orientation. I've never found that being hit on by guys is any more uncomfortable than being hit on by a woman I'm just not interested in. Same general problems, same easy solution *shrugs*
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Postby -St George » Thu May 19, 2011 2:54 am

In the end wrote:Personally I think its disgusting disgracefull & they can all go rot in hell, because u can not have a kid by stickin a dick in a mans ass & u can't have a kid by a chick puttin a strapon on & screwin the other ladies pussy it just ain't right natural or normal, hell have u read the bible
The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.

Now politically ya their people I shouldn't judge em they hve the same right 2 have marital "bliss" or as some would say hell, just causei & god don't aprove doesn't mean it should b restricted just cause some of us don't agree that's wat makes america great the freedom 2 do as u pleas, I may disagree 100% of who u want 2 b but I will fight 2 the death 2 make sure we both have the right 2 b who we want

God doesn't approve or disapprove.
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Postby Magna Bavaria » Thu May 19, 2011 5:50 am

-St George wrote:
In the end wrote:Personally I think its disgusting disgracefull & they can all go rot in hell, because u can not have a kid by stickin a dick in a mans ass & u can't have a kid by a chick puttin a strapon on & screwin the other ladies pussy it just ain't right natural or normal, hell have u read the bible
The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.

Now politically ya their people I shouldn't judge em they hve the same right 2 have marital "bliss" or as some would say hell, just causei & god don't aprove doesn't mean it should b restricted just cause some of us don't agree that's wat makes america great the freedom 2 do as u pleas, I may disagree 100% of who u want 2 b but I will fight 2 the death 2 make sure we both have the right 2 b who we want

God doesn't approve or disapprove.


God said not to lie down with a man like one lies down with a woman. Roughly translated from the Dutch bible.

EDIT: quote & typo
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Postby Bottle » Thu May 19, 2011 6:01 am

Magna Bavaria wrote:
-St George wrote:The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.


God doesn't approve or disapprove.


God said not to lie down with a man like one lies down with a woman. Roughly translated from the Dutch bible.

EDIT: quote & typo

Zeus said to take the form of a swan and rape maidens. So?
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Postby -St George » Thu May 19, 2011 6:02 am

Magna Bavaria wrote:
-St George wrote:The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.


God doesn't approve or disapprove.


God said not to lie down with a man like one lies down with a woman. Roughly translated from the Dutch bible.

EDIT: quote & typo

No, he didn't. The passage you're thinking of is apart of Leviticus, which is a book of Priestly rules and so doesn't apply to non-clergy. Nor does it apply to clergy either, as Leviticus is apart of the Old Covenant, which even in the 4th century AD had been replaced with the New Covenant and thus wasn't relevant there.
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Postby Georgism » Thu May 19, 2011 6:04 am

Bottle wrote:
Magna Bavaria wrote:
God said not to lie down with a man like one lies down with a woman. Roughly translated from the Dutch bible.

EDIT: quote & typo

Zeus said to take the form of a swan and rape maidens. So?

Zeus isn't in the Bible.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 19, 2011 6:05 am

Georgism wrote:
Bottle wrote:Zeus said to take the form of a swan and rape maidens. So?

Zeus isn't in the Bible.

It'd be a lot more interesting if he was.
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Postby Magna Bavaria » Thu May 19, 2011 6:10 am

-St George wrote:No, he didn't. The passage you're thinking of is apart of Leviticus, which is a book of Priestly rules and so doesn't apply to non-clergy. Nor does it apply to clergy either, as Leviticus is apart of the Old Covenant, which even in the 4th century AD had been replaced with the New Covenant and thus wasn't relevant there.

Ah, I never knew that was especially for members of the clergy. As a former Jehovah's Witness (turned to Nihilism shortly before I moved out), we were always told that that was the main text when it came to the subject of homosexuality.

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Postby Hadari » Thu May 19, 2011 6:12 am

I was always curious what rights they wanted outside of marriage and adoption.

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Postby Bottle » Thu May 19, 2011 6:12 am

Georgism wrote:
Bottle wrote:Zeus said to take the form of a swan and rape maidens. So?

Zeus isn't in the Bible.

So?

I mean, I know y'all are debating the Bible and all, but I feel it is important to remember that the Bible isn't special. To many of us, it's no more relevant to this subject than Harry Potter. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the Christian God is completely and utterly irrelevant to literally billions of people.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu May 19, 2011 6:12 am

Hadari wrote:I was always curious what rights they wanted outside of marriage and adoption.

Equal ones. ;]

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Postby Tekania » Thu May 19, 2011 6:13 am

Magna Bavaria wrote:God said not to lie down with a man like one lies down with a woman. Roughly translated from the Dutch bible.

EDIT: quote & typo


In Levitus, and I'm fairly certain neither you nor I are a Levite let alone Hebrew Priest, and neither are most of the homosexuals I know. Leviticus is a book of laws applying to the levitical Priestly order to set them apart and apply special rules upon them for their office. The rules there do not apply in general to all of Hebrews, let alone Christians. This is also where the prohibitions about hair-cuts, tatoos, beard-trimmings and mixed fabrics come from.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 19, 2011 6:19 am

Hadari wrote:I was always curious what rights they wanted outside of marriage and adoption.

Protection from discrimination based on their orientation, I expect.
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Postby The Walking Paradox » Thu May 19, 2011 6:23 am

Well Romans 10:13 says....uhm...well the bible said...that...uhhh....you can't sleep with other men.....uhhhmmm

*Tries to think of other religious rationale as not to admit to the clear position of hate*
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Postby Georgism » Thu May 19, 2011 6:25 am

Bottle wrote:
Georgism wrote:Zeus isn't in the Bible.

So?

I mean, I know y'all are debating the Bible and all, but I feel it is important to remember that the Bible isn't special. To many of us, it's no more relevant to this subject than Harry Potter. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the Christian God is completely and utterly irrelevant to literally billions of people.

Myself included. However they were specifically debating whether or not the Bible/Christian God condemns teh gays. Thus Zeus was irrelevant to the conversation.
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Postby Georgism » Thu May 19, 2011 6:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Hadari wrote:I was always curious what rights they wanted outside of marriage and adoption.

Protection from discrimination based on their orientation, I expect.

And the rights to public buttsex, to turn our children into gheys and to ruin our traditional family values I'll bet.
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Postby Flameswroth » Thu May 19, 2011 7:09 am

Bottle wrote:Zeus said to take the form of a swan and rape maidens. So?

While I get the reason why you said it, I don't think Zeus ever commanded humanity to 'swanify himself before GOD' and rape maidens. That's just what he did, because he was alpha like that.

I mean, you could argue he was teaching us by example or something, but aside from very explicit commands to specific individuals I don't recall the Greek gods really...commanding anything, if you follow me.
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Postby Zombie land of awsome » Thu May 19, 2011 7:16 am

Daircoill wrote:
Great Agram wrote:you are not tolerant.

this is a paradox of all pro-gay assotiations. they are not tolerant to other who do not like gays but in another hand they are seeking to be tolerated.


I am tolerant of your right to dislike homosexuals. i am intolerant of anybody who calls for the death of another human being.

ha you told him off lol i agree :clap:

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Postby -St George » Thu May 19, 2011 7:16 am

The Walking Paradox wrote:Well Romans 10:13 says....uhm...well the bible said...that...uhhh....you can't sleep with other men.....uhhhmmm

*Tries to think of other religious rationale as not to admit to the clear position of hate*

Romans 10:13: For whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved

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Postby Hadari » Thu May 19, 2011 7:21 am

Well I ask because when ever they have some pro gay thing going on they seem to advertise how much they don't want to be teased or made fun of understandable but I'm of the suck it up opinion.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 19, 2011 7:26 am

Georgism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Protection from discrimination based on their orientation, I expect.

And the rights to public buttsex, to turn our children into gheys and to ruin our traditional family values I'll bet.

Dude, he already said marriage and adoption.
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