What is your view on homosexual rights and why?

[Trotskylvania]

My views:

What goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults is nobody's business but their own. Marriage and adoption should be afforded to all couples regardless of gender. Sexual orientation/preference should not be grounds for discrimination in hiring or joining the military.

What if consenting adults are in their bedroom, plotting to overthrow the government and institute a fascist dictatorship?

Is it still not my business?

And if they are as public with their affections as a straight couple, is it now somebody's "business"?

[Unhealthy2]

haha must we? I don't think furries should have rights. that's gross.

(JKJK obv)

You do know that, by and large, furries are bi and large, right?

[Norstal]

It's more and more getting to be my preferred term for the whole gambit of lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgendered and other genderqueer in the movement. It's a fair sight shorter, inclusive, and easier to say than "those who do not fit the heteronormative value"

And it's sure as hell shorter than that borg collective of an acronym LGBTQIAF. I added the 'F' for furries, because the thing is eventually going to eat up the whole alphabet anyway, so I might as well speed up the process.

D for Dunmer. *nods*

[Unhealthy2]

What if consenting adults are in their bedroom, plotting to overthrow the government and institute a fascist dictatorship?

Is it still not my business?

Depends. Are they likely to have any impact? If not, then they're probably a good source of infinite amusement.

[Unhealthy2]

D for Dunmer. *nods*

Also ZN for zombies and necrophiliacs.

[Shikkago]

Meh, I think that the government has no place in the bedroom personally.

I disagree with the now-majority opinion that homosexuality is just A-OK, but I don't let my personal views affect my political views when it comes to petty issues like sexual orientation.

I think it's really awesome that you are fuckin' smart enough to separate your personal morals from politics, more ppl should do that. I think you're probably smart enough to challenge whatever misconceptions you might have about the immorality of an individuals gender/sex preferences, which have a biological origin and are not intrinsically harmful. Only because you are clearly one of the good guys at heart, keepin' the govt out of the bedroom & all, and I think that it can be very liberating to shake off one's old prejudices, it could really improve your life. Just a friendly suggestion, man.

[Glorious Norway]

Isn't paedophilia also something with which one is born?

[Trotskylvania]

It's more and more getting to be my preferred term for the whole gambit of lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgendered and other genderqueer in the movement. It's a fair sight shorter, inclusive, and easier to say than "those who do not fit the heteronormative value"

And it's sure as hell shorter than that borg collective of an acronym LGBTQIAF. I added the 'F' for furries, because the thing is eventually going to eat up the whole alphabet anyway, so I might as well speed up the process.

Let's add "O" for otherkin as well. And P for "polyamorous"...

Hmm... maybe we can shoe-horn in "S" for swingers and maybe another "O" (perhaps O' ) for open-relationship?

[Sucrati]

They are Human Beings, not animals.

I think government has no right in regulating the behavior of it's citizens, however, the behavior that would cause any harm to others should be dealt with no mercy.

[Norstal]

Isn't paedophilia also something with which one is born?

Sure. But they don't have to have sex with them.

[Wikkiwallana]

D for Dunmer. *nods*

Also ZN for zombies and necrophiliacs.

I hate all of you.

[Unhealthy2]

Let's add "O" for otherkin as well. And P for "polyamorous"...

Hmm... maybe we can shoe-horn in "S" for swingers and maybe another "O" (perhaps O' ) for open-relationship?

And M for mammals, R for reptiles, E for extreme fetishes, and A for all other things we missed. Don't forget V for vanilla.

[Trotskylvania]

They are Human Beings, not animals.

I think government has no right in regulating the behavior of it's citizens, regardless of what TYPE of behavior it is.

Clearly murder is "A-Ok" in your book, and the police are to be opposed for attempting to bring that heroic murderer to justice. After all, the government shouldn't regulate the behavior of its citizens, regardless of the type of behavior.

In case the pattern wasn't clear, I dislike unthinking platitudes.

[Norstal]

Let's add "O" for otherkin as well. And P for "polyamorous"...

Hmm... maybe we can shoe-horn in "S" for swingers and maybe another "O" (perhaps O' ) for open-relationship?

And M for mammals, R for reptiles, E for extreme fetishes, and A for all other things we missed. Don't forget V for vanilla.

Great! Now we just have to include Θ and ɶ.

[Sucrati]

Let's add "O" for otherkin as well. And P for "polyamorous"...

Hmm... maybe we can shoe-horn in "S" for swingers and maybe another "O" (perhaps O' ) for open-relationship?

And M for mammals, R for reptiles, E for extreme fetishes, and A for all other things we missed. Don't forget V for vanilla Vendetta.

Get it right

[Unhealthy2]

Great! Now we just have to include Θ and ɶ.

Hey, we better include 畑 and 呉 as well or I'm not playing anymore.

[Shikkago]

Isn't paedophilia also something with which one is born?

reeeeeeally?



sure, so is serial killing to an extent. WTF does that have to do with anything?


a child is incapable of consenting to sex with an adult, therefore any adult that attempts to have sex with a child is raping them, always, it's always bad, we all agree on this obviously.

Homosexuals are, by definition, not pedophiles.

An adult that wants to have sex with another adult is a completely different topic. Pedophilia has fucking NOTHING more to do with homosexuality than it does with heterosexuality, more like less to do with it.

Consensual adult sexual/romantic activity is not intrinsically immoral, ignorant persecution and discrimination pretty much is, that's at the heart of the matter.

Biological origin does not singularly determine an action's morality, REASON (tempered a bit perhaps with emotion, inevitably) does. Even if my sexual attraction were a choice, which it fuckin' ain't, there is nothing immoral about feelings of attraction.

[Wiztopia]

Isn't paedophilia also something with which one is born?

reeeeeeally?



sure, so is serial killing to an extent. WTF does that have to do with anything?


a child is incapable of consenting to sex with an adult, therefore any adult that attempts to have sex with a child is raping them, always, it's always bad, we all agree on this obviously.

Homosexuals are, by definition, not pedophiles.

An adult that wants to have sex with another adult is a completely different topic. Pedophilia has fucking NOTHING more to do with homosexuality than it does with heterosexuality, more like less to do with it.

Consensual adult sexual/romantic activity is not intrinsically immoral, ignorant persecution and discrimination pretty much is, that's at the heart of the matter.

I hope you're not throwing teens under that "child" list.

[Sith Korriban]

The LGBTQIA community is very near and dear to me. Having many gay friends and family, this is something I feel passionately about. They are no different from straight people. I find it to be extremely ridiculous that this is still being debated. Why should anyone be denied their RIGHTS just because of who they love/are attracted to? It shouldn't be complicated. They deserve the exact same rights as EVERYONE else. Period.

I agree fully, with one exception. That frankensteinian monstrosity of an acronym has to be stopped before it assimilates the rest of the alphabet. I suggest replacing it with something short but broad in scope so each group doesn't have to get its own letter, say maybe "Sexuality & Gender Equality" so SGE for short?

One of the ones I've encountered is QUILTBAG, which is easier to remember because it actually looks like a word. And has that 'we're all in this together' feel.

In any case, I'm heavily in favour of equal rights.

[Shikkago]

Well hadn't thought of it initially but... yes I absolutely am to an extent, but that's a whole 'nother conservation, one I'd personally rather not get into right this moment. Suffice it to say that basically yes, I do believe it's immoral for an adult to mess around with a teenager.

I also want to point out that there is such a thing as a pedophile who makes the moral decision not to rape children, sometimes undergoing voluntary chemical castration.

But again, homosexuality and pedophilia are two completely different things, by definition.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Meh, I think that the government has no place in the bedroom personally.

I disagree with the now-majority opinion that homosexuality is just A-OK, but I don't let my personal views affect my political views when it comes to petty issues like sexual orientation.

I think it's really awesome that you are fuckin' smart enough to separate your personal morals from politics, more ppl should do that. I think you're probably smart enough to challenge whatever misconceptions you might have about the immorality of an individuals gender/sex preferences, which have a biological origin and are not intrinsically harmful. Only because you are clearly one of the good guys at heart, keepin' the govt out of the bedroom & all, and I think that it can be very liberating to shake off one's old prejudices, it could really improve your life. Just a friendly suggestion, man.

I like you, man. The way you write is like, totally chill.

[Sucrati]

They are Human Beings, not animals.

I think government has no right in regulating the behavior of it's citizens, regardless of what TYPE of behavior it is.

Clearly murder is "A-Ok" in your book, and the police are to be opposed for attempting to bring that heroic murderer to justice. After all, the government shouldn't regulate the behavior of its citizens, regardless of the type of behavior.

In case the pattern wasn't clear, I dislike unthinking platitudes.

I happened to CORRECT my reply but you quoted me while I was fixing it, so, read it again.

[Unhealthy2]

Yes I absolutely am to an extent, but that's a whole 'nother conservation, one I'd personally rather not get into right this moment. Suffice it to say that basically yes, I do believe it's immoral for an adult to mess around with a teenager.

I don't think it's inherently bad for an adult to have sex with a teenager. A child, well, it's almost always harmful, so yeah. However, it's only because of our attitude toward teenage sexuality that having sex with a teenage can damage them. However, even though it's mostly just societal convention, since it can harm them, I say you shouldn't do it. However, I still hold that it's not inherently wrong.

[Shikkago]

I think it's really awesome that you are fuckin' smart enough to separate your personal morals from politics, more ppl should do that. I think you're probably smart enough to challenge whatever misconceptions you might have about the immorality of an individuals gender/sex preferences, which have a biological origin and are not intrinsically harmful. Only because you are clearly one of the good guys at heart, keepin' the govt out of the bedroom & all, and I think that it can be very liberating to shake off one's old prejudices, it could really improve your life. Just a friendly suggestion, man.

I like you, man. The way you write is like, totally chill.

haha thanks; well I figure could roll in here all pissed off and be a dick to everybody- or I can enjoy myself and maybe learn something, teach something... so whatever, take the laughs when you can I guess and don't let the bastards get you down.

[The Rich Port]

I'm all for them.