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Postby Dakini » Mon May 09, 2011 2:36 pm

DaWoad wrote:
Dakini wrote:I don't know that attacking the argument that way is entirely fine though. I have would suspected not, but I guess since no modly action has come down, calling an argument fucking stupid is fine?

yep. unless it gets into the trolling/flamebait/inappropriate for pg13 area

Fair enough. I usually try to avoid that to be on the safe side. :P

Although it looks like I missed the post that did have flaming in it.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon May 09, 2011 2:38 pm

Belkaros wrote:Wow, you are actually too stupid to argue with. None of what you just said is remotely accurate, other than the debt to China. I am done arguing with someone so completely ignorant.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon May 09, 2011 2:39 pm

Norstal wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:Wow, you are sad. Your just like those American right-wing or left-wing nutters. I hate the US government and its society, but not the people. To hate the US people, I would hate some of my cousins. I LOVE my cousins, ergo I could not hate Americans, ergo I do not hate all life, ergo I am not pro-genocide, ergo you are the foolish one. And I'm not pro-life or pro-choice; I am who I am, ergo I have my own beliefs and values based on actual LOGIC and my own personal faith (religious) beliefs. I cannot have my faith without the logic to back it up, which I hope everyone can learn to do.

What a bloody liar. You just said that you wanted to kill women who just had an abortion. You realize just how fucking idiotic and stupid that is right? That is stupid on an imaginable scale. That is so stupid, this universe can't contain it alone.

Ergo, you hate people because you want people to DIE after abortion. Which means, you hate people. Again, as a pro-lifer, politicians or not, you have to want everyone to live. Even the U.S government.

Your hypocrisy is astounding.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon May 09, 2011 2:40 pm

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Dakini wrote:Generally saying that someone's argument is "fucking idiotic and stupid" and "stupid on an unimaginable scale" is pretty flamey.

"Attack the argument, not the poster". I attacked his argument. Not the poster.

Calling him a "bloody liar" is not attacking the argument.

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Postby Flameswroth » Mon May 09, 2011 2:42 pm

Katganistan wrote:Warned for flaming

Hmm, it's succinct and impactful, but I don't see how it applies to the pro-choice movement. Maybe it could be a sign that has quote tags around various pro-life slurs towards pro-choices, with the warning for flaming underneath or something.

NSG people would probably be the only ones that got it, really, but it'd be pretty funny to those that understood.
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Postby Katganistan » Mon May 09, 2011 2:43 pm

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Katganistan wrote:Warned for flaming

Hmm, it's succinct and impactful, but I don't see how it applies to the pro-choice movement. Maybe it could be a sign that has quote tags around various pro-life slurs towards pro-choices, with the warning for flaming underneath or something.

NSG people would probably be the only ones that got it, really, but it'd be pretty funny to those that understood.

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Postby DaWoad » Mon May 09, 2011 2:49 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Flameswroth wrote:Hmm, it's succinct and impactful, but I don't see how it applies to the pro-choice movement. Maybe it could be a sign that has quote tags around various pro-life slurs towards pro-choices, with the warning for flaming underneath or something.

NSG people would probably be the only ones that got it, really, but it'd be pretty funny to those that understood.

Got a problem with getting called out for calling other people stupid? Take it to moderation.

sigh, Kat dial it down a little, that was in regards to the op. He was looking for a slogan and Flameswroth was simply sayin that "warned for flaming" would make a great slogan though only NSGers would get it.
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Postby Flameswroth » Mon May 09, 2011 2:50 pm

Katganistan wrote:Got a problem with getting called out for calling other people stupid? Take it to moderation.

Nothing of the sort, just getting the topic back on track is all. We're deviated considerably at this point.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Mon May 09, 2011 3:00 pm

Don't Worry, I have an Abortionist.
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Postby Maji Matamu » Tue May 10, 2011 7:22 am

Also, if the OP is very sensitive about, y''know, being male, something like "Her Body, Her Choice" might work. Perhaps "it's her choice when she has her child" is better, as it gives the Nature/Nurture spin that I was talking about many many pages ago.

Some get too long. "Every woman has the right to choose the father of her children" is too long for a poster, but it gets across a deep pro-choice point. Similarly "No woman should be forced to be pregnant" has a deep abiding feeling, but it doesn't fit on a poster. "In an ideal world, abortion could be outlawed -- but this world is not ideal" might also help someone to see that pro-choice people aren't really pro-abortion; they don't necessarily approve of the action, but many merely disapprove of the banning of the action. And again I like the idea of "Outlaw God: ~90% of abortions are acts of God," but it doesn't fit too nicely on a poster unless you use small text for the second part.

Is there a shorter way to phrase any of those?

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Postby Tekania » Tue May 10, 2011 7:30 am

Maji Matamu wrote:Also, if the OP is very sensitive about, y''know, being male, something like "Her Body, Her Choice" might work. Perhaps "it's her choice when she has her child" is better, as it gives the Nature/Nurture spin that I was talking about many many pages ago.

Some get too long. "Every woman has the right to choose the father of her children" is too long for a poster, but it gets across a deep pro-choice point. Similarly "No woman should be forced to be pregnant" has a deep abiding feeling, but it doesn't fit on a poster. "In an ideal world, abortion could be outlawed -- but this world is not ideal" might also help someone to see that pro-choice people aren't really pro-abortion; they don't necessarily approve of the action, but many merely disapprove of the banning of the action. And again I like the idea of "Outlaw God: ~90% of abortions are acts of God," but it doesn't fit too nicely on a poster unless you use small text for the second part.

Is there a shorter way to phrase any of those?


You highlight a statical problem with the pro-life movement as well. That is the belief that everyone who would not abort their own child, or who thinks, personally that abortion is over-used is part of the "pro-life" movement. This likely is connected to their absurdity of painting their opposition as "pro-abortion"... We're not "pro-abortion" we're "pro-choice", that is pro-the-right-of-women-to-choose, which includes their choice NOT to have one.... It is by this misrepresentation that they paint their movement has having so much more support than it actually does.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Tue May 10, 2011 7:44 am

It's not a baby. It's a choice.
Keep your womb clean. Take out the garbage.
What part of unwanted don't you people understand?
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Postby Nulono » Tue May 10, 2011 8:21 am

"Why not make reproductive choice retroactive? Whom would it harm, you know, except for the offspring?"

"I say love everyone. And those you don't love, kill. That way you can love everyone again."
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Tue May 10, 2011 2:52 pm

Katganistan wrote:Calling him a "bloody liar" is not attacking the argument.


It's also nowhere near flaming unless this entire forum has a devastating case of butthurt.
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Postby Soviet Commu-Facism » Tue May 10, 2011 3:02 pm

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Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:What? Where did I say ANYWHERE that woman who get an abortion should be killed? I did NOT say that. Once more, I'm not a pro-lifer, I am an individual who uses logic and who makes decisions that suit certain situations. Which is why I somewhat support abortion. But please, find where I said that women who abort should be killed, because I know I would not have said something that stupid.

So why did you compare it to the death penalty then. Aren't you implying that? :eyebrow:

Nope. I didn't compare it to the death penalty, I defended myself on two fronts before you could attack me on them.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 10, 2011 5:45 pm

Nulono wrote:"Why not make reproductive choice retroactive? Whom would it harm, you know, except for the offspring?"

"I say love everyone. And those you don't love, kill. That way you can love everyone again."


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Postby GeneralHaNor » Tue May 10, 2011 7:29 pm

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Nulono wrote:"Why not make reproductive choice retroactive? Whom would it harm, you know, except for the offspring?"

"I say love everyone. And those you don't love, kill. That way you can love everyone again."


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Postby Pauper Kings » Tue May 10, 2011 7:41 pm

How about:
"please get it out before it ruins my figure"
"support one stop chopping"
"there is only room for one immature, selfish brat in my life"
:?:

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Postby Intangelon » Tue May 10, 2011 7:45 pm

You could go with the Freakonimcs approach: Crime rates drop starting 17 years after Roe v. Wade. NOT A COINCIDENCE.
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Postby Norstal » Tue May 10, 2011 7:47 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Norstal wrote:"Attack the argument, not the poster". I attacked his argument. Not the poster.

Calling him a "bloody liar" is not attacking the argument.

Well, I should say that my eyes failed me on that one. I totally misread them.
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Postby Sith Korriban » Tue May 10, 2011 9:06 pm

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Postby Zeleia » Tue May 10, 2011 9:29 pm

Something along the lines of: "Fetuses are only human until they're old enough to conceive?"

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Postby Sagatagan » Tue May 10, 2011 9:39 pm

Zeleia wrote:Something along the lines of: "Fetuses are only human until they're old enough to conceive?"


Again, I repeat:
"Liberals believe in a right to life beginning at birth. Conservatives believe in a right to life ending at birth."
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue May 10, 2011 11:35 pm

Pauper Kings wrote:How about:
"please get it out before it ruins my figure"
"support one stop chopping"
"there is only room for one immature, selfish brat in my life"
:?:


Yes, because abortion is so trivial.

It's a pity we're looking for catchphrases, because it's hard to condense how the entire anti-abortion platform is so desperate to force births, and then so willing to completely not give a fuck about the mother or offspring afterwards... into a catchy small slogan.
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