Wanted: Clever Pro-Choice Slogans

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:02 pm

Nulono wrote:
Belkaros wrote:
I'm gonna guess the millions of planned, wanted and cared for children born every year. The ones who get aborted would be statistically much more likely to stab, rape and rob those kids. It's called sociology, and it's pretty cool. We don't need more people, we need less.

So we should kill people for crimes they statistically might commit?

An excellent point! :lol:

Yes, that does not seem a logical reason for abortion, especially since many drug peddlers, thugs, gangsters, etc. have something of a chance to change.

by **Norstal** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:02 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Nulono wrote:A fetus is a human.

Only if a seed is a tree, a blank piece of sheet music is a symphony, and a block of marble is a statue.

Hey UH2, I heard you're making a website to place all your math stuff in. So I thought I'd help you by making this. Here you go, enjoy!

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by **Belkaros** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:04 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:
Belkaros wrote:
I'm gonna guess the millions of planned, wanted and cared for children born every year. The ones who get aborted would be statistically much more likely to stab, rape and rob those kids. It's called sociology, and it's pretty cool. We don't need more people, we need less.

Really? I have another theory to having less people, it's called letting the US deal with themselves because they are a cancer to the world. And also the world's largest consumers. And an excellent point about how they might be raised, but then again, I was raised by an abusive father, and know I am planning on going into politics to save other people that might go through what I went through or even worse.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:05 pm

Nulono wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
How many people today can honestly say they wished their father would have masturbated instead? OMFG masturbation must be teh evul! Or, we can recognize the obvious fact that we only have moral obligations to those humans that CURRENTLY exist, and not to anything which might possibly become a human eventually if we let it.

Otherwise, all food items need to be treated like people because they will eventually be used to produce human bodies.

A fetus is a human.
New Asclepion wrote:Well, yea. Again, it's her prerogative to do what she wants. Now, don't turn this into a straw man for "He's saying it's okay if she kills someone!1one" I feel that, if a woman would rather not go through nine months of (mostly) pain for a baby they don't even want, they should have the right to abort instead. It's unfair to decide for someone what should be a medical choice.

You're saying she should be allowed to kill the fetus.
Flameswroth wrote:One slogan that would have been pertinent yesterday:

"Happy Mother's Day!

...Oh wait, nevermind."

That's pretty tasteless. Mother's Day is often terrible for women who have been through abortion.

For your first quote part, I do have to agree. A fetus is a predetermined human being. Unless it dies or is going to come out with defects, it is a totally normal and functioning human. It's like going back in time and killing someone, premature murder that is, or something like that.

Your second part is also a very good point. I believe I know of a girl that got an abortion, so I can only imagine how she felt yesterday.

by **Norstal** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:06 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:
Belkaros wrote:
I'm gonna guess the millions of planned, wanted and cared for children born every year. The ones who get aborted would be statistically much more likely to stab, rape and rob those kids. It's called sociology, and it's pretty cool. We don't need more people, we need less.

Really? I have another theory to having less people, it's called letting the US deal with themselves because they are a cancer to the world. And also the world's largest consumers. And an excellent point about how they might be raised, but then again, I was raised by an abusive father, and know I am planning on going into politics to save other people that might go through what I went through or even worse.

So you hate people. You're in no position to support pro-life. Hypocrite.

by **Nulono** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:06 pm

Zunee wrote:Have a picture of Hitler, Mao, and the leading pro-life/anti-choice pundit, then under that write "Three difficult problems caused by lacking one simple choice."

Edit: In character - Kill everybody that plans to have an abortion. Then kill everybody else.

IIRC, Hitler was wanted.

by **Nulono** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:08 pm

Belkaros wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:AH! Now you have made a rather grand mistake! Abortion is, from my knowledge in Biology 12, NOWHERES NEAR as useful as using umbilical cords from babies that are born! I've heard rumors that people have been able to repair broken backs from that, and here you want to use aborted fetuses that are still only being used for research? Sir or madame, you made a flaw in that statement.

All of that is false. The older a stem cell gets, the less pluripotency it has, meaning it can turn into fewer types of cells. Fresh embryonic stem cells have the ability to become any cell in the body. Also, curing a broken back like that would be international news as important as the discovery of penicillin, not some rumor.

We've done more with ASC though, as they're more manageable. There's also iPSC technology.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:08 pm

Just so everyone remembers, I slightly support abortion, but only because I believe that children have the right to a painless death, and the fact that a woman was raped makes a very gray region in my eyes. But as for the principle of "woman's choice"? It's sick to say that an individual has the right to murder under certain circumstances. With the death penalty, it is an execution being carried out by "society" or in the best interests of it (hopefully).

by **Unhealthy2** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:08 pm

Norstal wrote:Hey UH2, I heard you're making a website to place all your math stuff in. So I thought I'd help you by making this. Here you go, enjoy!

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<html> </html>

Thanks. Here's my theory that explains absolutely everything about everything, and answers every question which can be answered. For those questions that have no valid answer, it explains why they do not.

Here it is.

I also wrote it in this book.

by **Norstal** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:11 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:Just so everyone remembers, I slightly support abortion, but only because I believe that children have the right to a painless death, and the fact that a woman was raped makes a very gray region in my eyes. But as for the principle of "woman's choice"? It's sick to say that an individual has the right to murder under certain circumstances. With the death penalty, it is an execution being carried out by "society" or in the best interests of it (hopefully).

So you hate people. Which means you are in no position to judge anyone based on anything. Remove yourself from this thread because you'll look like an utter fool.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:11 pm

Norstal wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:Really? I have another theory to having less people, it's called letting the US deal with themselves because they are a cancer to the world. And also the world's largest consumers. And an excellent point about how they might be raised, but then again, I was raised by an abusive father, and know I am planning on going into politics to save other people that might go through what I went through or even worse.

So you hate people. You're in no position to support pro-life. Hypocrite.

????? lol wut? I don't hate people, I hate the US and the society that it has created. I have no problem with people and I want to help as many as possible, but the US is the largest consumer nation in the world and only has a few hundred million people living in it. Compare that to Indian and China, each with populations in the billions and, and the fact that they still consume less then the US becomes disturbing.

by **Unhealthy2** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:12 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:For your first quote part, I do have to agree. A fetus is a predetermined human being. Unless it dies or is going to come out with defects, it is a totally normal and functioning human.

Here's Halo 4:

#include <Windows>

int WinMain()
{
return 0;
}

See how it's a totally normal and functioning software program?

by **Norstal** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:13 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:
Norstal wrote:So you hate people. You're in no position to support pro-life. Hypocrite.

????? lol wut? I don't hate people, I hate the US and the society that it has created. I have no problem with people and I want to help as many as possible, but the US is the largest consumer nation in the world and only has a few hundred million people living in it. Compare that to Indian and China, each with populations in the billions and, and the fact that they still consume less then the US becomes disturbing.

You do hate the people living the U.S. Ergo, you hate people. To support pro-life, you have to support ALL lives, even the people who lives in the U.S. Differentiating between those who live in the U.S and those who aren't is not pro-life, but utter discrimination and hatred.

Ergo, you are pro-genocide. Not pro-life. So, again, check your moral compass (if you even have any) and remove yourself from this thread because you look like an utter fucking moron.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:14 pm

Norstal wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:Just so everyone remembers, I slightly support abortion, but only because I believe that children have the right to a painless death, and the fact that a woman was raped makes a very gray region in my eyes. But as for the principle of "woman's choice"? It's sick to say that an individual has the right to murder under certain circumstances. With the death penalty, it is an execution being carried out by "society" or in the best interests of it (hopefully).

So you hate people. Which means you are in no position to judge anyone based on anything. Remove yourself from this thread because you'll look like an utter fool.

Huuu.... I am so tired of people that pull up these pathetic and non-logical arguments against me just in an attempt to prove they are right. Well, I've proven one thing; that my words are making sense, and people don't like that. It's like politics, you will find whatever way you can to pull your opponent apart, no matter how stupid your argument is. Just ask the last leader of the Liberal Party here in Canada. "He said 'you people'". :lol:

by **Belkaros** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:15 pm

Really? I have another theory to having less people, it's called letting the US deal with themselves because they are a cancer to the world. And also the world's largest consumers. And an excellent point about how they might be raised, but then again, I was raised by an abusive father, and know I am planning on going into politics to save other people that might go through what I went through or even worse.

Idk what happened to my last post, but my new text was cut. First, congratulations on beating the odds of your upbringing. Having the US deal with themselves, first off, means nothing grammatically, and even less in the context of this discussion. We aren't talking about the United States, we are talking about abortion. That consumerism by the way, paved the way for the modern world. Thank DARPA for the Internet next time you want to complain about our consumerism. Also, as someone who wants to get into politics, calling the most powerful nation on earth a "cancer" is not a good move, and if you don't believe me, ask Osama bin Laden. Oh wait...

All that aside, someone just made a very valid point in that all of this discussion is irrelevant because a state should have no say over an individual in a way as invasive as controlling reproduction.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:17 pm

Norstal wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:????? lol wut? I don't hate people, I hate the US and the society that it has created. I have no problem with people and I want to help as many as possible, but the US is the largest consumer nation in the world and only has a few hundred million people living in it. Compare that to Indian and China, each with populations in the billions and, and the fact that they still consume less then the US becomes disturbing.

You do hate the people living the U.S. Ergo, you hate people. To support pro-life, you have to support ALL lives, even the people who lives in the U.S. Differentiating between those who live in the U.S and those who aren't is not pro-life, but utter discrimination and hatred.

Ergo, you are pro-genocide. Not pro-life. So, again, check your moral compass (if you even have any) and remove yourself from this thread because you look like an utter fucking moron.

Wow, you are sad. Your just like those American right-wing or left-wing nutters. I hate the US government and its society, but not the people. To hate the US people, I would hate some of my cousins. I LOVE my cousins, ergo I could not hate Americans, ergo I do not hate all life, ergo I am not pro-genocide, ergo you are the foolish one. And I'm not pro-life or pro-choice; I am who I am, ergo I have my own beliefs and values based on actual LOGIC and my own personal faith (religious) beliefs. I cannot have my faith without the logic to back it up, which I hope everyone can learn to do.

by **Belkaros** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:19 pm

Norstal wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:????? lol wut? I don't hate people, I hate the US and the society that it has created. I have no problem with people and I want to help as many as possible, but the US is the largest consumer nation in the world and only has a few hundred million people living in it. Compare that to Indian and China, each with populations in the billions and, and the fact that they still consume less then the US becomes disturbing.

You do hate the people living the U.S. Ergo, you hate people. To support pro-life, you have to support ALL lives, even the people who lives in the U.S. Differentiating between those who live in the U.S and those who aren't is not pro-life, but utter discrimination and hatred.

Ergo, you are pro-genocide. Not pro-life. So, again, check your moral compass (if you even have any) and remove yourself from this thread because you look like an utter fucking moron.

Norstal, I like your style, and I like your moves.

by **Norstal** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:19 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:
Norstal wrote:So you hate people. Which means you are in no position to judge anyone based on anything. Remove yourself from this thread because you'll look like an utter fool.

Huuu.... I am so tired of people that pull up these pathetic and non-logical arguments against me just in an attempt to prove they are right. Well, I've proven one thing; that my words are making sense, and people don't like that. It's like politics, you will find whatever way you can to pull your opponent apart, no matter how stupid your argument is. Just ask the last leader of the Liberal Party here in Canada. "He said 'you people'".

You want to kill women who just had an abortion.

Tell me, what the fuck is logical in that?

by **Gauthier** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:20 pm

This one might hit a core principle:

"If men were the ones to get pregnant, there'd be no such thing as a Pro Life movement!"

by **Nulono** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:22 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:Just so everyone remembers, I slightly support abortion, but only because I believe that children have the right to a painless death, and the fact that a woman was raped makes a very gray region in my eyes. But as for the principle of "woman's choice"? It's sick to say that an individual has the right to murder under certain circumstances. With the death penalty, it is an execution being carried out by "society" or in the best interests of it (hopefully).

Do you support other painless killings as well?

by **Nulono** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:23 pm

Gauthier wrote:This one might hit a core principle:

"If men were the ones to get pregnant, there'd be no such thing as a Pro Life movement!"

Except it's an ad hominem and factually inaccurate, seeing as so many women are pro-life.

by **Norstal** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:23 pm

Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:
Norstal wrote:You do hate the people living the U.S. Ergo, you hate people. To support pro-life, you have to support ALL lives, even the people who lives in the U.S. Differentiating between those who live in the U.S and those who aren't is not pro-life, but utter discrimination and hatred.

Ergo, you are pro-genocide. Not pro-life. So, again, check your moral compass (if you even have any) and remove yourself from this thread because you look like an utter fucking moron.

Wow, you are sad. Your just like those American right-wing or left-wing nutters. I hate the US government and its society, but not the people. To hate the US people, I would hate some of my cousins. I LOVE my cousins, ergo I could not hate Americans, ergo I do not hate all life, ergo I am not pro-genocide, ergo you are the foolish one. And I'm not pro-life or pro-choice; I am who I am, ergo I have my own beliefs and values based on actual LOGIC and my own personal faith (religious) beliefs. I cannot have my faith without the logic to back it up, which I hope everyone can learn to do.

What a bloody liar. You just said that you wanted to kill women who just had an abortion. You realize just how fucking idiotic and stupid that is right? That is stupid on an imaginable scale. That is so stupid, this universe can't contain it alone.

Ergo, you hate people because you want people to DIE after abortion. Which means, you hate people. Again, as a pro-lifer, politicians or not, you have to want everyone to live. Even the U.S government.

Your hypocrisy is astounding.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:25 pm

Belkaros wrote:Really? I have another theory to having less people, it's called letting the US deal with themselves because they are a cancer to the world. And also the world's largest consumers. And an excellent point about how they might be raised, but then again, I was raised by an abusive father, and know I am planning on going into politics to save other people that might go through what I went through or even worse.

Idk what happened to my last post, but my new text was cut. First, congratulations on beating the odds of your upbringing. Having the US deal with themselves, first off, means nothing grammatically, and even less in the context of this discussion. We aren't talking about the United States, we are talking about abortion. That consumerism by the way, paved the way for the modern world. Thank DARPA for the Internet next time you want to complain about our consumerism. Also, as someone who wants to get into politics, calling the most powerful nation on earth a "cancer" is not a good move, and if you don't believe me, ask Osama bin Laden. Oh wait...

All that aside, someone just made a very valid point in that all of this discussion is irrelevant because a state should have no say over an individual in a way as invasive as controlling reproduction.

If we are talking about abortion, then why did you bring up overpopulation? By bringing that up, I rightfully assumed that you would have used the argument against me that there is a food shortage because of that, and I challenged that logic by noting America's over consumerism. Also, Bin Laden should have been dead before that plane hit the first tower. I watched Mike Moore's movie on the whole event, and I don't like Michale Moore that much, but if what he said was true, then American corruption put THE WHOLE WORLD in danger. Try and explain that to the British citizens that have been killed in terrorist attacks. Also, America is not powerful at all. It's businesses are shutting down, it owes TRILLIONS of dollars to China, the military is a pin prick in comparison to China, and the training of US forces pales compared to that of the British SAS and the Israeli MOSSAD.

American consumerism is also what is starving almost the whole world and keeping innocent children working in sweat shops. Nice job achieveing global "freedom".

Lastly, of course the state should not be involved in reproduction, but when actual HUMAN LIVES are at risk, I can't help but feel that morality SHOULD be coming into effect.

by **Gauthier** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:28 pm

Nulono wrote:
Gauthier wrote:This one might hit a core principle:

"If men were the ones to get pregnant, there'd be no such thing as a Pro Life movement!"

Except it's an ad hominem and factually inaccurate, seeing as so many women are pro-life.

You just love threadjacking don't you? Didn't even bother reading the OP, just love to go on your Operation Rescue sponsored tirades in favor of pregnancy-related fatalities and overpopulation.

by **Soviet Commu-Facism** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:28 pm

Norstal wrote:
Soviet Commu-Facism wrote:Wow, you are sad. Your just like those American right-wing or left-wing nutters. I hate the US government and its society, but not the people. To hate the US people, I would hate some of my cousins. I LOVE my cousins, ergo I could not hate Americans, ergo I do not hate all life, ergo I am not pro-genocide, ergo you are the foolish one. And I'm not pro-life or pro-choice; I am who I am, ergo I have my own beliefs and values based on actual LOGIC and my own personal faith (religious) beliefs. I cannot have my faith without the logic to back it up, which I hope everyone can learn to do.

What a bloody liar. You just said that you wanted to kill women who just had an abortion. You realize just how fucking idiotic and stupid that is right? That is stupid on an imaginable scale. That is so stupid, this universe can't contain it alone.

Ergo, you hate people because you want people to DIE after abortion. Which means, you hate people. Again, as a pro-lifer, politicians or not, you have to want everyone to live. Even the U.S government.

Your hypocrisy is astounding.

What? Where did I say ANYWHERE that woman who get an abortion should be killed? I did NOT say that. Once more, I'm not a pro-lifer, I am an individual who uses logic and who makes decisions that suit certain situations. Which is why I somewhat support abortion. But please, find where I said that women who abort should be killed, because I know I would not have said something that stupid.

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