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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 05, 2011 5:17 pm

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Occupied Deutschland wrote:No! You mentioned it! Now the Christmas Carols will start in September! Thanks a lot.

I have seen christmas stuff in august. Doesn't bother me.

I saw a Rockette Christmas dance at a 4th of July parade, officially making it as early as Christmas can be. Anything earlier than that would actually be late.


In 2007 there was a Republican Debate two days earlier in May, and it was much better attended, including front runners. Of course, for all I know, these dudes will be 'front runners' and the people we think are supposed to be won't.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 05, 2011 5:18 pm

Lacadaemon wrote:Why can't the US act normal? This is ridiculous.


Because we are better. Our queer habits and practices are the reason why we are #1 :P

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Postby Quandarm » Thu May 05, 2011 5:27 pm

I am very interested in hearing what Mr. Herman Cain has to say. (but I am a politics nerd)

What I would really like to see is the "prexy "significant other"debates." It would be spouses or partners of current frontrunners taking the place of the candidates themselves. Talk about honesty and epic quotables!
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 05, 2011 5:33 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:Because we are better. Our queer habits and practices are the reason why we are #1 :P

The Republicans disagree.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 05, 2011 5:37 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because we are better. Our queer habits and practices are the reason why we are #1 :P

The Republicans disagree.

AH HA HA HA HA.

Please kill me for that awful pun.


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Postby Hydesland » Thu May 05, 2011 6:17 pm

Majority of them support a 'resumption' of waterboarding.. *sigh*

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 05, 2011 6:23 pm

Hydesland wrote:Majority of them support a 'resumption' of waterboarding.. *sigh*

Take a point away from my attention span, in the 20 minutes between when I last thought of the debate and when it started, I completely forgot and have now missed the first half an hour. I think I might miss out on the last hour as well...so, comment often people so I don't have to watch...

EDIT: Haha, I flipped over to it right before they threw to commercial teasing that the next thing they would do: Talk smack about the people who didn't show up...awesome.
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Postby Aeronos » Thu May 05, 2011 6:27 pm

Is it me or is US politics more election rallying than actual issue handling? :lol:
Maybe it's just because I come from the UK, where it's less presidential and more parliamentarian.
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Postby Augarundus » Thu May 05, 2011 7:39 pm

Ron Paul = obviously the best.
Gary Johnson = ... I don't know; he seemed pretty cool (legalize marijuana, gay marriage, abortion + libertad econ policy). Also, foreign policy = non-interventionist, right?

Hopeful two.

Herman Cain was... well, definitely better than the other two idiots (Paulenty and whatever the hell the other guy is called), still not great. Militarism is big turnoff.

Whatever the other two right-wing idiots are called, they're ridiculously stupid. It was painful to see those Romneyites attempt political speech for 1.5 hours.

Ron Paul = ridiculously awesome (the whole "leave social policy to the state... but still be liberal" thing is kinda' worrying, but he's still awesome). IDK about Gary Johnson; from what I saw, he's cool (he also used to smoke weed, a prerequisite to any good presidential ticket).

Herman Cain sucked, but would probably be the best of ANY (Republican) candidate after those two.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 05, 2011 7:57 pm

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Herman Cain sucked, but would probably be the best of ANY (Republican) candidate after those two.

That little focus group they had seemed all a twitter for Cain after the debate. But since they've apparently given over the entire post mortum to a one on one with Pawlenty, that's not the direction they were hoping it would go...
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu May 05, 2011 8:01 pm

Hydesland wrote:Majority of them support a 'resumption' of waterboarding.. *sigh*

Except RP *cough*

But Ron Paul is one Austrian "economists" who have no idea what a ARIMA is.
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Postby Augarundus » Thu May 05, 2011 8:01 pm

This was a pretty pathetic show.

Ron Paul hardly talked and, though what he said was awesomesauce, I'm concerned about his ability to gather votes.

Johnson seems pretty cool.

Everyone else were Neocons.
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu May 05, 2011 8:02 pm

Augarundus wrote:Ron Paul = obviously the best.
Gary Johnson = ... I don't know; he seemed pretty cool (legalize marijuana, gay marriage, abortion + libertad econ policy). Also, foreign policy = non-interventionist, right?

Hopeful two.

Herman Cain was... well, definitely better than the other two idiots (Paulenty and whatever the hell the other guy is called), still not great. Militarism is big turnoff.

Whatever the other two right-wing idiots are called, they're ridiculously stupid. It was painful to see those Romneyites attempt political speech for 1.5 hours.

Ron Paul = ridiculously awesome (the whole "leave social policy to the state... but still be liberal" thing is kinda' worrying, but he's still awesome). IDK about Gary Johnson; from what I saw, he's cool (he also used to smoke weed, a prerequisite to any good presidential ticket).

Herman Cain sucked, but would probably be the best of ANY (Republican) candidate after those two.

Gary Johnson is the Reason Magazine equivalent of RP.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu May 05, 2011 8:02 pm

Augarundus wrote:Ron Paul = obviously the best.


States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Thu May 05, 2011 8:04 pm

Ron Paul is a poseur. The only reason why he is even vaguely popular is because he occasionally says things that grab the attention of the libertarian crowd. But if you actually stop and examine his behavior in Congress - for example his constantly wittering on about the gold standard when he could actually be asking probing questions of Chairsatan - you'll see that he's just the same as any other ordinary professional politician in his behavior: a blowhard on the stump, but a team player with the rest of the party when it comes to it.

Really the media should do more to expose his posturing. If they did it would quickly be the end of the Ron Paul Revolution, but I suppose if they did that it would set a precedent and the whole applecart would be tipped over.
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Postby Terishany » Thu May 05, 2011 8:05 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Lacadaemon wrote:Why can't the US act normal? This is ridiculous.


Because we are better. Our queer habits and practices are the reason why we are #1 :P


This..
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Postby North Americax » Thu May 05, 2011 8:08 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Augarundus wrote:Ron Paul = obviously the best.


States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.

you are a liberal
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Postby Jedi8246 » Thu May 05, 2011 8:08 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Augarundus wrote:Ron Paul = obviously the best.


States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.

That is just plain ignorance. I laugh. :lol:
That is nothing like what Ron Paul wants.
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Postby Augarundus » Thu May 05, 2011 8:08 pm

Terra Agora wrote:Herman Cain sucked, but would probably be the best of ANY (Republican) candidate after those two.

Gary Johnson is the Reason Magazine equivalent of RP.[/quote]

He seemed awesome.

States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.


1) The abortion thing is a fault of his, but, as far as I know, he's not vocal on that issue, and he personally is pro-abortion (I think). Also, he wouldn't pass legislation on that because he'd be elected as an econ/anti-war president.

2) No, he isn't a theocrat, and he believes that violates the Bill of Rights.
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu May 05, 2011 8:09 pm

Lacadaemon wrote:Ron Paul is a poseur. The only reason why he is even vaguely popular is because he occasionally says things that grab the attention of the libertarian crowd. But if you actually stop and examine his behavior in Congress - for example his constantly wittering on about the gold standard when he could actually be asking probing questions of Chairsatan - you'll see that he's just the same as any other ordinary professional politician in his behavior: a blowhard on the stump, but a team player with the rest of the party when it comes to it.

Really the media should do more to expose his posturing. If they did it would quickly be the end of the Ron Paul Revolution, but I suppose if they did that it would set a precedent and the whole applecart would be tipped over.

Wait your telling me he doesn't ask chairsatan probing questions? Lol hes the only one who does.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu May 05, 2011 8:09 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:
States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.

you are a liberal

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The Parkus Empire wrote:
States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.

That is just plain ignorance. I laugh. :lol:
That is nothing like what Ron Paul wants.

Ron Paul wants states to have virtual total independence from the Feds when making their laws.
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Postby Wamitoria » Thu May 05, 2011 8:09 pm

North Americax wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
States should have the right to ban abortion. Derp.

He'd have it so states could throw you in prison for not going to church.

you are a liberal

And you are a lolburtarian. That doesn't change the fact that Paul would make it easy for states to violate the constitution.
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu May 05, 2011 8:11 pm

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North Americax wrote:you are a liberal

And you are a lolburtarian.1 That doesn't change the fact that Paul would make it easy for states to violate the constitution.2

1 Doubt it
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu May 05, 2011 8:11 pm

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Jedi8246 wrote:That is just plain ignorance. I laugh. :lol:
That is nothing like what Ron Paul wants.

Ron Paul wants states to have virtual total independence from the Feds when making their laws.

Wrong.
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