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Postby The CW Alliance » Wed May 04, 2011 5:05 pm

Zeleia wrote:Teachers say the most insensitive things, yet they preach that "bullying is wrong." I got made fun of by teachers all the time for so many different things. And not once did they ever get in trouble. But if I said something like what they said to me I would be in detention in a heartbeat. Teachers need to learn that they are role models and shouldn't take actions that they would find inappropriate when committed by students.

Ik. My eigth grade language teacher made that year a living hell because he had it out for me and my friend because we were overweight and talked about wrestling

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Postby North Calaveras » Wed May 04, 2011 5:05 pm

Galla- wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:why do people associate religion with race....retarded.


Race, unlike religion, doesn't exist.


your point?
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Postby Thyilea » Wed May 04, 2011 5:05 pm

Galla- wrote:
Thyilea wrote:Truth.

White people = Fair game.


You realise that is the stereotype right?

White people = racist is about the only stereotype that is actually applied to white people ime.


Which is okay, because whites are, like, racist and stuff.
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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:16 pm

Galla- wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:why do people associate religion with race....retarded.


Race, unlike religion, doesn't exist.


Race does exist o_0. There are genetics involved and a person's features are from their race. I'm not saying its bad, I'm just saying its why african albinos are still considered black, its why white people who look hispanic are considered white and hispanics who look such and such are in their category. Anyways to the topic; that guy is a douchebag, and I hate those kinds of people that have no qualms with saying things like that like the assholes they are, and I'm surprised he didn't get fired.

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Postby Bothnia Minor » Wed May 04, 2011 5:16 pm

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The Truth and Light wrote:He's a Texan. What are you gonna do?


Sell Texas back to Mexico and use the money to fix our budget problems?


Then when they try to stay apart of america we could fund a war against them! Brilliant! :lol:

Anyways back to the subject, yeah theres a ton of people who shouldn't be teachers. I remember one of mine got caught comitting..."explicit acts." But you would never hear about it from the staff, it's all "Hush Hush." But then it doesn't really matter because I've met the kid.

This guy was just ignorant, if America literally died it would be because of people like him...but...hmm...I've never had so much hate for my school system then right now...
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Postby The Floridian Coast » Wed May 04, 2011 5:21 pm

I would have retorted with "I heard your friend who chokes on pretzels couldn't kill him in 8 years in office."
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Postby Jagalonia » Wed May 04, 2011 5:23 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Mythryll wrote:This anti Texan thing is similar to what the teacher did. :palm:

If they didn't prove it so often it wouldn't be an issue.
They just seem to have the highest density of idiots/racists/idiotic-racists that prove it to the rest of the country.

And the highest density of density. :)
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Postby Geniasis » Wed May 04, 2011 5:25 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Race, unlike religion, doesn't exist.


Race does exist o_0. There are genetics involved and a person's features are from their race. I'm not saying its bad, I'm just saying its why african albinos are still considered black, its why white people who look hispanic are considered white and hispanics who look such and such are in their category. Anyways to the topic; that guy is a douchebag, and I hate those kinds of people that have no qualms with saying things like that like the assholes they are, and I'm surprised he didn't get fired.


The genetic variation is miniscule at best. Race is almost entirely a social construct. Especially once we start talking about 'mixed-race' people.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:29 pm

Galla- wrote:Race, unlike religion, doesn't exist.


It absolutely does exist. As a social construct if nothing else.

Obviously in this context he meant ethnic background, regardless of the biological merits of the existence of "race".
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Postby Caninope » Wed May 04, 2011 5:29 pm

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Geniasis wrote:We didn't do State exams at my school.

Must've been before "No Child Left Behind" then, that's a core part of the "Accountability" section of that policy.

NCLB applies to public schools, not private.
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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:31 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Hallistar wrote:
Race does exist o_0. There are genetics involved and a person's features are from their race. I'm not saying its bad, I'm just saying its why african albinos are still considered black, its why white people who look hispanic are considered white and hispanics who look such and such are in their category. Anyways to the topic; that guy is a douchebag, and I hate those kinds of people that have no qualms with saying things like that like the assholes they are, and I'm surprised he didn't get fired.


The genetic variation is miniscule at best. Race is almost entirely a social construct. Especially once we start talking about 'mixed-race' people.


I suppose the genetic variation may not be much, but it is not that insignifigant, I doubt race is just mainly a social construct, it is..more or less a reality there are still genetic differences (melanin, athletic features, body development) and that would affect the different races, mixed race people would still have two or more races in them, I guess it is though kinda a social construct since it wouldnt make thhat much difference, but still
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:34 pm

Galla- wrote:White people = racist is about the only stereotype that is actually applied to white people ime.


And even still... that's a bad stereotype. In fact, everyone who makes that stereotype, is racist - and therefore a hypocrite.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:38 pm

Hallistar wrote:I suppose the genetic variation may not be much, but it is not that insignifigant, I doubt race is just mainly a social construct, it is..more or less a reality there are still genetic differences (melanin, athletic features, body development) and that would affect the different races, mixed race people would still have two or more races in them, I guess it is though kinda a social construct since it wouldnt make thhat much difference, but still


Wiki says this:

In the early twentieth century it was often used as a biological term, race denoting genetically divergent human populations that can be marked by common phenotypic traits.[1] This sense of race is still often used by forensic anthropologists when analyzing skeletal remains, in biomedical research, and in race-based medicine, both disciplines where race can be used as a proxy for geographic ancestry with some reliability.
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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:42 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Hallistar wrote:I suppose the genetic variation may not be much, but it is not that insignifigant, I doubt race is just mainly a social construct, it is..more or less a reality there are still genetic differences (melanin, athletic features, body development) and that would affect the different races, mixed race people would still have two or more races in them, I guess it is though kinda a social construct since it wouldnt make thhat much difference, but still


Wiki says this:

In the early twentieth century it was often used as a biological term, race denoting genetically divergent human populations that can be marked by common phenotypic traits.[1] This sense of race is still often used by forensic anthropologists when analyzing skeletal remains, in biomedical research, and in race-based medicine, both disciplines where race can be used as a proxy for geographic ancestry with some reliability.


Well yeah geographic ancestry does play a role in races and it would allow a reverse search, but its not like besides that race dosen't exist, it does, the common human genes are more prevalent than race-specific, but you do still have things like inherited things (I believe...sickle cell was one of them if correct, also things like diabetes), physical features, some athletic abilities like speed or strength, but I guess the race thing is mainly based on geographical location because those places are what caused certain things to be inherited like melanin levels and like certain body functions and like if you're pear shaped or apple shaped

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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:46 pm

On a side note to the topic; I'm not sure if the ignorant dumbass teacher ever did any research, but Osama killed more muslims than he did nonmuslims by a wide margin, the pakistani government alone is estimating it at 30,000 , and the problem with Osama's ideology when it came to killing that would affect muslims too is that they would go to heaven, when in reality I'm not sure of one person who would want to get blown up alongside him, and I'm pretty sure them being told that they would go to heaven still wouldn't convince them to let themselves die over something thats not gauranteed...if anything the teacher would think that the family would be even more relieved from his death than non-muslims

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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:46 pm

Hallistar wrote:Well yeah geographic ancestry does play a role in races and it would allow a reverse search, but its not like besides that race dosen't exist, it does, the common human genes are more prevalent than race-specific, but you do still have things like inherited things (I believe...sickle cell was one of them if correct, also things like diabetes), physical features, some athletic abilities like speed or strength, but I guess the race thing is mainly based on geographical location because those places are what caused certain things to be inherited like melanin levels and like certain body functions and like if you're pear shaped or apple shaped


I guess I read that and the word "phenotype" jumped out at me. But your ramble is also somewhat applicable.

As for sickle-cell, I assume you are referencing the fact that Black people are more likely to be susceptible to it? They are, it is an adaptation that also allows them to be more resistant to Malaria. I'm not sure that speed nor strength are racially dependent.
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Postby Geniasis » Wed May 04, 2011 5:48 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Hallistar wrote:Well yeah geographic ancestry does play a role in races and it would allow a reverse search, but its not like besides that race dosen't exist, it does, the common human genes are more prevalent than race-specific, but you do still have things like inherited things (I believe...sickle cell was one of them if correct, also things like diabetes), physical features, some athletic abilities like speed or strength, but I guess the race thing is mainly based on geographical location because those places are what caused certain things to be inherited like melanin levels and like certain body functions and like if you're pear shaped or apple shaped


I guess I read that and the word "phenotype" jumped out at me. But your ramble is also somewhat applicable.

As for sickle-cell, I assume you are referencing the fact that Black people are more likely to be susceptible to it? They are, it is an adaptation that also allows them to be more resistant to Malaria. I'm not sure that speed nor strength are racially dependent.


Which is a mutation that persisted from those mosquito-rich areas where the cons of sickle-cell were outweighed by the pros of malaria resistance.
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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:49 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Hallistar wrote:Well yeah geographic ancestry does play a role in races and it would allow a reverse search, but its not like besides that race dosen't exist, it does, the common human genes are more prevalent than race-specific, but you do still have things like inherited things (I believe...sickle cell was one of them if correct, also things like diabetes), physical features, some athletic abilities like speed or strength, but I guess the race thing is mainly based on geographical location because those places are what caused certain things to be inherited like melanin levels and like certain body functions and like if you're pear shaped or apple shaped


I guess I read that and the word "phenotype" jumped out at me. But your ramble is also somewhat applicable.

As for sickle-cell, I assume you are referencing the fact that Black people are more likely to be susceptible to it? They are, it is an adaptation that also allows them to be more resistant to Malaria. I'm not sure that speed nor strength are racially dependent.


yeah I know its more resistant to malaria thats why at the end i said it is more inherited based on geographical location, its not that speed or strength are that racially dependent its just like slight differences in abilities, for example racial wise the backgrounds of people who tend to win olympic/international high-end running marathons and sprinting would differ than those in strength competitions and so on
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:51 pm

Geniasis wrote:Which is a mutation that persisted from those mosquito-rich areas where the cons of sickle-cell were outweighed by the pros of malaria resistance.


Right. I guess I just assumed that came with the territory. I mean, if I lived in a place where there was the constant risk of malaria (I live in MN, so mosquito-rich areas are well-known to me, thankfully no malaria, though) I'd probably prefer the mutation myself.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:53 pm

Hallistar wrote:its not that speed or strength are that racially dependent its just like slight differences in abilities, for example racial wise the backgrounds of people who tend to win olympic/international high-end running marathons and sprinting would differ than those in strength competitions and so on


Not that I specifically doubt you, but do you have a specific source you can cite showing such a correlation?

And, though I am far from a "grammar Nazi" as it were... is there any way that you can increase your level of grammar a little bit?
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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:54 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Hallistar wrote:its not that speed or strength are that racially dependent its just like slight differences in abilities, for example racial wise the backgrounds of people who tend to win olympic/international high-end running marathons and sprinting would differ than those in strength competitions and so on


Not that I specifically doubt you, but do you have a specific source you can cite showing such a correlation?

And, though I am far from a "grammar Nazi" as it were... is there any way that you can increase your level of grammar a little bit?


It isn't that speed or strength are that racially dependent, its just like slight differences in abilities, for example; racial wise the backgrounds of people who tend to win olympic/international high-end running marathons and sprinting would differ than those in strength competitions and so on.

I don't think its that big of a deal to be honest.

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Postby Geniasis » Wed May 04, 2011 5:54 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:Right. I guess I just assumed that came with the territory. I mean, if I lived in a place where there was the constant risk of malaria (I live in MN, so mosquito-rich areas are well-known to me, thankfully no malaria, though) I'd probably prefer the mutation myself.


True. The problem though, is that for people whose ancestors carried that beneficial mutation, but have access to modern medicine/live in countries where malaria isn't a huge risk, Sickle Cell is a major liability.

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Postby Hallistar » Wed May 04, 2011 5:57 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Hallistar wrote:its not that speed or strength are that racially dependent its just like slight differences in abilities, for example racial wise the backgrounds of people who tend to win olympic/international high-end running marathons and sprinting would differ than those in strength competitions and so on


Not that I specifically doubt you, but do you have a specific source you can cite showing such a correlation?



I took it from rankings and listings of said high-end competitions and if you look at the racial backgrounds of these people and their profiles you would find that a huge amount of them are like from a specific race, atleast at the top 10 but going below you can also see some trends, also a few other works on the subject I forgot their names though I read them in my biology class but some did have conflicting viewpoints like historical wise..I also stumbled upon a few of someone in particular well known but controversial who i didnt really care much about his political views just as much as like a video or two on like racial evolution but the person themselves isnt saying it to degrade any race just to say that there are differences to acknowledge to promote understanding and acceptance

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Postby Romivul » Wed May 04, 2011 5:58 pm

Yeah, like this one art teacher at my sisters high school who threw a chair across the room and said ''GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY CLASS'' when two girls were fighting.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Wed May 04, 2011 5:59 pm

Hallistar wrote:It isn't that speed or strength are that racially dependent, its just like slight differences in abilities, for example; racial wise the backgrounds of people who tend to win olympic/international high-end running marathons and sprinting would differ than those in strength competitions and so on.

I don't think its that big of a deal to be honest.


I understand your premise, I'm asking for a source to back up that premise. I could do the research myself... but I don't want to. Without a source, I'm going to have to dismiss your claim.

Of course you don't, you're not the one trying to read it. Nonetheless, I'm asking as a favor to myself, and everyone else who has to try to read your posts, please perhaps try a little more to type with good grammar?
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Austin Setzer wrote:We found a couple of ancient documents, turned them into the bible, and now its the symbol of christianity.

ARM Forces wrote:Strep-throat is an infection in the throat, caused by eating too much refined sugar! Rubbing more sugar directly on it is the worst thing you can possibly do.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Communism and anarchy; same unachievable end, different impractical means.

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