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Postby Herskerstad » Tue May 03, 2011 1:19 pm

Big mistake throwing the body overboard. Now conspiracies will never end. Who gives a damn about Muslim burial laws for terrorists at either rate? The guy has been the main target for years, I am sure the Pakistani officials that tipped him off so many times would understand why it would be out of the question of giving one of the wost vile members of mankind a proper burial in accordance with their religion.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue May 03, 2011 1:35 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Big mistake throwing the body overboard. Now conspiracies will never end. Who gives a damn about Muslim burial laws for terrorists at either rate? The guy has been the main target for years, I am sure the Pakistani officials that tipped him off so many times would understand why it would be out of the question of giving one of the wost vile members of mankind a proper burial in accordance with their religion.

Well, it's done. People now have a choice: focus on blather about "Was it really Osama they killed?" or focus on moving the country ahead. I choose the latter.

And let me add that while abusing and desecrating his body seems to have a wide appeal, we often accuse terrorists of behaving like barbarians. Behaving like barbarians ourselves denies us the "moral high ground" we're so fond of taking.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Tue May 03, 2011 2:15 pm

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Postby Principia Moderni » Tue May 03, 2011 2:31 pm

There are over a billion muslims in the world today. We killed ONE. We've still got alot of work to do.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Tue May 03, 2011 2:33 pm

Principia Moderni wrote:There are over a billion muslims in the world today. We killed ONE. We've still got alot of work to do.


That only makes two.

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Postby Whispered lies » Tue May 03, 2011 2:37 pm

fools, alkaida(or however it is properly spelt) in this instance will be like a hydra. you cut one head off two shall sprout possibly wrse than the last...at least bin laden had a right to fear these possible new heads will only have a 'need' for vengance. end the circle, voilence begets violence.

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Postby JuNii » Tue May 03, 2011 2:54 pm

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Postby Shofercia » Tue May 03, 2011 3:03 pm

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If anything, this proved that elite infantry operations are better than massive bombing campaigns when you want to carry out a "surgical strike". It was a bit of a no-brainer for the average guy in the street, but not so for the brass...


It's actually common sense, but the brass and the military industrial complex want their new shiny equipment. It looks great, (huzzah for brass,) and is expensive, (huzzah for military industrial complex,) but it's rather stupid, like knights going against crossbowmen, or the Prince of Wales trying to take on Japanese fighters. Expensive + fancy makes money for the military industrial complex, and gives the brass plenty of room for photo ops, but in battle, they aren't effective enough to justify their expenditure. Almost all of Al Qaeda's leaders were taken out by special forces, not surgical strikes.
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Postby Czardas » Tue May 03, 2011 3:04 pm

Principia Moderni wrote:There are over a billion muslims in the world today. We killed ONE. We've still got alot of work to do.

Suggesting that all muslims must be killed is trolling. Do not do it again.
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Postby Andaluciae » Tue May 03, 2011 3:25 pm

Whispered lies wrote:fools, alkaida(or however it is properly spelt) in this instance will be like a hydra. you cut one head off two shall sprout possibly wrse than the last...at least bin laden had a right to fear these possible new heads will only have a 'need' for vengance. end the circle, voilence begets violence.


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Postby Herskerstad » Tue May 03, 2011 3:30 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Big mistake throwing the body overboard. Now conspiracies will never end. Who gives a damn about Muslim burial laws for terrorists at either rate? The guy has been the main target for years, I am sure the Pakistani officials that tipped him off so many times would understand why it would be out of the question of giving one of the wost vile members of mankind a proper burial in accordance with their religion.

Well, it's done. People now have a choice: focus on blather about "Was it really Osama they killed?" or focus on moving the country ahead. I choose the latter.

And let me add that while abusing and desecrating his body seems to have a wide appeal, we often accuse terrorists of behaving like barbarians. Behaving like barbarians ourselves denies us the "moral high ground" we're so fond of taking.


I am not saying that we should desecrate his body. God knows he deserves to be rolled up in bacon, dipped in wine and feed to the dogs. I am saying have a full autopsy, *They are going to release the gunshot wounds at either rate* then dump him in some ditch which no one knows about, so not to make a place of pilgrimage.

The problem is that the conspiracies will never end, and dumping the body in a burial in accordance to their laws would not really be needed in such a situation. Having that requested is just as awry as actually complying with it. The US owes Osama no courtesy, nor does Pakistan. It should be a no-issue, and his body should have been brought to US soil.
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Postby Ashmoria » Tue May 03, 2011 3:30 pm

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Ashmoria wrote:if it was a decoy it was one of his brothers. they did a dna test.


I just looked back at my post and it sounds a bit 'conspiracy theory' for me (I didn't know about the DNA tests at the time). Don't take this the wrong way, people--I never believed in those possibilities for a second, I just brought them up for discussion's sake.

Now I'm starting to think a lot about whether we should keep pumping $20 billion of aid into Pakistan. I mean, how hard is it to realize there's something strange going on in a compound in the middle of a populated area that's 30 miles from the capital city and a stone's throw from a MILITARY CAMP? No wonder Obama didn't trust Pakistan enough to tell them about the raid.


oh thats OK. my son and i came up with a scenario where bin laden had been dead since 2002 and bush had him stored in a freezer in the whitehouse basement in case he needed the bump in the polls.

obama found the corpse and it took him 2 years to figure out what to do with it. "we gotta drop the corpse into the sea or CNN will notice the freezer burn!"
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 03, 2011 3:42 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Big mistake throwing the body overboard. Now conspiracies will never end.


Who cares? They continue no matter what happens.

Who gives a damn about Muslim burial laws for terrorists at either rate?


Simple. If we were so evil as suggested then we wouldn't have bothered.

The guy has been the main target for years, I am sure the Pakistani officials that tipped him off so many times would understand why it would be out of the question of giving one of the wost vile members of mankind a proper burial in accordance with their religion.


This wasn't done for the sake of Pakistan.......
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Postby Rambhutan » Tue May 03, 2011 3:43 pm

SpudEmpire wrote:Pakistan is about to come under a lot of scrutiny, Bin Laden was withing an earshot of Islamabad and was within sight of the nation's primary military academy. Either the Pakistani government is really that incompetent or they were complicit, either way it doesn't look good.


Not that far from a 'secret' CIA base either though.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 03, 2011 3:44 pm

Herskerstad wrote:The US owes Osama no courtesy, nor does Pakistan. It should be a no-issue, and his body should have been brought to US soil.


:D You really don't understand do you?

I would explain but I suspect it would fall on deaf ears.......
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Postby Principia Moderni » Tue May 03, 2011 4:00 pm

Czardas wrote:
Principia Moderni wrote:There are over a billion muslims in the world today. We killed ONE. We've still got alot of work to do.

Suggesting that all muslims must be killed is trolling. Do not do it again.


I'm not trying to make anyone mad. Have you read the Koran? It scares me :shock:

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Postby The Corparation » Tue May 03, 2011 4:05 pm

Principia Moderni wrote:
Czardas wrote:Suggesting that all muslims must be killed is trolling. Do not do it again.


I'm not trying to make anyone mad. Have you read the Koran? It scares me :shock:

Have you read the bible? IT scares me. :shock:
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Postby The Epic Llama Lords » Tue May 03, 2011 4:06 pm

CNN "Osama bin Laden was not armed but did put up resistance when U.S. forces entered the compound he was in, then killed him, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday."

So, if you were in the situation of the Navy SEAls, would you have killed bin Laden on the spot or taken him into custody, seeing how he was unarmed?

I'd take him into custody and hit him on the head with my gun if he resists, but not kill him. I'd then take him to America to be tried for his crimes.

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Postby Natapoc » Tue May 03, 2011 4:08 pm

Can you link to a source for this? (and to answer your question I'd have done everything possible to take him in alive so that he could be interrogated)
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Postby Zonolia » Tue May 03, 2011 4:09 pm

The Epic Llama Lords wrote:CNN "Osama bin Laden was not armed but did put up resistance when U.S. forces entered the compound he was in, then killed him, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday."

So, if you were in the situation of the Navy SEAls, would you have killed bin Laden on the spot or taken him into custody, seeing how he was unarmed?

I'd take him into custody and hit him on the head with my gun if he resists, but not kill him. I'd then take him to America to be tried for his crimes.

How can one be unarmed but use his wife as a human-meat shield?
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Tue May 03, 2011 4:10 pm

Who cares if he was unarmed. He was better off dead than going to trial.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue May 03, 2011 4:10 pm

The Epic Llama Lords wrote:CNN "Osama bin Laden was not armed but did put up resistance when U.S. forces entered the compound he was in, then killed him, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday."

So, if you were in the situation of the Navy SEAls, would you have killed bin Laden on the spot or taken him into custody, seeing how he was unarmed?

I'd take him into custody and hit him on the head with my gun if he resists, but not kill him. I'd then take him to America to be tried for his crimes.

Source that he was unarmed...?
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Postby Goldsaver » Tue May 03, 2011 4:11 pm

Zonolia wrote:
The Epic Llama Lords wrote:CNN "Osama bin Laden was not armed but did put up resistance when U.S. forces entered the compound he was in, then killed him, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday."

So, if you were in the situation of the Navy SEAls, would you have killed bin Laden on the spot or taken him into custody, seeing how he was unarmed?

I'd take him into custody and hit him on the head with my gun if he resists, but not kill him. I'd then take him to America to be tried for his crimes.

How can one be unarmed but use his wife as a human-meat shield?

His wife is now known to have survived, so it was a different woman that he used and died.
He probably didn't have a gun on him.
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Postby Octanus IV » Tue May 03, 2011 4:13 pm

Goodbye you are dead.
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Postby Natapoc » Tue May 03, 2011 4:14 pm

Seems a real report from CNN that he was unarmed. Hmm this now looks really suspicious.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... 1&iref=NS1

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