Why Are People So Critical About Christian Beliefs

[Conserative Morality]

Your declaration is incorrect.

There is one objective criteria that must be satisfied for one to be called a Christian: acceptance of the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The Phelpsites' embrace of theism, Mosaic law, and the Epistles are all incompatible with that.

No, the one objective criteria to be called a Christian is acceptance of the whole Bible as the absolute and literal word of God.

[The Alma Mater]

Your declaration is incorrect.

There is one objective criteria that must be satisfied for one to be called a Christian: acceptance of the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The Phelpsites' embrace of theism, Mosaic law, and the Epistles are all incompatible with that.

No, the one objective criteria to be called a Christian is acceptance of the whole Bible as the absolute and literal word of God.

That seems rather arbitrary as well. Why can I not salve this piece of dung, call it christ and claim I am a Christian if I worship it ?

[Conserative Morality]

That seems rather arbitrary as well. Why can I not salve this piece of dung, call it christ and claim I am a Christian if I worship it ?

Because my definition is the only one that matters and I will spend the rest of this thread contradicting whoever says otherwise.

[Sociobiology]

in what way?

perhaps the practice of human sacrifice ie the Aztec religion has them as the record holders thousands a day sacrificed to Gods to make the sun rise vs open brethren people giving money to charity and helping needy and self funded travelling to third world countries to help the por and peach their religion hmm its a tough one but id say that their is a difrance

by helping you mean converting them to their religion and only feeding those that attend church services. Only to teach then the dogma of cannibalism, anti-science, and bigotry.

is ruining a million lives really better than ending a few dozen.

and if your really want to include history Lutherans have a great deal of blood and war to answer for.

[Sociobiology]

the absurdity of the Christianity's persecution complex is laughable.
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[Bluth Corporation]

Your declaration is incorrect.

There is one objective criteria that must be satisfied for one to be called a Christian: acceptance of the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The Phelpsites' embrace of theism, Mosaic law, and the Epistles are all incompatible with that.

No, the one objective criteria to be called a Christian is acceptance of the whole Bible as the absolute and literal word of God.

Are you familiar with the meaning of the epithet "Christ"?

[Mosasauria]

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[Central Slavia]

No, the one objective criteria to be called a Christian is acceptance of the whole Bible as the absolute and literal word of God.

Are you familiar with the meaning of the epithet "Christ"?

Yes, the annointed one.
Tough break that the guy claimed to be god's son, necessitating a belief in god

[Bluth Corporation]

Are you familiar with the meaning of the epithet "Christ"?

Yes, the annointed one.
Tough break that the guy claimed to be god's son,

He did no such thing.

[Conserative Morality]

Are you familiar with the meaning of the epithet "Christ"?

Yes, Messiah/The Anointed.

[Central Slavia]

Yes, the annointed one.
Tough break that the guy claimed to be god's son,

He did no such thing.

At the very least he claimed a) his kingdom is not of this world
b) he came to fulfill the old testament.

[Meridiani Planum]

It seems to me that people are just extremely critical of Christian beliefs.

It is in no small part due to the way that some Christians are critical of everyone else's beliefs. You personally may be a tolerant person, but there are many intolerant Christians.

[The Alma Mater]

Are you familiar with the meaning of the epithet "Christ"?

Yes, Messiah/The Anointed.

How many people could call themselves Christ/Annointed at any given time during history ?
I just sprayed deoderant on. Does that make me Christ ?

[Conserative Morality]

How many people could call themselves Christ/Annointed at any given time during history ?
I just sprayed deoderant on. Does that make me Christ ?

No because my opinion is the only one that matters. No True Christian would ever use deodorant.

[The Alma Mater]

How many people could call themselves Christ/Annointed at any given time during history ?
I just sprayed deoderant on. Does that make me Christ ?

No because my opinion is the only one that matters. No True Christian would ever use deodorant.

Are you implying Christians must smell bad to avoid crucifixion ?

[Conserative Morality]

Are you implying Christians must smell bad to avoid crucifixion ?

No.

To avoid being fed to the lions.

[Frankastain]

umm that what i was doping saying as a human i am not in a position to judge a God's behaviour I went further and said only a god could truly understand what being a god is like and pass judgement n the morality od deity's
Chief MacDonald do sent match up as five star chief have as liitle to do with fast food as possible
however most military courts insist only fellow soldiers can try soldiers as a civilan just will not get it that is what i am saying it is called a direct analogy as ahuman i use human ones that i admit are probably not perfect but it it the best o can do.
so asemble your court of dettys and im sure God will stand trial

If that is the case then why do christians shout that god is good?
They are in no position to judge his behaviour.

In fact there are many far nicer gods described. Like Bastet for example :3

Actually, let's think about the court of deities.

Bastet, Anubis,Athena,
Also, at a friend's suggestion: Quetzalcouatl, Vishnu, Apollo, Jupiter Optimus Maximus, Amaterasu, the Lightning Brothers, Odin one-eye, Coyote, Toltiir, Mithra(identity theft!) (i also add Perun to that for the same) , and Sakura.

Witnesses and experts: Job, Baal, Prometheus ... Maybe i think of others.

I do not expect a non Christian to except advanced theology but yes God is unknowable however he has told us things about him self which one can ether except or reject i accept them which makes me a hence the being a Christian

i find fault with your analogy
1
2. a monotheistic god is far more powerful than any of them doing on his own what they often can not do even with cooperation e.g the greek gods didn't wipe out humantiy becoues one of their number had fallen and they where no longer capable of making intelligent life seting it apart on a completely difrent scale
3. are capable of being killed
4.out of all of them how many of them are said to actually love humans and sacrifice for them

compile a new list of detiys that are all powerful and claim to love humans and adopt them as thier children and give them a full inheritance as such asking only to be recognised ie admitting that they are real and I might listen to you about them being "nice"

[Sociobiology]

source

Historians, anthropologists the world over.

gonna have to do better than that unfounded claim.

Michael L White's From Jesus to Christianity
and The Jesus Legend by G A Wells both go over the lack of contemporaneousness references to Jesus, it all comes long after the time of his supposed death. The biblical account is equally late referencing practices that did not occur until much later or events that never happened.

again evidence?

Academic specialists in the ancient world are generally pretty convinced of this. My own field is modern Eastern Europe, so I'll trust their ever-growing body of work.
again source because most archeologist, and historians in the field agree the references to Jesus were not written by eyewitnesses.

Your dissonance is showing

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How is it a religion?

Christians do not believe in a god. They have no ritual practices of any sort, no unique cosmology, no hierarchical structures. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Christianity is a religion.[/quote]

do they believe in the supernatural, do they do so with an semi-consistent and more importantly self-identifying beliefs. gods are not necessary see animism for an outside example.

[The Alma Mater]

If that is the case then why do christians shout that god is good?
They are in no position to judge his behaviour.

In fact there are many far nicer gods described. Like Bastet for example :3

Actually, let's think about the court of deities.

Bastet, Anubis,Athena,
Also, at a friend's suggestion: Quetzalcouatl, Vishnu, Apollo, Jupiter Optimus Maximus, Amaterasu, the Lightning Brothers, Odin one-eye, Coyote, Toltiir, Mithra(identity theft!) (i also add Perun to that for the same) , and Sakura.

Witnesses and experts: Job, Baal, Prometheus ... Maybe i think of others.

I do not expect a non Christian to except advanced theology but yes God is unknowable however he has told us things about him self which one can ether except or reject i accept them which makes me a hence the being a Christian

i find fault with your analogy
1
2. a monotheistic god is far more powerful than any of them doing on his own what they often can not do even with cooperation e.g the greek gods didn't wipe out humantiy becoues one of their number had fallen and they where no longer capable of making intelligent life seting it apart on a completely difrent scale
3. are capable of being killed
4.out of all of them how many of them are said to actually love humans and sacrifice for them

compile a new list of detiys that are all powerful and claim to love humans and adopt them as thier children and give them a full inheritance as such asking only to be recognised ie admitting that they are real and I might listen to you about them being "nice"

I find it amusing that you consider "is able to - and in fact has - wipe(d) out humanity" an argument as to why the Christian god is good, and insinuate that deities who would not even dream about such genocides are not.

[Bluth Corporation]

He did no such thing.

At the very least he claimed a) his kingdom is not of this world

Because the world as it was was behaving less-than-ideally, and so he sought to establish a new world of universal love and brotherhood. He wasn't saying it was independent of the physical world.

b) he came to fulfill the old testament.

No, he didn't. Matthew 5:17 is perhaps the most misinterpreted passage of the entire Gospels. The "law" he was not destroying was the same universal, timeless law of universal love and brotherhood he was preaching; he was not referring to the practices of the time, because they were corrupt and not conducive to the salvation of mankind from self-destruction, and so they were not "law" in any but the basest sense.

[Frankastain]

perhaps the practice of human sacrifice ie the Aztec religion has them as the record holders thousands a day sacrificed to Gods to make the sun rise vs open brethren people giving money to charity and helping needy and self funded travelling to third world countries to help the por and peach their religion hmm its a tough one but id say that their is a difrance

by helping you mean converting them to their religion and only feeding those that attend church services. Only to teach then the dogma of cannibalism, anti-science, and bigotry.

is ruining a million lives really better than ending a few dozen.

and if your really want to include history Lutherans have a great deal of blood and war to answer for.

1 thousands on a normal day more on a special occasional is not a few dozen
2. no i mean like the salvation army s.t Johns first aiders and other charity organization that help people with no preaching involved because Christian religionist practice tell them that they should or to be more pacific to the open brethren i personally know of a group dedicated to bulidng a public children's hospital in India no success yet but things are looking hopeful
3. the founders of the scientific method where all Christian (what body did you thin Darwin spoke to that was christain dominated....) Christianity is the father of modem science as such it is not anti science this is baseless propaganda
3. Cannibalistic practise? not in any open brethren service i've been too
4.history war oppression I think not by the open brethren unless you can give me an example as an atheist i would go their though Stalin communist china not a very good record on that font for the last 50 years this is a classic example of what the o p is talking about however

[Frankastain]

I do not expect a non Christian to except advanced theology but yes God is unknowable however he has told us things about him self which one can ether except or reject i accept them which makes me a hence the being a Christian

i find fault with your analogy
1
2. a monotheistic god is far more powerful than any of them doing on his own what they often can not do even with cooperation e.g the greek gods didn't wipe out humantiy becoues one of their number had fallen and they where no longer capable of making intelligent life seting it apart on a completely difrent scale
3. are capable of being killed
4.out of all of them how many of them are said to actually love humans and sacrifice for them

compile a new list of detiys that are all powerful and claim to love humans and adopt them as thier children and give them a full inheritance as such asking only to be recognised ie admitting that they are real and I might listen to you about them being "nice"

I find it amusing that you consider "is able to - and in fact has - wipe(d) out humanity" an argument as to why the Christian god is good, and insinuate that deities who would not even dream about such genocides are not.

um no they like most have a flood story too any way in case you wher interested in that

i was talking about a different myth that fact that the Greek gods wiped out the first two sapient races they created and would have done the same to us but only didn't not because they where nice but they larked the power to rebuild again because infighting had claimed some of their best and brightest that and each time they did Gaia/ the earth tried to do them in maybe its just me but I like the the God of love and peace
i apologize if i was unclear

[Frankastain]

I am Atheist, Preaching and Debating are two different things. Christians however tend to be poor losers when debates happen. They will never admit that there are other possibilities and often claim that their religion is officially true without question because they have faith........

True because of faith?

That seems like a contradiction to me

I thought fact was something that can be proven and faith was a belief that has no factual backing.

I personally find that religion limits the abilities and critical thinking of human beings by not allowing them to accept other ideals, and that anything different is automatically evil and needs to be killed off. They are also bred and instilled with a sense that they are the higher form of human on this earth and they are so self conceited into believing that their goal is to attack the beliefs they do not agree with of others and convert them to their ideals, either by force (war, inquisition) or modern day harassment such as Jehovah's witness' coming to your door even after telling them you are not interested. I am all in favor of people following their religions, even Christians, but I am absolutfiely against people forcing ideal's down other people's throats especially when they are too stubborn themselves to open up to other ideals. The only group that really exhibits this behavior at least in the Western World on such a large scale are Christians.

i disagree their is a second group evolutionists, prime example Dawkins who admits that he can not explain life with science and will go as far as aliens with supernatural powers did it but, dont call them gods what ever you do that would be bad
on a side note aliens with odd powers / vodo science match some religions gods most notably Scientology so dose that make Dawkins a Scientologist

[You-Gi-Owe]

It seems to me that people are just extremely critical of Christian beliefs. Its not just people disagree and move on they have to comment and mock it and I just want to know why. I've never done that to anyone else's beliefs so why would people do it to me.

I'm sure there's a laundry list of items even larger than what I'm going to post:
1. Egotism. Christianity demands that you acknowledge God and his commandments as superior to one's self and ways as a matter of Faith.
2. Defensiveness of the Ego. The self-centered are generally unwilling to acknowledge superiority in others to the point where no one can have anything in their life beyond what they have or believe those others ought to have.
3. Defense of one's own religious practices. In general, it seems that all religions believe that thier's is the "true path".
4. Upbringing. Like any other prejudice, the other religious sects and the non-religious can indoctrinate the young to have prejudices about Christianity.

[Conserative Morality]

I'm sure there's a laundry list of items even larger than what I'm going to post:
1. Egotism. Christianity demands that you acknowledge God and his commandments as superior to one's self and ways as a matter of Faith.
2. Defensiveness of the Ego. The self-centered are generally unwilling to acknowledge superiority in others to the point where no one can have anything in their life beyond what they have or believe those others ought to have.

Ah, how I love the lengths that Christians are willing to go to in order to denigrate themselves.