Why Are People So Critical About Christian Beliefs

[Johz]

The do not agree with homosexual intercourse, mainly because, currently, gay people cannot be 'married'. However, being gay is not a problem. It's just another sign of a broken world.

A broken world kind of undermines perfect creator. If we were made in gods image, gods image is a little bit gay

Clearly God is fabulous...

No? Anyway, according to base Christian theology, picked up from an ex-Catholic lay reader and two vicars, the Fall was due to Satan, himself a fallen angel, and also due to disobedience. People didn't obey God, and so they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Voila, they know what evil is, they have, in effect, allowed evil into their lives. Before, where there was merely obedience or disobedience, now we're being a bit more creative.

[Niene]

They don't actually do it. But reading some of the comments here, you'd think mocking and insulting religion is justified.

its not necessarily justified but there is a ridiculous idea some religious folk have that because they are 'religious beliefs' they cannot be attacked and are somehow above being questioned.

its a form of control, dont get so upset when we tell you that! i think its fine when people question my socialist arguments because it makes me think critically and have to provide evidence for my beliefs, which is a positive thing. i get called all sorts of names and have the piss ripped out of me all the time for being a 'bolshevik bastard', why is that different from abusing religious people?

give me some evidence (i.e. not a childrens novel) that j-dizzle walked on water, turned water to wine, fed a bunch of people with a tuna sandwich, and i wont take the piss that out of the fact you believe it

No evidence for it.
And you can't really compare political beliefs to religious beliefs, they're a bit too different...

[Bottle]

And you can't really compare political beliefs to religious beliefs, they're a bit too different...

How so?

[Niene]

And you can't really compare political beliefs to religious beliefs, they're a bit too different...

How so?

Political beliefs are basically a set of ethics. Religious beliefs are also a set of ethics, but with a lot of other beliefs as well (belief in God, etc)

[Johz]

A broken world kind of undermines perfect creator. If we were made in gods image, gods image is a little bit gay

The male prostrate does seem to be 'designed' for internal stimulation...

And one's finger is the perfect size for sticking up one's nostril. Correlation implying causation? I think not.

Equally, if one is going to get a bit busy, the male arse is terrible. With no natural lubricant and easily ruptured skin, not to mention natural hygene being compromised if it isn't taken care of sensibly.

[Niene]

The male prostrate does seem to be 'designed' for internal stimulation...

And one's finger is the perfect size for sticking up one's nostril. Correlation implying causation? I think not.

Equally, if one is going to get a bit busy, the male arse is terrible. With no natural lubricant and easily ruptured skin, not to mention natural hygene being compromised if it isn't taken care of sensibly.

[Upper North Yorkshire]

How so?

Political beliefs are basically a set of ethics. Religious beliefs are also a set of ethics, but with a lot of other beliefs as well (belief in God, etc)

they really aren't that different, and even if they were why should one be any more sacrosanct?

[Bottle]

How so?

Political beliefs are basically a set of ethics. Religious beliefs are also a set of ethics, but with a lot of other beliefs as well (belief in God, etc)

Political beliefs usually have a lot of other beliefs mixed in, such as values in regard to racism, homophobia, innocence and guilt, the role of the community, etc.

[Central Slavia]

Christians believe in a violent, backstabbing and lying god.

Au contraire, Christians believe in a loving, omnobenevolent, truthful God. In what places in the Bible does God lie, for goodness sake?

When he swears to himself that for obedience, he'll reproduce Abraham's offspring like the stars in heavens and sand on the seashore?

They have an unatural aversion to gays and non-believers

The do not agree with homosexual intercourse, mainly because, currently, gay people cannot be 'married'. However, being gay is not a problem. It's just another sign of a broken world

Iiinteresting. So, if gay marriage was legalised the church, your one, anyways, would have no objections?
Also... the broken world was made by your almighty god, supposedly. I guess it says a lot about him.

and their biggotry and ignorance in unmatched.

I could show you pictures of famous atheists, including Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, who can certainly match a good bit of Christian biggotry, and we've spen millenia institutionalising it. Equally, to call Christians 'ignorant' is to call a number of highly respected scientists across the globe ignorant. Which is patently rediculous...

Nope, because they are scientists *despite* being christian.
Religion asks people to accept things which contradict science.

I hate religion

As a Christian, I can certainly empathise. Organised religion is it's own bane. However, unnecessary bullshit based on the actions of a select few Christians is not going to make my opinion of Atheists shoot up...

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Well, noone can force that to you, and noone probably cares.

[Bottle]

The male prostrate does seem to be 'designed' for internal stimulation...

And one's finger is the perfect size for sticking up one's nostril. Correlation implying causation? I think not.

Equally, if one is going to get a bit busy, the male arse is terrible. With no natural lubricant and easily ruptured skin, not to mention natural hygene being compromised if it isn't taken care of sensibly.

I like how he specifies MALE arse. Because, you know, female arses are self-lubricating, and women never poop.

[Upper North Yorkshire]

Political beliefs are basically a set of ethics. Religious beliefs are also a set of ethics, but with a lot of other beliefs as well (belief in God, etc)

Political beliefs usually have a lot of other beliefs mixed in, such as values in regard to racism, homophobia, innocence and guilt, the role of the community, etc.

exactly, the only huge difference is that religious belief is far more abstract

[Bottle]

Political beliefs usually have a lot of other beliefs mixed in, such as values in regard to racism, homophobia, innocence and guilt, the role of the community, etc.

exactly, the only huge difference is that religious belief is far more abstract

I am often told that religious beliefs are somehow "different," but I've never had anybody successfully explain why.

Yes, most religious people believe in things that don't exist. But how is that different from the American libertarians who believe that The Market will solve all ills?

[Central Slavia]

A broken world kind of undermines perfect creator. If we were made in gods image, gods image is a little bit gay

Clearly God is fabulous...

No? Anyway, according to base Christian theology, picked up from an ex-Catholic lay reader and two vicars, the Fall was due to Satan, himself a fallen angel, and also due to disobedience. People didn't obey God, and so they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Voila, they know what evil is, they have, in effect, allowed evil into their lives. Before, where there was merely obedience or disobedience, now we're being a bit more creative.

Um, what?

Firstly... how did they know disobedience was bad/evil? If they didn't ... isn't it God's fault? I mean, if i tell my cat to start my VCR at say, 5 pm to record Dr. Who, and being an animal, she fails to comprehend the command, or its importance and just plays with a bunch of feathers... whose fault is it for me missing the show?

Secondly... how come that was "allowing evil into their lives" ? I thought the evil came with Satan who actually told them to take the fruit. If it wasn't allowed before then, how did he do it?

[Central Slavia]

And one's finger is the perfect size for sticking up one's nostril. Correlation implying causation? I think not.

Equally, if one is going to get a bit busy, the male arse is terrible. With no natural lubricant and easily ruptured skin, not to mention natural hygene being compromised if it isn't taken care of sensibly.

I like how he specifies MALE arse. Because, you know, female arses are self-lubricating, and women never poop.

Um, sorry, but it goes without saying that female anal sex is as sick as male version...

[Bottle]

I like how he specifies MALE arse. Because, you know, female arses are self-lubricating, and women never poop.

Um, sorry, but it goes without saying that female anal sex is as sick as male version...

Eh. The human mouth is filthy, yet we kiss. Our hands are teeming with zillions of little bugs. There are actually some bacteria (like staph epi and some neisserias) that are more commonly found in the mouth or in the vagina than in the anus.

Long story short: if you don't like messy, then don't fuck.

[DaWoad]

Um, sorry, but it goes without saying that female anal sex is as sick as male version...

Eh. The human mouth is filthy, yet we kiss. Our hands are teeming with zillions of little bugs. There are actually some bacteria (like staph epi and some neisserias) that are more commonly found in the mouth or in the vagina than in the anus.

Long story short: if you don't like messy, then don't fuck.

Don't live, in fact. You can't avoid messy, it's bloody impossible.

[Gaiso]

I like how he specifies MALE arse. Because, you know, female arses are self-lubricating, and women never poop.

Um, sorry, but it goes without saying that female anal sex is as sick as male version...

And equally as fun

[Bottle]

Eh. The human mouth is filthy, yet we kiss. Our hands are teeming with zillions of little bugs. There are actually some bacteria (like staph epi and some neisserias) that are more commonly found in the mouth or in the vagina than in the anus.

Long story short: if you don't like messy, then don't fuck.

Don't live, in fact. You can't avoid messy, it's bloody impossible.

True, but I'm more comfortable encouraging celibacy than suicide.

[Dyakovo]

I like how he specifies MALE arse. Because, you know, female arses are self-lubricating, and women never poop.

Um, sorry, but it goes without saying that female anal sex is as sick as male version...

So not at all?

[Hyperlogos]

It seems to me that people are just extremely critical of Christian beliefs. Its not just people disagree and move on they have to comment and mock it and I just want to know why. I've never done that to anyone else's beliefs so why would people do it to me.

There's lots of Christians. Some of you are quite loud about the fact that you people believe that the rest of us are going to hell if we don't believe in your god whose nature was decided at the council of Nicea.

[Bottle]

Um, sorry, but it goes without saying that female anal sex is as sick as male version...

So not at all?

If there's not at least one Christian telling you that your sex is "sick," then you're not doing it right.

[Dyakovo]

So not at all?

If there's not at least one Christian telling you that your sex is "sick," then you're not doing it right.

Considering I'm into Sadomasochism, it is more than just christians who tell me that my sex is sick... But yeah, I agree entirely.

[DaWoad]

Don't live, in fact. You can't avoid messy, it's bloody impossible.

True, but I'm more comfortable encouraging celibacy than suicide.

heh heh heh heh nice.

[SimVillia]

Because it's fashionable to do so.

Is it?

Yes it is.

[Johz]

Au contraire, Christians believe in a loving, omnobenevolent, truthful God. In what places in the Bible does God lie, for goodness sake?

When he swears to himself that for obedience, he'll reproduce Abraham's offspring like the stars in heavens and sand on the seashore?

Adam's offspring can be considered to be all three of the Abrahamic religions. I reckon he's done quite well so far...

The do not agree with homosexual intercourse, mainly because, currently, gay people cannot be 'married'. However, being gay is not a problem. It's just another sign of a broken world

Interesting. So, if gay marriage was legalised the church, your one, anyways, would have no objections?

Ah, but we haven't legalised gay marraige yet, have we. Well no. While a lot of Christians believe that civil partnerships are good and empowering, I suspect many of them see weddings as a more sacred union, specifically between a man and a woman, to create new life. In reality, in heaven there will be no relationships, so this argument would be defunct.

Also... the broken world was made by your almighty god, supposedly. I guess it says a lot about him.

Yes, but so was free will. We chose to become imperfect. A god who prizes free will over perfection, even to the point of destroying his bond with the one part of his creation to whom he has offered a sacred relationship, also says a lot about my God.

and their biggotry and ignorance in unmatched.

I could show you pictures of famous atheists, including Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, who can certainly match a good bit of Christian biggotry, and we've spent millenia institutionalising it. Equally, to call Christians 'ignorant' is to call a number of highly respected scientists across the globe ignorant. Which is patently rediculous...

Nope, because they are scientists *despite* being christian.
Religion asks people to accept things which contradict science.[/quote]
It asks it's believers to believe in a God that is beyond human understanding. This does not contradict science, because science is human understanding. So what if a humble creation myth was wrong, the entire set of pre-Abrahamic stories are prevalent in cultures across the Middle East, suggesting that they are unlikely to have special relevence to the Christian God...

As a Christian, I can certainly empathise. Organised religion is it's own bane. However, unnecessary bullshit based on the actions of a select few Christians is not going to make my opinion of Atheists shoot up...

Well, no-one can force that to you, and no-one probably cares.

No-one has a dash in it. I don't really care if no-one cares, because I care. Tough luck if you don't give a shit, just don't produce stupid comments like the one to which I replied originally...