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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 3:52 pm

Norstal wrote:Please do stop your trolling. It's becoming quite dry.


And another troll once again running away from a battle like the Galga tha guy yesterday.

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Postby Norstal » Fri May 20, 2011 3:53 pm

Freelanderness wrote: Messages in the New Testament automatically take precedence over messages from the Old Testament.

I never seem to quite understand that. "I believe in the Bible, oh, but only half of it."
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Postby Hossaim » Fri May 20, 2011 3:53 pm

Because it's simply ridiculous.
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Postby Orcoa » Fri May 20, 2011 3:54 pm

Seperates wrote:
Orcoa wrote:I believe that the End Times will come when all of earth is surrounded in war and death that has never been seen before in human history, a leader will rise and unite the world but he then becomes the greatest evil ruler to ever be born. He gets rid of all logic and faith, replacing it with his own beliefs and turning the world into darkness. Christ will be reborn and he will lead all those good souls of all creeds to a final battle, both on this plane and on the plane of souls. He will defeat the Anti Christ, free the souls of hell from their prison, and he will bring redemption to all who want it...even the devil himself. The world will become at peace and everything lives happily ever after...and no, This is not the plot to my next action novel....or not :p

Ah Revelations... the musings of a monk on mushrooms.

That or j.r.r tolkien went back in time and rewrote the whole Revelation...and made it fucking metal :lol:
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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 3:54 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:The first four quotes are by Paul from Tarsus' letters. The word of Jesus should always be taken over those. Also Paul of Tarsus is giving advice to women in the church for that historical time period. Nowhere does he say that God says women should be silent etc etc.
The last three quotes are from the Old Testament. Messages in the New Testament automatically take precedence over messages from the Old Testament.

Jesus said he did not come to destroy the Old Testament. :roll:

Don't you love it when their own evidence can be used against them... It's like they aren't even reading the same book.
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Postby Norstal » Fri May 20, 2011 3:54 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Norstal wrote:Please do stop your trolling. It's becoming quite dry.


And another troll once again running away from a battle like the Galga tha guy yesterday.

They always come here during summer. *sigh*
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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 3:55 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Ah Revelations... the musings of a monk on mushrooms.

That or j.r.r tolkien went back in time and rewrote the whole Revelation...and made it fucking metal :lol:

Not even Tolkien was that high. Even the Sarmarillion was not that f***ed up.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 3:55 pm

Seperates wrote:Don't you love it when their own evidence can be used against them...


When that next happens, a mighty OBJECTION! flash animation will present the evidence in their faces.

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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 3:56 pm

Norstal wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
And another troll once again running away from a battle like the Galga tha guy yesterday.

They always come here during summer. *sigh*

*swats* Like horseflies... or homeless people.
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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 3:56 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Seperates wrote:Don't you love it when their own evidence can be used against them...


When that next happens, a mighty OBJECTION! flash animation will present the evidence in their faces.

HOLD IT! I would have a picture... but I'm lazy.
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Postby Orcoa » Fri May 20, 2011 3:58 pm

Seperates wrote:
Orcoa wrote:That or j.r.r tolkien went back in time and rewrote the whole Revelation...and made it fucking metal :lol:

Not even Tolkien was that high. Even the Sarmarillion was not that f***ed up.

Hmmm I should write that screenplay for Revelations...but make it more epic
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 3:58 pm

Seperates wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
When that next happens, a mighty OBJECTION! flash animation will present the evidence in their faces.

HOLD IT! I would have a picture... but I'm lazy.


Here is a gift for you on behalf of Samuraikoku.

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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 4:02 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Not even Tolkien was that high. Even the Sarmarillion was not that f***ed up.

Hmmm I should write that screenplay for Revelations...but make it more epic

Team Little Angels already beat you to it in a game form. That being said... Bayonetta is EPIC.
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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 4:02 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Seperates wrote:HOLD IT! I would have a picture... but I'm lazy.


Here is a gift for you on behalf of Samuraikoku.
I got people coming over to dinner today, so I must leave this battleground for now. I shall return with the unrivaled Knights of Takeda later.

Awesome.
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Postby Orcoa » Fri May 20, 2011 4:05 pm

Seperates wrote:
Orcoa wrote:Hmmm I should write that screenplay for Revelations...but make it more epic

Team Little Angels already beat you to it in a game form. That being said... Bayonetta is EPIC.

Oh god damn it! "Sighs" Fine...No demon dragons, Gian Robots, or Kung Fu fist fight with Jesus and the Anti Christ...
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Postby Seperates » Fri May 20, 2011 4:09 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Team Little Angels already beat you to it in a game form. That being said... Bayonetta is EPIC.

Oh god damn it! "Sighs" Fine...No demon dragons, Gian Robots, or Kung Fu fist fight with Jesus and the Anti Christ...

Well they tweaked it abit and made you the metaphorical Anti-Christ... so I guess theres still a market.
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Postby Freelanderness » Fri May 20, 2011 4:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:The first four quotes are by Paul from Tarsus' letters. The word of Jesus should always be taken over those. Also Paul of Tarsus is giving advice to women in the church for that historical time period. Nowhere does he say that God says women should be silent etc etc.
The last three quotes are from the Old Testament. Messages in the New Testament automatically take precedence over messages from the Old Testament.

Jesus said he did not come to destroy the Old Testament. :roll:

True but he came to clarify them. Since there is direct conflict between Leviticus 20:13 and Leviticus 19:18, Jesus says about the most important commandments:
"The first is, "Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one; you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength." The second is this, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." There is no other commandment greater than these." (NRSV, Mark 12:26-31)
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Postby Sociobiology » Fri May 20, 2011 5:35 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:Then we both did simultaneously it seems, because I edited my own post validly. Still, I'm glad it's been worked out. 8)

sorry I meant I have misquoted someone while shortening a quote before. :lol:
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 5:47 pm

I'm back. Who among you Christian zealots has the courage to challenge a Samurai?
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 20, 2011 5:54 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:I'm back. Who among you Christian zealots has the courage to challenge a Samurai?


*Takes the form of someone who believes in an invisible man that isn't my invisible purple T-rex* I WILL!! I throw at you the discovery of the arc on a mountain!
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 5:56 pm

Condunum wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:I'm back. Who among you Christian zealots has the courage to challenge a Samurai?


*Takes the form of someone who believes in an invisible man that isn't my invisible purple T-rex* I WILL!! I throw at you the discovery of the arc on a mountain!


HOLD IT! How do you know it is the Arc?
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Postby Freelanderness » Fri May 20, 2011 5:59 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
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*Takes the form of someone who believes in an invisible man that isn't my invisible purple T-rex* I WILL!! I throw at you the discovery of the arc on a mountain!


HOLD IT! How do you know it is the Arc?

Actually the ark was debunked... ;)
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 20, 2011 6:00 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Condunum wrote:
*Takes the form of someone who believes in an invisible man that isn't my invisible purple T-rex* I WILL!! I throw at you the discovery of the arc on a mountain!


HOLD IT! How do you know it is the Arc?


*the one I've taken the form of shall not have done research on any positions he takes* I... It's... Well... Carbon dating?
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri May 20, 2011 6:00 pm

Condunum wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
HOLD IT! How do you know it is the Arc?


*the one I've taken the form of shall not have done research on any positions he takes* I... It's... Well... Carbon dating?


HOLD IT! Ever heard of FORGED evidence?
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Postby Sociobiology » Fri May 20, 2011 6:05 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Not even Tolkien was that high. Even the Sarmarillion was not that f***ed up.

Hmmm I should write that screenplay for Revelations...but make it more epic

a friend and I wanted to do the entire thing the whole Christian apocalypse exactly as described in the bible, just because most Christians have no clue about the weird stuff in it.

slowly it has evolved into a two part epic.
part 1. The End
hints and sings (the described signs) UN and US government merge, unknown force (leviathan) sinking ships in the pacific, behemoth spotted on satellite in the congo, sightings of the four horsemen (red, black, white, pale) (war, famine, religion, and death)
judeo-ilamic-christian fundamentalist disapear (rapture)
the gates of heaven and hell appear in a small village in the middle east.
Satan (scarred angel) descends to the UN assembly declares earth now under the dominion of hell
war between humans and hell's forces, demons VS tanks, suicide assualt to get nuke inside the gates to hell (attacks from outside never reach inside)
hell destroyed in massive mushroom cloud.
celebration
Metatron (wheel of eyes) descends to earth, declares that earth is the new Hell.
end movie one

movie two
The beginning
reshow metatrons announcement
metatron demands submission of mankind
(turns out hell was the massive exothermic reaction that powers heaven)
civil wars break out on earth
declaration of war by remaining human forces
War with heaven, angels VS fighter jets

we haven't settled on an ending, humans win but lots of competing ending scenarios.
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