Why Are People So Critical About Christian Beliefs

[Conserative Morality]

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it is necessary [when reading the Gospels--me just now, in case it wasn't clear] to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings from the myths added later by those who preferred to develop and perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person rather than follow Jesus's teachings.

Translation: "I'll believe whatever I want and then claim a nonsense label to attach to it and denounce everyone else as LIARS!"

[Samuraikoku]

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it is necessary to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings.

When last I looked, I said Jesus TAUGHT people about God and Heaven, with the "supernatural" parts aside.

By the way, you're watching another edition of "The Bible explained by a Samurai."

[Draconian Races]

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And How precisely do you do this, what criteria do you use? how is said criteria decided?

Just poking my nose in, but it seems that anything to do with Faith, divinity, etc, would be considered a myth.

So basically, Jesus was actually a hippie.

[Samuraikoku]

Just poking my nose in, but it seems that anything to do with Faith, divinity, etc, would be considered a myth.

So basically, Jesus was actually a hippie.

And then people wonder why he was crucified.

[Draconian Races]

Just poking my nose in, but it seems that anything to do with Faith, divinity, etc, would be considered a myth.

So basically, Jesus was actually a hippie.

And then people wonder why he was crucified.

Well, if he really was just a hippie... whered I stash my giant cross-replica and my time machine.

Seeing as I dont think he was... >_>

[Sociobiology]

There idiots whom are thinking the world will end tommorrow. I say let's al go kick their ass and teach them all a good lesson. The world is neer going to end Cristians if you really think that your all assholes whom are dumb!>:(

I say buy all their belongings at super low cost and if they try to him-haw accuse them of being insincere in their belief and faith.

[Samuraikoku]

There idiots whom are thinking the world will end tommorrow. I say let's al go kick their ass and teach them all a good lesson. The world is neer going to end Cristians if you really think that your all assholes whom are dumb!>:(

I have quite a handy solution to their woes. (*Draws Katana*)

[Sociobiology]

There idiots whom are thinking the world will end tommorrow. I say let's al go kick their ass and teach them all a good lesson. The world is neer going to end Cristians if you really think that your all assholes whom are dumb!>:(

I have quite a handy solution to their woes. (*Draws Katana*)

OK correct your rehashing so you are crediting the person who actually said this and not me.

[Samuraikoku]

You're right, my apologies. It's been corrected now.

[Sociobiology]

You're right, my apologies. It's been corrected now.

Thank you, I have done it myself.

[Samuraikoku]

Then we both did simultaneously it seems, because I edited my own post validly. Still, I'm glad it's been worked out.

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

Rommel wasn't a member of the Nazi party IIRC.

Like everyone else in the Wehrmacht, Rommel was legally incapable of joining a political party.

[Pirate Girl]

I personally think its just like people made fun of jewish people.No one knows why.

[Seperates]

Please, when responding to a post, develop the habit of reading it in its entirety. It might prevent you from missing things like:

Translation: "I'll believe whatever I want and then claim a nonsense label to attach to it and denounce everyone else as LIARS!"

It's very difficult to address someone who is apparently communist and believes that the rapture (not the 5/21/11 one, but the one that Jesus said would come before the last of his disciples was dead) is eminent.

[Seperates]

I personally think its just like people made fun of jewish people.No one knows why.

Well, if you'd have actually read the topic you'd see that we do have legitimite greivances with Christian Beliefs.

[Conserative Morality]

Like everyone else in the Wehrmacht, Rommel was legally incapable of joining a political party.

Correction then: Rommel was never a member of the Nazi party, IIRC, and not a strong supporter of it.

[Norstal]

I personally think its just like people made fun of jewish people.No one knows why.

I forget. Did the Jewish people picket around the funerals of dead veterans with signs such as "God hates fags", or was that the Christians?

[Conserative Morality]

I personally think its just like people made fun of jewish people.No one knows why.

There are some very clear reasons why people are critical of Christianity. Nietzsche in particular made a case that appealed to me quite strongly.

[Samuraikoku]

There are some very clear reasons why people are critical of Christianity. Nietzsche in particular made a case that appealed to me quite strongly.

I mentioned Nietzsche before in this thread, however I can't remember too much, will you refresh that for me?

[Orcoa]

I believe that the End Times will come when all of earth is surrounded in war and death that has never been seen before in human history, a leader will rise and unite the world but he then becomes the greatest evil ruler to ever be born. He gets rid of all logic and faith, replacing it with his own beliefs and turning the world into darkness. Christ will be reborn and he will lead all those good souls of all creeds to a final battle, both on this plane and on the plane of souls. He will defeat the Anti Christ, free the souls of hell from their prison, and he will bring redemption to all who want it...even the devil himself. The world will become at peace and everything lives happily ever after...and no, This is not the plot to my next action novel....or not

[Norstal]

Where's the superstition in Christianity? Every form of superstition I can think of doesn't apply.

Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

What forms of superstition am I forgetting that Christianity allegedly practices?

Please do stop your trolling. It's becoming quite dry.

[Seperates]

I believe that the End Times will come when all of earth is surrounded in war and death that has never been seen before in human history, a leader will rise and unite the world but he then becomes the greatest evil ruler to ever be born. He gets rid of all logic and faith, replacing it with his own beliefs and turning the world into darkness. Christ will be reborn and he will lead all those good souls of all creeds to a final battle, both on this plane and on the plane of souls. He will defeat the Anti Christ, free the souls of hell from their prison, and he will bring redemption to all who want it...even the devil himself. The world will become at peace and everything lives happily ever after...and no, This is not the plot to my next action novel....or not

Ah Revelations... the musings of a monk on mushrooms.

[Freelanderness]

The Bible actually specifically condemns bigotry

Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye. (NRSV, Matthew 7:1-5)

Then Jesus told this story to some who had great self-confidence and scorned everyone else: "Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a dishonest tax collector. The proud Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: 'I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax collector over there! For I never cheat, I don't sin, I don't commit adultery, I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.' But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, 'O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.' I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For the proud will be humbled, but the humble will be honored." (NLT, Luke 18:9-14)

You have heard that the law of Moses says, "Love your neighbor and hate your enemy." But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and on the unjust, too. If you love only those who love you, what good is that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. (NLT, Matthew 5:43-48)

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. (NIV, Romans 13:8-10)

And my personal favourite:
We love because he first loved us. Those who say, "I love God," and hate their brothers or sisters, are liars; for those who do not love a brother or sister whom they have seen, cannot love God whom they have not seen. The commandment we have from him is this: those who love God must love their brothers and sisters also. (NRSV, 1 John 4:19-21)

3But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. (1 Cor. 11:3)

34the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says.
35If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. (1 Cor. 14:34-35)

22Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord.
23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.
24As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. (Eph. 5:22-24)

12I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
13For Adam was formed first, then Eve;
14and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
15Yet woman will be saved through bearing children, if she continues in faith and love and holiness, with modesty. (1 Tim. 2:12-15)



22You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Lev. 18:22)

13If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them. (Lev. 20:13)

17"There shall be no cult prostitute of the daughters of Israel, neither shall there be a cult prostitute of the sons of Israel.
18You shall not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of a dog, into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow; for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God. (Deut. 23:17-18)

And so on.

The first four quotes are by Paul from Tarsus' letters. The word of Jesus should always be taken over those. Also Paul of Tarsus is giving advice to women in the church for that historical time period. Nowhere does he say that God says women should be silent etc etc.
The last three quotes are from the Old Testament. Messages in the New Testament automatically take precedence over messages from the Old Testament.

[Conserative Morality]

I quoted Nietzsche before in this thread, however I can't remember too much, will you refresh that for me?

Christianity was from the beginning, essentially and fundamentally, life's nausea and disgust with life, merely concealed behind, masked by, dressed up as, faith in "another" or "better" life.

[Conserative Morality]

The first four quotes are by Paul from Tarsus' letters. The word of Jesus should always be taken over those. Also Paul of Tarsus is giving advice to women in the church for that historical time period. Nowhere does he say that God says women should be silent etc etc.
The last three quotes are from the Old Testament. Messages in the New Testament automatically take precedence over messages from the Old Testament.

Jesus said he did not come to destroy the Old Testament.