Why Are People So Critical About Christian Beliefs

[Bluth Corporation]

First you said


But then you said


Isn't that somewhat of a paradox?

The principle of religion is to believe in a God.

well no that is the principle of your religion, religion in general is about faith (belief without or counter to evidence)

I have no particular problem with Christianity specifically I oppose all religion as a harmful destructive superstition, that has no redeeming beneficial characteristics that cannot be had from other sources without the negative side effects that religion carries with it. Christianity just happens to be the leading religion here, and therefor the leading harmful superstition.

Where's the superstition in Christianity? Every form of superstition I can think of doesn't apply.

Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

What forms of superstition am I forgetting that Christianity allegedly practices?

[Conserative Morality]

Where's the superstition in Christianity? Every form of superstition I can think of doesn't apply.

Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

What forms of superstition am I forgetting that Christianity allegedly practices?

I'm a Nazi. But Nazism doesn't practice intolerance or racial hatred of any kind. In fact, we Nazis love Jews in particular for their rich and beautiful culture.

[Ceannairceach]

I'm a Nazi. But Nazism doesn't practice intolerance or racial hatred of any kind. In fact, we Nazis love Jews in particular for their rich and beautiful culture.

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

[Wamitoria]

I'm a Nazi. But Nazism doesn't practice intolerance or racial hatred of any kind. In fact, we Nazis love Jews in particular for their rich and beautiful culture.

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

To be honest, if you didn't hold a virulent hatred of all things Jewish, than you were a Nazi in name only^TM.

[Conserative Morality]

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

Rommel wasn't a member of the Nazi party IIRC.

[Ceannairceach]

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

To be honest, if you didn't hold a virulent hatred of all things Jewish, than you were a Nazi in name only^TM.

Other than his inability to hate all things non-German, Rommel loved the Party. Just not Hitler and his Hitlerites.

[Samuraikoku]

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

Rommel wasn't a member of the Nazi party IIRC.

Nope. He was, like most officers, a patriotic German more than a Nazi addict.

[Ceannairceach]

Well, there is Nazi Flower Power, CM. Mustn't forget her. Even Rommel was a rather nice man, if he lived up to the legend.

Rommel wasn't a member of the Nazi party IIRC.

He might have been, I can't recall, but he did agree with its rule over Germany, simply not with the treatment of Jews or the rule of Hitler.

[Sociobiology]

well no that is the principle of your religion, religion in general is about faith (belief without or counter to evidence)

I have no particular problem with Christianity specifically I oppose all religion as a harmful destructive superstition, that has no redeeming beneficial characteristics that cannot be had from other sources without the negative side effects that religion carries with it. Christianity just happens to be the leading religion here, and therefor the leading harmful superstition.

Where's the superstition in Christianity? Every form of superstition I can think of doesn't apply.

Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

What forms of superstition am I forgetting that Christianity allegedly practices?

you have said this before and factual inaccuracy notwithstanding, you have yet to say what your brand of Christianity does do.
oh and faith, in any form is a superstition.

[Conserative Morality]

He might have been, I can't recall, but he did agree with its rule over Germany, simply not with the treatment of Jews or the rule of Hitler.

Did he? I seem to recall his criticism of the Nazi party leading to his ultamatum.

[Samuraikoku]

1. Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
2. Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
3. Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
4. Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
5. Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

1. There's this "God" person they mention.
2. "And the Lord said "Lazarus, come forth!" And Lazarus did arise from his grave."
3. There's also this "Heaven" place above the sky.
4. So where did Jesus go after being crucified?
5. The Lord turned water into wine. Or so the Bible says.

[Bluth Corporation]

Where's the superstition in Christianity? Every form of superstition I can think of doesn't apply.

Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

What forms of superstition am I forgetting that Christianity allegedly practices?

you have said this before and factual inaccuracy notwithstanding,

What factual inaccuracy? A Christian is an adherent of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ; and belief in a god, in miracles, in nature spirits, in a literal afterlife, and supernatural powers is logically incompatible with the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ because such beliefs are logically incompatible with the real world, in which he lived and worked.

you have yet to say what your brand of Christianity does do.

What "brand" of Christianity? It's simply Christianity, full stop. We try to avoid acting like jerks to other people and try to help them out. We don't always succeed, but that's the goal we're always consciously striving towards.

oh and faith, in any form is a superstition.

And Christians do not engage in faith in any form.

[Samuraikoku]

What factual inaccuracy? A Christian is an adherent of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ; and belief in a god, in miracles, in nature spirits, in a literal afterlife, and supernatural powers is logically incompatible with the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ because such beliefs are logically incompatible with the real world, in which he lived and worked.

you have yet to say what your brand of Christianity does do.

What "brand" of Christianity? It's simply Christianity, full stop. We try to avoid acting like jerks to other people and try to help them out. We don't always succeed, but that's the goal we're always consciously striving towards.

oh and faith, in any form is a superstition.

And Christians do not engage in faith in any form.

Isn't Christ always talking about faith?

[Bluth Corporation]

1. Theism? Nope, Christianity is atheist.
2. Miracles? Nope, Christianity explicitly disbelieves in miracles.
3. Nature spirits? Again, no, Christianity has none of those.
4. Belief in a literal afterlife? Once again, Christianity does not hold such a belief.
5. Belief in supernatural powers of one person or certain people? Christianity has no such belief.

1. There's this "God" person they mention.

Not Christians.

2. "And the Lord said "Lazarus, come forth!" And Lazarus did arise from his grave."

Christians believe no such thing ever happened.

3. There's also this "Heaven" place above the sky.

Christians believe no such thing.

4. So where did Jesus go after being crucified?

The same place everybody else goes when they die.

5. The Lord turned water into wine. Or so the Bible says.

He did no such thing. That bit was added by people who failed to recognize the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings (which are true not because of who they came from but because we know them deep down to be true because they're the most logical and rational way to live, which makes them "divine" in the only sense of the word that has any meaning in the real world) and so chose instead to create the myth of Jesus's person, thus founding the cult of Jesus and Jehovah.

[Bluth Corporation]

What factual inaccuracy? A Christian is an adherent of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ; and belief in a god, in miracles, in nature spirits, in a literal afterlife, and supernatural powers is logically incompatible with the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ because such beliefs are logically incompatible with the real world, in which he lived and worked.


What "brand" of Christianity? It's simply Christianity, full stop. We try to avoid acting like jerks to other people and try to help them out. We don't always succeed, but that's the goal we're always consciously striving towards.



And Christians do not engage in faith in any form.

Isn't Christ always talking about faith?

Who is this "Christ" person? I know of the Christ, but of no one by the name "Christ". And the Christ never spoke of faith in any positive manner, at least not when he was speaking literally.

[Samuraikoku]

1. There's this "God" person they mention.

Not Christians.

2. "And the Lord said "Lazarus, come forth!" And Lazarus did arise from his grave."

Christians believe no such thing ever happened.

3. There's also this "Heaven" place above the sky.

Christians believe no such thing.

4. So where did Jesus go after being crucified?

The same place everybody else goes when they die.

5. The Lord turned water into wine. Or so the Bible says.

He did no such thing. That bit was added by people who failed to recognize the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings (which are true not because of who they came from but because we know them deep down to be true because they're the most logical and rational way to live, which makes them "divine" in the only sense of the word that has any meaning in the real world) and so chose instead to create the myth of Jesus's person, thus founding the cult of Jesus and Jehovah.

You do know the New Testament is the Holy Word of the Christians, right?

[Bluth Corporation]

Not Christians.


Christians believe no such thing ever happened.


Christians believe no such thing.


The same place everybody else goes when they die.


He did no such thing. That bit was added by people who failed to recognize the truth of the divinity of Jesus's teachings (which are true not because of who they came from but because we know them deep down to be true because they're the most logical and rational way to live, which makes them "divine" in the only sense of the word that has any meaning in the real world) and so chose instead to create the myth of Jesus's person, thus founding the cult of Jesus and Jehovah.

You do know the New Testament is the Holy Word of the Christians, right?

Christians have no "holy word." Christians follow the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, which can be found in the Gospels; but it is necessary to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings from the myths added later by those who preferred to develop and perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person rather than follow Jesus's teachings. And the Epistles are totally irrelevant to Christianity, because they consist entirely of the original work of such men, who were not Christians but rather the first acolytes of the cult of Jesus and Jehovah.

[Samuraikoku]

Christians have no "holy word." Christians follow the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, which can be found in the Gospels; but it is necessary to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings from the myths added later by those who preferred to develop and perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person rather than follow Jesus's teachings. And the Epistles are totally irrelevant to Christianity, because they consist entirely of the original work of such men, who were not Christians but rather the first acolytes of the cult of Jesus and Jehovah.

All I've said is actually in the Gospels. Jesus Christ actually mentioned God and Heaven and all of that. Go read them if you don't believe me, I think there's 4 guys saying the same thing (John, Paul, George and Ringo... oh wait, sorry. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John).

[Sociobiology]

you have said this before and factual inaccuracy notwithstanding,

What factual inaccuracy? A Christian is an adherent of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ; and belief in a god, in miracles, in nature spirits, in a literal afterlife, and supernatural powers is logically incompatible with the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ because such beliefs are logically incompatible with the real world, in which he lived and worked.

you have yet to say what your brand of Christianity does do.

What "brand" of Christianity? It's simply Christianity, full stop. We try to avoid acting like jerks to other people and try to help them out. We don't always succeed, but that's the goal we're always consciously striving towards.

oh and faith, in any form is a superstition.

And Christians do not engage in faith in any form.

what evidence do you have for this Jesus's teachings. Did he author a book? do you have proof he even existed? Can you give an example of some of these teachings and their justifications?

And I say your brand because a majority of Christians would disagree with your definition, indeed most theologians and biblical scholars would disagree with your definition. Therefor the most you can claim is that it is your individual interpretation, but certainly not the interpretation followed by a majority of those that self identify as Christian.

[Samuraikoku]

And I say your brand because a majority of Christians would disagree with your definition, indeed most theologians and biblical scholars would disagree with your definition.

Roman Catholics, Protestants, Calvinists, Jesuits, etc.

[Bluth Corporation]

Christians have no "holy word." Christians follow the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, which can be found in the Gospels; but it is necessary to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings from the myths added later by those who preferred to develop and perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person rather than follow Jesus's teachings. And the Epistles are totally irrelevant to Christianity, because they consist entirely of the original work of such men, who were not Christians but rather the first acolytes of the cult of Jesus and Jehovah.

All I've said is actually in the Gospels. Jesus Christ actually mentioned God and Heaven and all of that. Go read them if you don't believe me, I think there's 4 guys saying the same thing (John, Paul, George and Ringo... oh wait, sorry. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John).

Please, when responding to a post, develop the habit of reading it in its entirety. It might prevent you from missing things like:

it is necessary [when reading the Gospels--me just now, in case it wasn't clear] to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings from the myths added later by those who preferred to develop and perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person rather than follow Jesus's teachings.

[Draconian Races]

And I say your brand because a majority of Christians would disagree with your definition, indeed most theologians and biblical scholars would disagree with your definition.

Roman Catholics, Protestants, Calvinists, etc.

My kind, the mixed Christ-Judeao.... Anyone whos actually ever read the Bible and believed any of it..

[Vunaxtax]

There idiots whom are thinking the world will end tommorrow. I say let's al go kick their ass and teach them all a good lesson. The world is neer going to end Cristians if you really think that your all assholes whom are dumb!>:(

[Draconian Races]

There idiots whom are thinking the world will end tommorrow. I say let's al go kick their ass and teach them all a good lesson. The world is neer going to end Cristians if you really think that your all assholes whom are dumb!>:(

Actually, it will end, but I doubt it will end tomorrow.

But even science says it will end. When a star goes super nova, when we nuke our planet to hell, when the universe drifts apart... there will eventually be an end point. I just doubt its May 21, 2011

[Sociobiology]

All I've said is actually in the Gospels. Jesus Christ actually mentioned God and Heaven and all of that. Go read them if you don't believe me, I think there's 4 guys saying the same thing (John, Paul, George and Ringo... oh wait, sorry. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John).

Please, when responding to a post, develop the habit of reading it in its entirety. It might prevent you from missing things like:

it is necessary [when reading the Gospels--me just now, in case it wasn't clear] to separate Jesus's actual work and teachings from the myths added later by those who preferred to develop and perpetuate the myth of the divinity of Jesus's person rather than follow Jesus's teachings.

And How precisely do you do this, what criteria do you use? how is said criteria decided?