Why Are People So Critical About Christian Beliefs

[Terra Agora]

There were Christians in Feudal Japan. Lady Gracia and Date Masamune were two of them. Oda Nobunaga had the Jesuits as allies, Hideyoshi banned them and some were killed, although I don't remember by who. So I think the possibility of Hell may still be floundering for us Samuraikoku inhabitants.

Hell doesn't exist. Where they got the idea I'll never know.

IDEA: A way to scare their "morals" on to others.

[Ceannairceach]

Didn't Satan appear before Christ to tempt him? If there's Satan there's Hell, I believe.

I think he did; my memories on the early CE days are hazy. Yes, demons and Lucifer are real, but they reside in heaven, simply Underheaven. A nasty place, I assure you. Hitler lives there, as I recall.

[Ceannairceach]

Hell doesn't exist. Where they got the idea I'll never know.

IDEA: A way to scare their "morals" on to others.

Tsk tsk tsk. Note to self; Next Coming, bring tape recorder.

[Galga tha]

Yeah, or I'm finding my source. I don't know, maybe that's leaving. Roman military code, crucifixion records, the cave is still there, the hill is still there (aka Galgatha),

Then link to it.

oh, and it's in the Bible, which was written in Hebrew, you know, traditional language of basically the whole Mediterranean area.

Go look at Terra Agora's post.

By the way, what happened to open mindedness?

What happened to academic honesty?

Why does Christianity have to be questioned all the time?

Because I can?

Why is agnosticism or atheism the way to exist?

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And it is 'exist' because you don't get an afterlife without God and Jesus. Actually, you do, it's just in the pool of sulfur and brimstone. In Hell. Along with everyone who isn't saved.

I have my own afterlife, thanks very much. And I'm going to be a god when I die.

1. Find them yourself if you're so heavyset against it.
2. Still factually correct.
3. Honesty is the truth, which has been the only thing to come across my mouth.
4. I can question things too. What is your belief based on?
5. What?
6. How do you know you'll become a 'god'?

[Freelanderness]

EDIT: Sorry, I'll relabel myself. I follow Freelanderism. There, try to tell me that I am not that.

And I'll define Freelanderism as Agnosticism and refer you to my earlier post stating that proving the existence of God cannot be scientific:

So, making out conclusions from something you don't know isn't exactly science. Right?

It skips so many steps, its not even funny anymore.

Source for Freelanderism being Agnosticism?

Even if my arguments are invalid, you still have not produced any besides tearing my posts apart.

So, why is it acceptable to be an asshat to Christians?

And Demen, bullshit is bullshit. Christianity is hated, Atheism is hated, Agnosticism is hated, minorities are hated, majorities are hated.
So because people hate on gay people and minorities MORE, it's perfectly okay to hate on other people?

[Ceannairceach]

6. How do you know you'll become a 'god'?

Because I, Jesus M. Christ, said he would be. Or, at least a saint or angel.

[Freelanderness]

I didn't say you were mocking Christians with that comment.

Also wow, for people who have such high moral standards on issues like gay rights and racial rights... you sure have low standards on religious freedoms.

It's all freedom of the people and such until it's unpopular :/

Ridiculing people because of their religion is not a valid reason. Take it or leave it. I have to make supper.

Where did I want to suppress religious freedoms? Where did I say I have morals? Christians have as much freedom pushing their logic onto me. Just don't expect me to stand idly by without my machine gun of intense logic +10.

xD Logic is not what I'm arguing against. Theological debate is a good thing. (adds disclaimer: imo)

[Samuraikoku]

I think he did; my memories on the early CE days are hazy. Yes, demons and Lucifer are real, but they reside in heaven, simply Underheaven. A nasty place, I assure you. Hitler lives there, as I recall.

But surely Dante must have got the idea of Hell from somewhere before writing the Divine Comedy.

[New Embossia]

Who's that dumbass that thinks that the worlds gonna end on Saturday?

[Norstal]

1. Find them yourself if you're so heavyset against it.

I'm not the one claiming it.

"Hey, I heard a dog got stuck in a burning apartment!"
"Really? Where'd you get that from?"
"Pfft, find it yourself if you care so much about it."
"..."

See how idiotic that argument is?

2. Still factually correct.

No it's not.

3. Honesty is the truth, which has been the only thing to come across my mouth.

You spout lies and deceit without a source.

4. I can question things too. What is your belief based on?

My lack of knowledge of how the universe works. Yeah, sorry I'm not one of those godlike Christians who knows every fucking thing there ever existed because of God. Nope.

5. What?

Why can't I live as an atheist? I'm happier this way.

6. How do you know you'll become a 'god'?

How do you know you'll go to heaven?

[Galga tha]

1. Find them yourself if you're so heavyset against it.
2. Still factually correct.
3. Honesty is the truth, which has been the only thing to come across my mouth.
4. I can question things too. What is your belief based on?
5. What?
6. How do you know you'll become a 'god'?

1. He who presents an argument must back it up himself.
2. The Bible is biased, not written by Jesus himself, and therefore not a valuable historical source.
3. Trying to scare people with the thought from Hell is honesty?
4. Nothing. I am an atheist. Or better, Bushido.
5. Because it brings no contribution to this actual world, and it fails to set any example as intended.
6. I'm a Samurai. What lies in the afterlife I will find out when I die.

To Rostal. Not anyone else really.

[Ceannairceach]

Who's that dumbass that thinks that the worlds gonna end on Saturday?

Some preacher. I, Jesus, was sent to ensure you all that no, its not on May. Nor 2012, for that matter.

[Norstal]

1. He who presents an argument must back it up himself.
2. The Bible is biased, not written by Jesus himself, and therefore not a valuable historical source.
3. Trying to scare people with the thought from Hell is honesty?
4. Nothing. I am an atheist. Or better, Bushido.
5. Because it brings no contribution to this actual world, and it fails to set any example as intended.
6. I'm a Samurai. What lies in the afterlife I will find out when I die.

To Rostal. Not anyone else really.

Anyone is free to argue with anyone. You are not god. Do not attempt to restrict his freedoms.

[Samuraikoku]

To Rostal. Not anyone else really.

Anyone is free to argue with anyone. You are not god. Do not attempt to restrict his freedoms.

I am humbly grateful for your support. (*respectful bow*)

[Galga tha]

Anyone is free to argue with anyone. You are not god. Do not attempt to restrict his freedoms.

I am humbly grateful for your support. (*respectful bow*)

I am free to ignore other people.

[Ceannairceach]

I am humbly grateful for your support. (*respectful bow*)

I am free to ignore other people.

Would you ignore your Lord?

[Samuraikoku]

I am humbly grateful for your support. (*respectful bow*)

I am free to ignore other people.

Your ignoring of me means you are unable to answer to my questions.

[Norstal]

I am free to ignore other people.

Your ignoring of me means you cannot answer to my questions.

Banzai charge tiem?

Naw, we don't need the samurai. Even an Ashigaru can finish the job. *nods*

[Samuraikoku]

Your ignoring of me means you cannot answer to my questions.

Banzai charge tiem?

Naw, we don't need the samurai. Even an Ashigaru can finish the job. *nods*

I raise the stake: How about a Yumi archer?

Anyway, this is no time for a Banzai charge. It would be similar to what he is doing.

[Norstal]

Banzai charge tiem?

Naw, we don't need the samurai. Even an Ashigaru can finish the job. *nods*

I raise the stake: How about a Yumi archer?

Anyway, this is no time for a Banzai charge. It would be similar to what he is doing.

Now that's just mean.

[Galga tha]

1. Find them yourself if you're so heavyset against it.

I'm not the one claiming it.

"Hey, I heard a dog got stuck in a burning apartment!"
"Really? Where'd you get that from?"
"Pfft, find it yourself if you care so much about it."
"..."

See how idiotic that argument is?

2. Still factually correct.

No it's not.

3. Honesty is the truth, which has been the only thing to come across my mouth.

You spout lies and deceit without a source.

4. I can question things too. What is your belief based on?

My lack of knowledge of how the universe works. Yeah, sorry I'm not one of those godlike Christians who knows every fucking thing there ever existed because of God. Nope.

5. What?

Why can't I live as an atheist? I'm happier this way.

6. How do you know you'll become a 'god'?

How do you know you'll go to heaven?

1. It's an opportunity to prove me wrong. Also, you created a situation that doesn't involve the subject at hand.
2. How is it not?
3. What was our source for atheism again? Is there a book of some kind?
4. I didn't say I knew everything. Heaven was created, the world was created, hell was created. If not, explain how everything came to be.
5. Then live that way without criticizing other religions. I'm happy as a Christian.
6. I'm saved by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross for all sins. Ever.

[Samuraikoku]

I raise the stake: How about a Yumi archer?

Anyway, this is no time for a Banzai charge. It would be similar to what he is doing.

Now that's just mean.

My apologies then.

1. It's an opportunity to prove me wrong. Also, you created a situation that doesn't involve the subject at hand.
2. How is it not?
3. What was our source for atheism again? Is there a book of some kind?
4. I didn't say I knew everything. Heaven was created, the world was created, hell was created. If not, explain how everything came to be.
5. Then live that way without criticizing other religions. I'm happy as a Christian.
6. I'm saved by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross for all sins. Ever.

1. You presented the argument, you must back your own words up. Also, you're running away from the argument here.
2. Again: The Bible is biased, written not by Jesus himself, and thus not a valuable historical source.
3. Does there HAVE to be a book to preach NON-belief in something? What kind of argument is that?
4. There are many theories out there, which sound more reasonable and acceptable to people not content with Creationism... and actually intend to show evidence (Darwin's evolution theory, correct or not, tries to prove itself, unlike Christianism which only demands blind faith).
5. Again: Christianism is criticized because it has proven its incapability to prove anything in these modern times.
6. What if you are a sinner yourself?

[Ceannairceach]

1. It's an opportunity to prove me wrong. Also, you created a situation that doesn't involve the subject at hand.
2. How is it not?
3. What was our source for atheism again? Is there a book of some kind?
4. I didn't say I knew everything. Heaven was created, the world was created, hell was created. If not, explain how everything came to be.
5. Then live that way without criticizing other religions. I'm happy as a Christian.
6. I'm saved by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross for all sins. Ever.

OK everyone, story time! *Ahem*
Once upon a time, I said to god, "Dad, should we made somewhere for sinners to go?" He slapped me and said, "No. All sinners are our children, and shall inherit their place next to us, as equal to you and I as a cat is to a cat."

Story time over. Stop using my teachings to justify saying odd things.

[Norstal]

1. It's an opportunity to prove me wrong. Also, you created a situation that doesn't involve the subject at hand.

I just proved you wrong by saying "source."

Yes it does. You're the one that presented the argument, prove it. Until then, it's false. For further arguments, see below.

2. How is it not?

Because it's impossible it wrong. Therefore, it is automatically false.

Tell me, does Harry Potter exist? This book called Harry Potter series says he exists. Therefore, he must exist. You can't prove me wrong, because there is no source saying he doesn't exist!

3. What was our source for atheism again? Is there a book of some kind?

We need a book to belief in something? Sorry mate, but I'm not a sheep.

4. I didn't say I knew everything. Heaven was created, the world was created, hell was created. If not, explain how everything came to be.

We don't know yet. That's the fucking reason I can't believe in the shit you're defecating all over this thread. I don't know if these things you say happened.

5. Then live that way without criticizing other religions. I'm happy as a Christian.

Sure, when you fuck off my government and pay your due taxes.

6. I'm saved by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross for all sins. Ever.

And I am god by the virtue of the fact that I can make myself a god after my death. Donald Knuth granted me these powers. It's all in his book, the Art of Computer Programming.

[Samuraikoku]

OK everyone, story time! *Ahem*
Once upon a time, I said to god, "Dad, should we made somewhere for sinners to go?" He slapped me and said, "No. All sinners are our children, and shall inherit their place next to us, as equal to you and I as a cat is to a cat."

Story time over. Stop using my teachings to justify saying odd things.

What I said before, has been demonstrated now: No matter how much evidence you throw at faith, you won't beat it.

Norstal: Perhaps a Tanegashima matchlock rifle would come in handy...