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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 6:50 pm

Galga tha wrote:
Norstal wrote:Clearly you're not, since you take offense when I make fun of something that doesn't exist.


Agnostic beliefs doesn't mean he doesn't think He exists. It means he doesn't believe He can be, but He might and He just doesn't know everything.

wiki wrote:Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.


So, making out conclusions from something you don't know isn't exactly science. Right?
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Postby Demen » Thu May 19, 2011 6:50 pm

Galga tha wrote:
Norstal wrote:Clearly you're not, since you take offense when I make fun of something that doesn't exist.


Agnostic beliefs doesn't mean he doesn't think He exists. It means he doesn't believe He can be, but He might and He just doesn't know everything.

So bacically the Agnostic religion is High School all over again?


Christ sakes.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 6:51 pm

Demen wrote:
Galga tha wrote:
Agnostic beliefs doesn't mean he doesn't think He exists. It means he doesn't believe He can be, but He might and He just doesn't know everything.

So bacically the Agnostic religion is High School all over again?


Christ sakes.

You rang?

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Postby Demen » Thu May 19, 2011 6:52 pm

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Demen wrote:So bacically the Agnostic religion is High School all over again?


Christ sakes.

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Yes, hello. Do you sell Pizza?

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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 6:52 pm

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Norstal wrote:That was an if. Since I never said such things, you don't suck. 8)

Thats good. :hug: Now, which ethnic Quarter do you want to live in? Latin, French, English...? Heaven has a lot, you know.

Hmmm, I want the Japanese quarter! Oh wait, Asians don't have their own quarter. Hmmm, I guess I'll pick the German one.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 6:53 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:You rang?

Yes, hello. Do you sell Pizza?

Yes, but no shellfish or pork-based products. You know the rules.

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Postby Sanguinthium » Thu May 19, 2011 6:53 pm

Demen wrote:
Galga tha wrote:
Agnostic beliefs doesn't mean he doesn't think He exists. It means he doesn't believe He can be, but He might and He just doesn't know everything.

So bacically the Agnostic religion is High School all over again?


Christ sakes.



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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 6:54 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:Thats good. :hug: Now, which ethnic Quarter do you want to live in? Latin, French, English...? Heaven has a lot, you know.

Hmmm, I want the Japanese quarter! Oh wait, Asians don't have their own quarter. Hmmm, I guess I'll pick the German one.

What? Who said? The Buddhists are probably one of my father's best creations. He loves the karma idea. Of course they get their own quarter.

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Postby Sanguinthium » Thu May 19, 2011 6:55 pm

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its very simple. they get on the Radio, television commercials, etc etc. they then preach at us from the bible at our sports events, and everywhere you go, someone is trying to get you to stop drinking bcuz its a sin, even though Jesus turned water into wine. they make that much sense.

Why are you persecuting Christians so much? I mean, really, you can turn off the radio and the TV, and you don't have to go sporting events if the holy invocations before those exhibitions of God-given athletic ability offend you. As for Jesus turning water into wine, he only did it because his mother asked him. It is not said that he himself drank of it.

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No, he just told his deciples to drink it at the last supper... silly baptist.. theres a REASON its a sacrament..

And nothing pisses me off more than christians pretending to be a persecuted MINORITY for christs sake...

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Postby Freelanderness » Thu May 19, 2011 6:56 pm

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Freelanderness wrote:I take offense when people mock other people for what they believe.

Criticism /=/ Mockery

No? It's mockery if I say, Jesus Christ sucks. It's not mockery if I'm comparing God's existence to Harry Potter's existence. Which is null.

I didn't say you were mocking Christians with that comment.

Also wow, for people who have such high moral standards on issues like gay rights and racial rights... you sure have low standards on religious freedoms.

It's all freedom of the people and such until it's unpopular :/

Ridiculing people because of their religion is not a valid reason. Take it or leave it. I have to make supper.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu May 19, 2011 6:58 pm

Criticism comes from situations, established worldwide, that Christianity condemns (Homosexuality, birth control) or refuses to accept. In these modern times it's inconceivable that birth control (anticonceptive pills, condom usage) can be labeled as something bad, given the improvements it has had on health and human life. Christianity lives in a world of its own, and it clearly serves no use for morality anymore given the sex scandals involving priests. So it doesn't come as a surprise for me.

(Of course everyone knows I'm an atheist from this explanation). :p
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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 6:59 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Norstal wrote:No? It's mockery if I say, Jesus Christ sucks. It's not mockery if I'm comparing God's existence to Harry Potter's existence. Which is null.

I didn't say you were mocking Christians with that comment.

Also wow, for people who have such high moral standards on issues like gay rights and racial rights... you sure have low standards on religious freedoms.

It's all freedom of the people and such until it's unpopular :/

Ridiculing people because of their religion is not a valid reason. Take it or leave it. I have to make supper.

Where did I want to suppress religious freedoms? Where did I say I have morals? Christians have as much freedom pushing their logic onto me. Just don't expect me to stand idly by without my machine gun of intense logic +10.
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Postby Galga tha » Thu May 19, 2011 6:59 pm

Also, isn't your logic and reasoning make you have an open mind to ALL subjects, including religious views? And, even still, Jesus Christ existed. Proven scientific fact. He was about 33 when He died, He was beaten, flogged, and crucified. After He was dead on the cross, a spear was driven through His heart. When He was taken down, He was buried in a cave, which was sealed off by a giant rock, movable only by a group (10-20) of Roman soldiers. His body lay in the cave for three days, whic was guarded by that same group of gaurds. Side note, if a Roman soldier fell asleep on duty, the penalty was death, so no one could have gotten by. On that third day, a ROMAN SOLDIER told Mary Magdelene that Jesus Christ had risen. Why would a Roman soldier lie about the ressurection of a person that HE HELPED KILL? Afterwards, that very day, He spoke to over 500 people, about 450 at the same time, and some even touched and saw the holes in His hands and feet. He was living after his three days in the ground. FIND A FLAW IN THAT LOGIC.

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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 6:59 pm

Galga tha wrote:Also, isn't your logic and reasoning make you have an open mind to ALL subjects, including religious views? And, even still, Jesus Christ existed. Proven scientific fact. He was about 33 when He died, He was beaten, flogged, and crucified. After He was dead on the cross, a spear was driven through His heart. When He was taken down, He was buried in a cave, which was sealed off by a giant rock, movable only by a group (10-20) of Roman soldiers. His body lay in the cave for three days, whic was guarded by that same group of gaurds. Side note, if a Roman soldier fell asleep on duty, the penalty was death, so no one could have gotten by. On that third day, a ROMAN SOLDIER told Mary Magdelene that Jesus Christ had risen. Why would a Roman soldier lie about the ressurection of a person that HE HELPED KILL? Afterwards, that very day, He spoke to over 500 people, about 450 at the same time, and some even touched and saw the holes in His hands and feet. He was living after his three days in the ground. FIND A FLAW IN THAT LOGIC.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 7:00 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:Criticism comes from situations, established worldwide, that Christianity condemns (Homosexuality, birth control) or refuses to accept. In these modern times it's inconceivable that birth control (anticonceptive pills, condom usage) can be labeled as something bad, given the improvements it has had on health and human life. Christianity lives in a world of its own, and it clearly serves no use for morality anymore given the sex scandals involving priests. So it doesn't come as a surprise for me.

(Of course everyone knows I'm an atheist from this explanation). :p

Heh, you'd think they'd want to be more like me and support all that shite. But no, they have to listen to Darth Pope.

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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 7:03 pm

Freelanderness wrote:EDIT: Sorry, I'll relabel myself. I follow Freelanderism. There, try to tell me that I am not that.

And I'll define Freelanderism as Agnosticism and refer you to my earlier post stating that proving the existence of God cannot be scientific:

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wiki wrote:Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.


So, making out conclusions from something you don't know isn't exactly science. Right?

It skips so many steps, its not even funny anymore.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu May 19, 2011 7:04 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:Heh, you'd think they'd want to be more like me and support all that shite. But no, they have to listen to Darth Pope.


It's faith. You can't beat faith no matter how hard you try, or evidence you throw at it. It has a purpose for believers, otherwise they wouldn't, well, believe.

Also, LOL at Darth Pope. He DOES look like Palpatine. :lol:
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Thu May 19, 2011 7:04 pm

Sanguinthium wrote:
Demen wrote:So bacically the Agnostic religion is High School all over again?


Christ sakes.



Agnosticism is Atheism without balls; its essentially the fancy way of saying WTF? IDK! I quit! I TAKE NO SIDES!


Are you trolling? Atheism isn't that intellectual of a position, it's almost as much of an assertion as theism is. Agnosticism is not making any assertions.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 7:07 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:Heh, you'd think they'd want to be more like me and support all that shite. But no, they have to listen to Darth Pope.


It's faith. You can't beat faith no matter how hard you try, or evidence you throw at it. It has a purpose for believers, otherwise they wouldn't, well, believe.

Also, LOL at Darth Pope. He DOES look like Palpatine. :lol:

But they're supposed to have faith in me! I want them to be like me! Stupid Paul, corrupting my image...

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Postby Demen » Thu May 19, 2011 7:08 pm

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Norstal wrote:No? It's mockery if I say, Jesus Christ sucks. It's not mockery if I'm comparing God's existence to Harry Potter's existence. Which is null.

I didn't say you were mocking Christians with that comment.

Also wow, for people who have such high moral standards on issues like gay rights and racial rights... you sure have low standards on religious freedoms.

It's all freedom of the people and such until it's unpopular :/

Ridiculing people because of their religion is not a valid reason. Take it or leave it. I have to make supper.

EDIT: Sorry, I'll relabel myself. I follow Freelanderism. There, try to tell me that I am not that.

Are you kidding me?


Gays and minorities have had much more problems than Christians and Catholics.



Don't throw the "Christianity is hated" act. Because it's bullshit, and you will have to try harder to bullshit the bullshitter.

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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 7:09 pm

Damn, I made two Christians leave with just the word "source" and a rehash of my other post. That must mean...I am God!

Jesus Christ, let's go back to the airport. We're going to fly like a G6.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 7:10 pm

Norstal wrote:Damn, I made two Christians leave with just the word "source" and a rehash of my other post. That must mean...I am God!

Jesus Christ, let's go back to the airport. We're going to fly like a G6.

Mmkay dad. Can we fly first class this time? We may be Jewish, but C'mon, we're divine and all...

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu May 19, 2011 7:12 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
It's faith. You can't beat faith no matter how hard you try, or evidence you throw at it. It has a purpose for believers, otherwise they wouldn't, well, believe.

Also, LOL at Darth Pope. He DOES look like Palpatine. :lol:

But they're supposed to have faith in me! I want them to be like me! Stupid Paul, corrupting my image...


Clearly proof that the Bible was written by men, and men interpret as they see fit. And the people who follow the Pope just follow HIS interpretation of the Bible.

Nothing better than Christianity explained by a Samurai. LOL
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Postby Norstal » Thu May 19, 2011 7:14 pm

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Norstal wrote:Damn, I made two Christians leave with just the word "source" and a rehash of my other post. That must mean...I am God!

Jesus Christ, let's go back to the airport. We're going to fly like a G6.

Mmkay dad. Can we fly first class this time? We may be Jewish, but C'mon, we're divine and all...

GAHHH fine. But this is going straight from YOUR retirement fund.
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu May 19, 2011 7:14 pm

Norstal wrote:
Galga tha wrote:Also, isn't your logic and reasoning make you have an open mind to ALL subjects, including religious views? And, even still, Jesus Christ existed. Proven scientific fact. He was about 33 when He died, He was beaten, flogged, and crucified. After He was dead on the cross, a spear was driven through His heart. When He was taken down, He was buried in a cave, which was sealed off by a giant rock, movable only by a group (10-20) of Roman soldiers. His body lay in the cave for three days, whic was guarded by that same group of gaurds. Side note, if a Roman soldier fell asleep on duty, the penalty was death, so no one could have gotten by. On that third day, a ROMAN SOLDIER told Mary Magdelene that Jesus Christ had risen. Why would a Roman soldier lie about the ressurection of a person that HE HELPED KILL? Afterwards, that very day, He spoke to over 500 people, about 450 at the same time, and some even touched and saw the holes in His hands and feet. He was living after his three days in the ground. FIND A FLAW IN THAT LOGIC.

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