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by Pinewald » Mon May 30, 2011 3:31 am
by Grave_n_idle » Mon May 30, 2011 4:36 am
Draconian Races wrote:-St George wrote:Because, of course, the central fucking message of the New Testament is irrelevant when confronted with Leviticus, a book of guidelines for Jewish priests, or out of context quotes from Paul.
Except it isnt the central message. Forgiveness is.
Oh, and yeah, forgiveness isnt allowance surprise surprise.
If ya noticed, Christ forgave people their sins... and told them not to sin anymore. That wasnt "OK you're going to heaven, so sin away."
Just because we are loving, doesnt mean we should approve or tolerate evil.
by Grave_n_idle » Mon May 30, 2011 4:38 am
Azarea wrote::palm: You people really hate christians..
by Grave_n_idle » Mon May 30, 2011 4:41 am
by Samuraikoku » Mon May 30, 2011 4:41 am
Draconian Races wrote:Just because we are loving, doesnt mean we should approve or tolerate evil.
by Risen Britannia » Mon May 30, 2011 4:58 am
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by -St George » Mon May 30, 2011 5:41 am
Draconian Races wrote:-St George wrote:Because, of course, the central fucking message of the New Testament is irrelevant when confronted with Leviticus, a book of guidelines for Jewish priests, or out of context quotes from Paul.
Except it isnt the central message. Forgiveness is.
Oh, and yeah, forgiveness isnt allowance surprise surprise.
If ya noticed, Christ forgave people their sins... and told them not to sin anymore. That wasnt "OK you're going to heaven, so sin away."
Just because we are loving, doesnt mean we should approve or tolerate evil.
by Dyakovo » Mon May 30, 2011 6:09 am
-St George wrote:Draconian Races wrote:
Except it isnt the central message. Forgiveness is.
Oh, and yeah, forgiveness isnt allowance surprise surprise.
If ya noticed, Christ forgave people their sins... and told them not to sin anymore. That wasnt "OK you're going to heaven, so sin away."
Just because we are loving, doesnt mean we should approve or tolerate evil.
The Bible does not condemn homosexuality.
by Alowwvia » Mon May 30, 2011 7:52 am
Draconian Races wrote:-St George wrote:Because, of course, the central fucking message of the New Testament is irrelevant when confronted with Leviticus, a book of guidelines for Jewish priests, or out of context quotes from Paul.
Except it isnt the central message. Forgiveness is.
Oh, and yeah, forgiveness isnt allowance surprise surprise.
If ya noticed, Christ forgave people their sins... and told them not to sin anymore. That wasnt "OK you're going to heaven, so sin away."
Just because we are loving, doesnt mean we should approve or tolerate evil.
by Sociobiology » Mon May 30, 2011 8:39 am
-St George wrote:Draconian Races wrote:
Actually, my moral code says "No compromise." >_>
And that's why people like you are the biggest problem with Christianity. People all too willing to misinterpret and even rewrite the Bible in order to justify bigotry. People who ignore the words of Jesus in Mathew 5 when tells us to love everyone as our neighbour. People who turn up at the funerals of gays and other so-called 'decadents' and act disgustingly and disgracefully. People who use the Bible as a weapon of bigotry and reinforce the sterotype of Christians being hateful apologists for genocide, rape, murder and any number of other crimes.
Your 'moral code' is not Christian in the slightest, and should be challenged by Christians and non-Christians alike.
by Samuraikoku » Mon May 30, 2011 9:12 am
by -St George » Mon May 30, 2011 12:57 pm
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by Norstal » Mon May 30, 2011 2:34 pm
Pinewald wrote:This is a secretly orchestrated plan to gradually rot out the real US and to have the bad guys from various enemy sides to control our real US like a puppet, this is all a plan to attrition away our nation like a cancer on a declining cognizant eldery person.
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by Pinewald » Tue May 31, 2011 3:24 am
Grave_n_idle wrote:Azarea wrote::palm: You people really hate christians..
Not at all. I mean, maybe I don't speak for all Atheists - and I wouldn't want to try - but I'm a pro-religion Atheist. I think religion is a wonderful thing - even Christianity - just... not for me. And even I would 'believe' if I could.
by Pinewald » Tue May 31, 2011 3:25 am
by Samuraikoku » Tue May 31, 2011 4:15 am
Norstal wrote:Yes! I bet the Soviets invented a time machine and invented Christianity to ruin the U.S. Thus now, in our timeline, we have a religion that is destroying humanity little by little.
by Xenohumanity » Tue May 31, 2011 6:45 am
JTorvik wrote:The roman empire documented it, look it up if you want to. And again, who would die for something they know is a lie, I certainly wouldn't.
by Xenohumanity » Tue May 31, 2011 6:47 am
JTorvik wrote:Oh really, so you believe that once upon a time there was nothing and then it exploded into mostly hydrogen which somehow turned into dust which then made planets and lightning zapped the water turning it into a mixture of 2 percent amino acids and 98 percent life inhibiting toxins and that mixture of nonliving particles somehow became living and then evolved into humans.
by Xenohumanity » Tue May 31, 2011 6:51 am
Draconian Races wrote:Yep, He is. Though it wasnt cuz itd make them intelligent, it was so they wouldnt know what they shouldnt. And He saw the serpent coming, but He didnt intervene because it would stop free will.Alixanderia wrote:And you believe that somehow a sentient being exists from nothing and created a planet to sustain life forms, and then made a man out of dirt and woman out of his rib? Then he gave them free will, but told them not to eat a piece of fruit because it would make them intelligent? And then, even though he was all-seeing, he ignored the fact that he knew an angel would turn into a snake with legs and talk the rib-woman into eating the fruit, then acted surprised and punished them? And then he pulled the legs off the snake and kicks the people out of a garden and later flooded the world because he didn't like how people were living, even though he told them they could do whatever? And then he impregnated a virgin with himself so he could be born as himself as a human, talk to himself, refer to himself as father, and then allow himself to be killed? And then he caused himself to become a cosmic Jewish zombie who ascended into heaven, but heaven isn't a physical place? And then he "changed" even though he knew he was going to change and think differently? And also, he allowed that former-angel/snake to plant evidence to try to make people not believe in him, and then when people don't believe him, or commits any of his thousands of ridiculous sins in a finite time, he punishes you for eternity and considers it a fair trade? And also even though he will fuck you up for not believing in him, he refuses to give proof of himself, just so he can LOL because you aren't gullible? And then, you consider this guy to be a good dude?
Sounds legit.
According to the Dake's commentary on the Bible, heaven is a literal planet too...
Theres more. But yeap, He is a legit, good guy.
by Xenohumanity » Tue May 31, 2011 6:54 am
Pinewald wrote:This is a secretly orchestrated plan to gradually rot out the real US and to have the bad guys from various enemy sides to control our real US like a puppet, this is all a plan to attrition away our nation like a cancer on a declining cognizant eldery person.
by Xenohumanity » Tue May 31, 2011 7:00 am
France Deux wrote:Now, she's a Catholic and when she was divorced she went someday to the Church, the priest refused to give her the Communion just because she was a "sinning" woman.
by -St George » Tue May 31, 2011 12:55 pm
They state that a word-for-word translation of this verse from the original Hebrew is:
"And a man who will lie down with a male in beds of a woman, both of them have made an abomination; dying they will die. Their blood is on them."
In modern English this could be translated as:
"If two men engage in homosexual sex while on a woman's bed, both have committed an abomination. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
This does not generally forbid homosexual behavior between two men. It only limits where the act can be done.
As I have said before, this story refers to a single group of Christians who left the faith (and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. - Verse 23) and proceeded to engage in orgies of both the homosexual and heterosexual kind ( Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. - Verse 24.) Several times Romans 1:18-32 starts a verse with 'God gave them over', i.e. God prompted them to do such acts. Why would God prompt them to do acts that he apparently condemns?God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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