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Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:06 pm
by Buffett and Colbert
Smunkeeville wrote:
JarVik wrote: How come?

Her cum.

I assume.


Ooh looks like our resident mom is getting dirty... :twisted:

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:09 pm
by Saint Clair Island
Kusatsu wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:
Kusatsu wrote:Mhm, thought so. 8)

Wasn't talking dictionary decisions. That's just the image I get when people mention being asexual. "Oh, you are? Do you release spores into the atmosphere, or just bud children off after getting fertilized by bees?"


Well fine, give me the word you would use for me and I'll start referring to myself as that instead. :p

I'm rather fond of "weirdo" or "freak", myself.

If you insist, though, "nonsexual" makes more sense... since asexuality is as much a sexual orientation as atheism is a religion.

Maurepas wrote:I would say that it would require both Sexuality and Nonsexuality considering that both are a part of Human Nature...


I'm no expert on human nature, oftentimes I pretend no such thing exists because I lack some of the essential components of it (ie: sexual desire). But meh, I don't need to fight to be recognized as a new species... yet.

There's no such thing as human nature. There's just individual nature. One can predict how large groups of people behave, but extrapolating conclusions on how "humans in general" behave from those predictions is fallacious.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:12 pm
by Maurepas
Saint Clair Island wrote:There's no such thing as human nature. There's just individual nature. One can predict how large groups of people behave, but extrapolating conclusions on how "humans in general" behave from those predictions is fallacious.

I would say there is a such thing as human nature, which I would define as things humans do...

the Individual Nature would be part of that, now using it to make predictions is fallacious, but that doesnt mean the concept itself does not exist...

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:14 pm
by Kusatsu
Saint Clair Island wrote:I'm rather fond of "weirdo" or "freak", myself.

If you insist, though, "nonsexual" makes more sense... since asexuality is as much a sexual orientation as atheism is a religion.

Nonsexual, makes sense. I think I'll go with that now, more people will get it right off the bat. Thanks. :)


Saint Clair Island wrote:There's no such thing as human nature. There's just individual nature. One can predict how large groups of people behave, but extrapolating conclusions on how "humans in general" behave from those predictions is fallacious.

Your logic is entirely correct and infallible. You have basically summed up what I have always wanted to say to anybody who mentions human nature, I agree completely. :bow:

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:14 pm
by La Habana
Hows about a step beyond anal sex: Felching.

Or a step beyond even that: Snowballing.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:14 pm
by JarVik
Kusatsu wrote:
JarVik wrote:
Kusatsu wrote:
The way I see it, sex is just a waste of time. Other than offspring, I get absolutely nothing out of it. Plus its a bit discomforting of an experience too.


Sex is one of the best wastes of time, and other than offspring your supposed to get off on it.

Discomforting? Seriously? are you sure your doing it right?

Do get me wrong, Its not like I'm saying you should go full turbo slut or manwhore but it is a pleasureable activity when your ready for it.


Well of course it is a waste of time, hell, using the Nation States forums right now is a waste of time. However, being that these forums are entertaining to me, I don't see it as a waste of time. I get something out of it, and that is entertainment.

I simply don't understand why people like sex, and gave up on figuring it out ages ago.


Hmn, Fair enough. There are "popular" things I don't care for either so I'll just wish you happiness.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:16 pm
by Galloism
La Habana wrote:Hows about a step beyond anal sex: Felching.


"Armageddon!"

Please, somebody get the reference.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:16 pm
by Tiesabre
La Habana wrote:Hows about a step beyond anal sex: Felching.

That's so outside my comfort level it needs a telescope to to find it again.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:16 pm
by Maurepas
Maerngau wrote:
Believe me, I'm disappointed too :( I'm glad this topic, uh, came up though so more people know about the risks.

Yeah, but I would say that is due to the increase in HPV not to the act itself...Oral sex is just one way it spreads, the act itself doesnt give you cancer, its the avenue of the virus...

just like sneezing doesnt give you a cold, its the virus that spreads from it...That doesnt mean you shouldnt sneeze, however, :p

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:17 pm
by Saint Clair Island
Maurepas wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:There's no such thing as human nature. There's just individual nature. One can predict how large groups of people behave, but extrapolating conclusions on how "humans in general" behave from those predictions is fallacious.

I would say there is a such thing as human nature, which I would define as things humans do...

But there is nothing "humans" do; there are things a human does, and there are even things a majority of humans do, but there's nothing all humans do. Except breathe, eat and drink, excrete, and sleep, and you can hardly argue that those things make up the human nature to which all those political, philosophical, and religious arguments appeal.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:18 pm
by Smunkeeville
La Habana wrote:Hows about a step beyond anal sex: Felching.

Or a step beyond even that: Snowballing.

meh.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:18 pm
by JarVik
Maerngau wrote:

Let's see. . .
http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/ ... ancer-rise

uly 29, 2009 - Changing sexual practices have led to a dramatic rise in throat cancer in the United States over the past two decades, and experts say they fear an epidemic of the disease.

The comments were made Wednesday at a news conference held by the American Association for Cancer Research to discuss research into the role of the sexually transmitted human papilloma virus ( HPV) in head and neck cancer.

Increasing rates of HPV infection, spread through oral sex, is largely driving the rapid rise in oropharyngeal cancers, which include tumors of the throat, tonsils, and base of the tongue, said Scott Lippman, MD, who chairs the thoracic department at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center.

Studies of oropharyngeal tumor tissue stored 20 years ago show that only around 20% are HPV positive, Lippman said. Today it is estimated that 60% of patients are infected with the virus.

“The percentage of oropharyngeal cancers that are HPV positive is much higher now than it was 20 years ago,” he said. “This is a real trend, and that is why there is concern of an epidemic given that fact that oropharyngeal cancer is increasing at an alarming rate.”
Changing Face of Throat Cancer

Smoking and alcohol abuse were once considered the only major risk factors for these cancers, but this is no longer the case.

American Cancer Society Chief Medical Officer Otis Brawley, MD, said as many as half of the oropharyngeal cancers diagnosed today appear to be caused by HPV infection.

“Changing sexual practices over the last 20 years, especially as they relate to oral sex, are increasing the rate of head and neck cancers and may be increasing the rates of other cancers as well,” he said.

He added that there is some evidence that oral HPV infection is also a risk factor for a type of cancer of the esophagus.

“The paradigm is changing,” Lippman said. “The types of patients we are seeing now with oropharyngeal cancers are not the patients we have classically seen who were older, smokers, and have lots of other problems. These are young people, executives, a whole different population.”
Oral Sex Not Safe Sex

The experts agreed that it is critical for the public to understand that oral sex doesn’t equal safe sex.

The message was unofficially promoted in the early days of the HIV epidemic and it is still widely believed by many, especially teens.

Studies suggest that teens are often unaware of the risks associated with unprotected oral sex, including the transmission of HPV, chlamydia, and gonorrhea.

“There is a huge public health message here,” Brawley said.


Believe me, I'm disappointed too :( I'm glad this topic, uh, came up though so more people know about the risks.



So, that vacine the've been working on for preventing cervical cancer would work here too? So I can have my Pie and eat it too..?

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:18 pm
by Heinleinites
Parthenon wrote:I have shit to do. I am not going to waste a few hours of my day just rolling around in bed or talking about her feelings when I could be preparing for a presentation at work, studying for class, drinking beer, or hitting on her other sorority sisters. I finish, give her ample time to, then sleep or leave. Its not easy being a publicly traded commodity with a high stock value.


Tucker Max and Maddox are your idols aren't they? Lord know, nobody is ever going to confuse me with The Sensitive Guy, but even I think this tips the asshole scale a little.

Maerngau wrote: I can think of a few medical reasons - oral performed on a woman can increase the performer's incidence of throat cancer. Which is a shame :(


I'm going to have to go ahead and call bullshit on that one.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:19 pm
by Ravea
New Central Europe wrote:Why would you do Anal Sex or Oral Sex :shock:


Why not?

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:20 pm
by Maerngau
Maurepas wrote:
Maerngau wrote:
Believe me, I'm disappointed too :( I'm glad this topic, uh, came up though so more people know about the risks.

Yeah, but I would say that is due to the increase in HPV not to the act itself...Oral sex is just one way it spreads, the act itself doesnt give you cancer, its the avenue of the virus...

just like sneezing doesnt give you a cold, its the virus that spreads from it...That doesnt mean you shouldnt sneeze, however, :p



Granted - no argument here. The gist remains the same though - going down on a lady is riskier than it used to be.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:21 pm
by Maerngau
Heinleinites wrote:
Parthenon wrote:I have shit to do. I am not going to waste a few hours of my day just rolling around in bed or talking about her feelings when I could be preparing for a presentation at work, studying for class, drinking beer, or hitting on her other sorority sisters. I finish, give her ample time to, then sleep or leave. Its not easy being a publicly traded commodity with a high stock value.


Tucker Max and Maddox are your idols aren't they? Lord know, nobody is ever going to confuse me with The Sensitive Guy, but even I think this tips the asshole scale a little.

Maerngau wrote: I can think of a few medical reasons - oral performed on a woman can increase the performer's incidence of throat cancer. Which is a shame :(


I'm going to have to go ahead and call bullshit on that one.


Did you read the source that was printed in full in this very thread?

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:21 pm
by Ifreann
Like all things, to piss off Christians who think its wrong.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:21 pm
by Fassitude
Smunkeeville wrote:meh.

Quite.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:22 pm
by Maurepas
Saint Clair Island wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:There's no such thing as human nature. There's just individual nature. One can predict how large groups of people behave, but extrapolating conclusions on how "humans in general" behave from those predictions is fallacious.

I would say there is a such thing as human nature, which I would define as things humans do...

But there is nothing "humans" do; there are things a human does, and there are even things a majority of humans do, but there's nothing all humans do. Except breathe, eat and drink, excrete, and sleep, and you can hardly argue that those things make up the human nature to which all those political, philosophical, and religious arguments appeal.

Yes, but the things a human does, can be plural...Sexuality and Nosexuality are things a human does...since there is more than one human doing both of these things, they are things humans do, i.e. Human Nature...

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:22 pm
by Maerngau
JarVik wrote:

So, that vacine the've been working on for preventing cervical cancer would work here too? So I can have my Pie and eat it too..?



I certainly hope so for your sake and mine.


And. . .
Can the doubters simply just google "oral sex throat cancer" and check for themselves? It takes 30 seconds.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:22 pm
by The Imperial Navy
On the "WTF" rating, I judge this thread to be OVER 9000!!

And people do this stuff 'cos they enjoy it. There's people out there who take pleasure from eating shit too you know.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:23 pm
by Tiesabre
Heinleinites wrote:Tucker Max and Maddox are your idols aren't they? Lord know, nobody is ever going to confuse me with The Sensitive Guy, but even I think this tips the asshole scale a little.

To each their own, not everybody worries about the other person getting off.

That's why whenever I do the deed, we orgasm together because my libido drops so quickly afterward I couldn't give a damn about the other person at that point.

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:23 pm
by Smunkeeville
Maerngau wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Maerngau wrote:
Believe me, I'm disappointed too :( I'm glad this topic, uh, came up though so more people know about the risks.

Yeah, but I would say that is due to the increase in HPV not to the act itself...Oral sex is just one way it spreads, the act itself doesnt give you cancer, its the avenue of the virus...

just like sneezing doesnt give you a cold, its the virus that spreads from it...That doesnt mean you shouldnt sneeze, however, :p



Granted - no argument here. The gist remains the same though - going down on a lady is riskier than it used to be.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story? ... 244&page=1

It can possibly be passed mouth to mouth as well, so like don't kiss any girls. (or boys for that matter.)

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:23 pm
by Maurepas
Maerngau wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Maerngau wrote:
Believe me, I'm disappointed too :( I'm glad this topic, uh, came up though so more people know about the risks.

Yeah, but I would say that is due to the increase in HPV not to the act itself...Oral sex is just one way it spreads, the act itself doesnt give you cancer, its the avenue of the virus...

just like sneezing doesnt give you a cold, its the virus that spreads from it...That doesnt mean you shouldnt sneeze, however, :p



Granted - no argument here. The gist remains the same though - going down on a lady is riskier than it used to be.

Meh, going outside is riskier than it used to be...my Drinking water is riskier than it used to be...

Personally, I dont think those things actually are any riskier, I think that now people simply know of the risks that were already there is all...

Re: Anal and Oral Sex

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:24 pm
by Intestinal fluids
Kusatsu wrote:I'm no expert on human nature, oftentimes I pretend no such thing exists because I lack some of the essential components of it (ie: sexual desire).


Im guessing one of a few problems here. Either your young and havnt reached sexual maturity yet, you have been sexually abused at some point, if your female, you might be one of those 33% that just dont have orgasms, or you might have been brought up in an insanely conservative home where sex is bad has been drilled into your head by uptight parents. Id recommend therapy to explore these possibilities.