Anal and Oral Sex

[Ifreann]

Because men don't have vaginas.

.....Or do they?

[Chandelier]

It means survival of your genetic code which, for all intents and purposes, is infinitely more important then you from an evolutionary standpoint.

If my genetic code is really that important, I could just donate some of my eggs...

[Maurepas]

It means survival of your genetic code which, for all intents and purposes, is infinitely more important then you from an evolutionary standpoint.

If my genetic code is really that important, I could just donate some of my eggs...

I think I there's a chance I should be disgusted with myself, as when I read that I immediately thought of Fried Eggs,

[Saint Clair Island]

I never said it was mathematical or scientific, although the scientific is debatable...Merely that concepts in general can have opposites in them...

Name a philosophical concept incorporating opposites, then, and explain its uses.

And it can be considered greedy because taking the life of another can be considered greedy by itself...

How?

And I know this because when you have children they will possess the capacity for greed, and no matter what you do, you cannot change that, and eventually there will be another that acts on this capacity, and you will have to kill them...

Could that not be because you yourself are greedy? Greed may well be genetic. Alternately, if society discourages it due to the majority of people being altruistic, people will be taught to utilize their natural capacity for altruism rather than their natural capacity for greed, reducing the latter capacity until it is no longer of consequence to them. Again, we're just hypothesizing here. There's no scientific data to suggest that people are naturally greedy.

[Redwulf]

One could argue that.

But since the two aren't the same the 'one real function of organic life' is survival, not reproduction.

One can survive without reproducing. One can't reproduce without surviving (long enough).

This might sound idiotic, but I hope it makes sense as much as it does in my head.

One cannot survive, neigh exist, without reproduction.

Shit! You mean I'm dead?????

[Grave_n_idle]

Name a philosophical concept incorporating opposites, then, and explain its uses.

Only on NSG would a discussion about anal and oral sex... spawn a line like this.

[Grave_n_idle]

One could argue that.

But since the two aren't the same the 'one real function of organic life' is survival, not reproduction.

One can survive without reproducing. One can't reproduce without surviving (long enough).

This might sound idiotic, but I hope it makes sense as much as it does in my head.

One cannot survive, neigh exist, without reproduction.

Shit! You mean I'm dead?????

It's a rather worrying implication - every 'first time' experience is automatically necrophilia, because you're dead if you're a virgin...

[Saint Clair Island]

Name a philosophical concept incorporating opposites, then, and explain its uses.

Only on NSG would a discussion about anal and oral sex... spawn a line like this.

I dunno. I hang out on several other internet forums as well. <.<

[Redwulf]

This might sound idiotic, but I hope it makes sense as much as it does in my head.

One cannot survive, neigh exist, without reproduction.

Shit! You mean I'm dead?????

It's a rather worrying implication - every 'first time' experience is automatically necrophilia, because you're dead if you're a virgin...

Not just if you're a virgin. The poster said reproduction not intercourse.

[Grave_n_idle]

Not just if you're a virgin. The poster said reproduction not intercourse.

True, but I assume most of us consider the intercourse thing to be (usually) required for the reproduction thing... so all virgins MUST be dead.

[Maurepas]

I never said it was mathematical or scientific, although the scientific is debatable...Merely that concepts in general can have opposites in them...

Name a philosophical concept incorporating opposites, then, and explain its uses.

And it can be considered greedy because taking the life of another can be considered greedy by itself...

How?

And I know this because when you have children they will possess the capacity for greed, and no matter what you do, you cannot change that, and eventually there will be another that acts on this capacity, and you will have to kill them...

Could that not be because you yourself are greedy? Greed may well be genetic. Alternately, if society discourages it due to the majority of people being altruistic, people will be taught to utilize their natural capacity for altruism rather than their natural capacity for greed, reducing the latter capacity until it is no longer of consequence to them. Again, we're just hypothesizing here. There's no scientific data to suggest that people are naturally greedy.

But there is saying that there is a capacity for greed, whether or not to act on it is a choice, and genetics plays a minor role in that ...

I am as greedy as the next person, everyone possesses the capacity...

And the desire to end a life can be considered selfish and therefore greedy on the part of the life taker...as this would be a matter of opinion it really cant be proven right or wrong, much like the capacity of greed itself, which would therefore be impossible to be rid of...

And as far as a concept that incorporates both, off the top of my head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism

Contemporary philosophical realism is the belief in a reality that is completely ontologically independent of our conceptual schemes, linguistic practices, beliefs, etc. Philosophers who profess realism also typically believe that truth consists in a belief's correspondence to reality.

Which would mean that what you accept as truths cannot actually be true, as they are based on a person's perceptions...
naturally these are opposite concepts...

[Ifreann]

Not just if you're a virgin. The poster said reproduction not intercourse.

True, but I assume most of us consider the intercourse thing to be (usually) required for the reproduction thing... so all virgins MUST be dead.

So until you knock someone up or get up the duff, you're a zombie. Interesting.....

[Grave_n_idle]

Not just if you're a virgin. The poster said reproduction not intercourse.

True, but I assume most of us consider the intercourse thing to be (usually) required for the reproduction thing... so all virgins MUST be dead.

So until you knock someone up or get up the duff, you're a zombie. Interesting.....

I'm just the messenger, don't shoot me.

I don't want to be a virgin again.

[United Dependencies]

Not just if you're a virgin. The poster said reproduction not intercourse.

True, but I assume most of us consider the intercourse thing to be (usually) required for the reproduction thing... so all virgins MUST be dead.

Well dang.

I consider myself asexual... (that is if you add an nti- after the a). But people can do what they want.

[United Dependencies]

True, but I assume most of us consider the intercourse thing to be (usually) required for the reproduction thing... so all virgins MUST be dead.

So until you knock someone up or get up the duff, you're a zombie. Interesting.....

I'm just the messenger, don't shoot me.

I don't want to be a virgin again.

[Saint Clair Island]

But there is saying that there is a capacity for greed, whether or not to act on it is a choice, and genetics plays a minor role in that ...

I am as greedy as the next person, everyone possesses the capacity...

How do you know everyone possesses the capacity?

And the desire to end a life can be considered selfish and therefore greedy on the part of the life taker...as this would be a matter of opinion it really cant be proven right or wrong, much like the capacity of greed itself, which would therefore be impossible to be rid of...

You still haven't really explained how the desire to end a life is selfish. So I'll explain it for you: it deprives someone else of their property (i.e. their body), in order to benefit you (whose property, presumably, remains intact). That's why one can justify killing a murderer unselfishly, but not an innocent man.

And as far as a concept that incorporates both, off the top of my head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism

Contemporary philosophical realism is the belief in a reality that is completely ontologically independent of our conceptual schemes, linguistic practices, beliefs, etc. Philosophers who profess realism also typically believe that truth consists in a belief's correspondence to reality.

Which would mean that what you accept as truths cannot actually be true, as they are based on a person's perceptions...
naturally these are opposite concepts...

Since philosophical realism itself is based on people's perceptions, isn't that a rather self-contradictory philosophy?

[Yootopia]

Why would you do Anal Sex or Oral Sex

The grins, largely.

[Shahinesian States]

[Ifreann]

Why would you do Anal Sex or Oral Sex

The grins, largely.

Shits and giggles, respectively?

:palm:

We thank you for your contribution.

[Yootopia]

Why would you do Anal Sex or Oral Sex

The grins, largely.

Shits and giggles, respectively?

Both of those ruin both of those

[La Habana]

Because men don't have vaginas.

.....Or do they?

Men have mangina's

[Maurepas]

But there is saying that there is a capacity for greed, whether or not to act on it is a choice, and genetics plays a minor role in that ...

I am as greedy as the next person, everyone possesses the capacity...

How do you know everyone possesses the capacity?

And the desire to end a life can be considered selfish and therefore greedy on the part of the life taker...as this would be a matter of opinion it really cant be proven right or wrong, much like the capacity of greed itself, which would therefore be impossible to be rid of...

You still haven't really explained how the desire to end a life is selfish. So I'll explain it for you: it deprives someone else of their property (i.e. their body), in order to benefit you (whose property, presumably, remains intact). That's why one can justify killing a murderer unselfishly, but not an innocent man.

And as far as a concept that incorporates both, off the top of my head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism

Contemporary philosophical realism is the belief in a reality that is completely ontologically independent of our conceptual schemes, linguistic practices, beliefs, etc. Philosophers who profess realism also typically believe that truth consists in a belief's correspondence to reality.

Which would mean that what you accept as truths cannot actually be true, as they are based on a person's perceptions...
naturally these are opposite concepts...

Since philosophical realism itself is based on people's perceptions, isn't that a rather self-contradictory philosophy?

I had believed the reasoning as to why it can be considered selfish was self explanatory, and being that you have simply provided the exact rationale, my belief would seemingly have been correct,
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/greed

A selfish or excessive desire for more than is needed or deserved, especially of money, wealth, food, or other possessions.

And since everyone is born with a capacity for emotions, everyone will have the capacity for this desire...

And, yes, I would consider it to be such, but, my point is, that that does not mean the concept is nonexistent, as you originally stated Human Nature to be...

[Saint Clair Island]

I had believed the reasoning as to why it can be considered selfish was self explanatory, and being that you have simply provided the exact rationale, my belief would seemingly have been correct,
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/greed

A selfish or excessive desire for more than is needed or deserved, especially of money, wealth, food, or other possessions.

And since everyone is born with a capacity for emotions, everyone will have the capacity for this desire...

Not everyone is born with the capacity for all emotions, and even those born with the capacity for all emotions may not feel desire in particular in excess. Still no proof, I see.

And, yes, I would consider it to be such, but, my point is, that that does not mean the concept is nonexistent, as you originally stated Human Nature to be...

I have yet to see you provide any proof for the existence of a definitive "human nature".

[Blouman Empire]

Hm, better off that way I guess.

It's sad that you'd think so.

Why if he doesn't want to do and isn't attracted to doing it then he is better off that way but not doing it.

[Maurepas]

I had believed the reasoning as to why it can be considered selfish was self explanatory, and being that you have simply provided the exact rationale, my belief would seemingly have been correct,
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/greed

A selfish or excessive desire for more than is needed or deserved, especially of money, wealth, food, or other possessions.

And since everyone is born with a capacity for emotions, everyone will have the capacity for this desire...

Not everyone is born with the capacity for all emotions, and even those born with the capacity for all emotions may not feel desire in particular in excess. Still no proof, I see.

And, yes, I would consider it to be such, but, my point is, that that does not mean the concept is nonexistent, as you originally stated Human Nature to be...

I have yet to see you provide any proof for the existence of a definitive "human nature".

Everyone that is not born with Mental defects will have the capacity for all emotions,

I never said there was a definitive version of it, I simply stated that it exists as a concept, and I provided you with my definition of it, the very fact that we are discussing it proves that the concept exists, as if it did not we couldnt discuss it...