Do I belong in the Republican Party?

[Whiskey Hill]

That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.

How are either fiscally conservative?

well neither is truly liberal on economics either.

[Nuew]

If you're a complete idiot: Yes.
If you have an IQ over 25: No.

[Auremena]

If you're a complete idiot: Yes.
If you have an IQ over 25: No.

Someone finally understands that it was a joke!
no srsly.

[Lackadaisical2]

He isn't comparing the Democrats in North Korea to the Democrats in America. He is comparing two american political parties. Neither are fiscally conservative.

But both are in reality. In direct comparison between the two, their fiscal motives are really not much different.

They both like to spend more than the government takes in- they're not fiscally conservative at all.

[Ceannairceach]

If you are confused about your politics, join the Tea Party. They are the Official Party for the Confused ^TM

They are also the most likely party to actually listen to you, by far!

(But strictly speaking they're not actually a party, they're a faction. A faction is a segment of a party attempting to force their ways on the rest of it.)

Oh lord no...

They are also the party most likely to trample over your and everyone elses rights.

[Icamera]

Libertarians are big backers of freedom in general--both in social and economic issues. You seem like you fit the bill for that for sure, but you're right in your belief that joining the party would be pointless. Since you are opposed to welfare and stuff like that, you'd probably wind up leaning Republican, so I think you should join them.

By the way, I admire you for making your own decisions instead of letting a political party tell you what to think! I do so as well, and hope everybody will use this voting strategy someday.

[Sibirsky]

I think the reason why third parties never win is because everyone who would vote for them doesn't because they won't win. If people just voted based on their convictions, third parties would have much better chances.

This is correct. It's also the reason why I wasted my vote in 2008 by voting for one of the big 2 parties.

[Sibirsky]

no you belong in the communist party

That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.

Neither is fiscally conservative. Both are fiscally insane.

[Sibirsky]

How are either fiscally conservative?

Look at any other nation in the world: Their fiscal liberals are WAY more fiscally liberal than the Democrats are claimed to be.

Are they spending $4 trillion per year? Do they have $14 trillion in debt?

[Lackadaisical2]

Look at any other nation in the world: Their fiscal liberals are WAY more fiscally liberal than the Democrats are claimed to be.

Are they spending $4 trillion per year? Do they have $14 trillion in debt?

IIRC, we're set to reach the highest debt/gdp out of everyone who's anyone except Japan.

[Hydesland]

I think the reason why third parties never win is because everyone who would vote for them doesn't because they won't win. If people just voted based on their convictions, third parties would have much better chances.

It's basic game theory. But another reason is that everyone who would wouldn't because it makes it easier for one of the two big parties they oppose to win, by taking votes away from their only real contender that has any chance of winning ever.

[Lacadaemon]

No. Making compromises with them only encourages them. And they are a bunch of turds at the organized national level.

Not that you should support the party of bankers either (democrats).

"A lone wolf is a dead wolf." -Old Folk Saying.

I'd rather be a wolf than a sheep. And old folks are stupid.

[Sibirsky]

Are they spending $4 trillion per year? Do they have $14 trillion in debt?

IIRC, we're set to reach the highest debt/gdp out of everyone who's anyone except Japan.

Could be. Depends on the definition of "who's anyone." But debt/GDP is far more important than just gross debt. And Japan is a far away leader in this category.

[Tsa-la-gi Nation]

I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?

If you have a bomb under that Santa's belly of yours, then please join either party for the good of the country!

[Sibirsky]

I think the reason why third parties never win is because everyone who would vote for them doesn't because they won't win. If people just voted based on their convictions, third parties would have much better chances.

It's basic game theory. But another reason is that everyone who would wouldn't because it makes it easier for one of the two big parties they oppose to win, by taking votes away from their only real contender that has any chance of winning ever.

Maybe it doesn't though. What if it keeps the election close enough, for the losing party to blame it on the opposing candidate's charisma, or "celebrity" or some other bullshit. IOW, anything but themselves. If some of those people voted 3rd party, and the margin was larger, maybe they'd wake up.

[Daistallia 2104]

Do I belong in the Republican Party?

That should be an easy question to answer. Have you paid dues? If not, then you probabaly aren't.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy.

So, you're a registered Republican voter, but not a party member as far as I can tell. Easy enough for you?

As for which party you ought to support or belong to...

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?

Stop voting for the GOP God, Guns, and Gays party. since you're disinclined to vote libertarian, I'd say simply don't vote.

no you belong in the communist party

Strike everything above. This is the best answer.

There are TONS of people of your philosophy in the Republican Party. It's really not that rare. Plus the Republicans are the more connected to the voters of the two parties at this point, so you'll have a much easier time wedging the GOP towards social liberalism then you will wedging the Democrats (who are much more elitist and unwilling to listen to those outside of their inner circle) towards economic conservatism and property rights.

Too bad the Christofacsists took control and will have it for the foreseeable future.

You've got to ask yourself, when all is said and done, "Have I contributed in trying to keep the worst of the two likely candidates from imposing something(s) I believe to be wrong for the country?"

You might be able to influence a 3rd party more easily, but can you get them elected? Like the uber-leftists & SDS have done with the Democratic Party, the Tea Party is making strides in changing the Republican Party.

SDS? Really? What do you think SDS is/was?

Indeed.

[Lackadaisical2]

IIRC, we're set to reach the highest debt/gdp out of everyone who's anyone except Japan.

Could be. Depends on the definition of "who's anyone." But debt/GDP is far more important than just gross debt. And Japan is a far away leader in this category.

Yeah, I don't even know how they managed to get that far into debt without everyone putting a stop to the lending. Ah well, Keynes would be proud.

[Sibirsky]

Could be. Depends on the definition of "who's anyone." But debt/GDP is far more important than just gross debt. And Japan is a far away leader in this category.

Yeah, I don't even know how they managed to get that far into debt without everyone putting a stop to the lending. Ah well, Keynes would be proud.

Haha, he is!

To be fair, I think Japan's Lost Decade has been greatly exaggerated.

[Coffee Cakes]

Too bad the Christofacsists took control and will have it for the foreseeable future.

Wow... the ignorance...
Seriously, what are you thinking with a comment like that?

[The Andromeda Islands]

I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?

If you want a party that SAYS they're economically conservative when they're out of power, the Republican Party is for you.

If you want a party that IS economically conservative... you won't find a home among either of the two parties.

Although I'm a registered Democrat, they aren't as committed to fiscal respobsibility as I would like.

[Robert Magoo]

You aren't going to find a party you fit perfectly. I'd say you fit with the republican party better than the democrat party though. Perhaps there are some fiscally sane democrats out there, but they have no power over the party. The republican party, on the other hand, has taken a much more libertarian direction lately than it has in the past. I mean, Ron Paul, a total libertarian, is considered a powerful force in the party. I can't think of a single freedom-minded democrat who has any sway at all right now. You'd have a tough time finding a democrat politician right now who'd even support a flat income tax, let alone any serious, substantial reform.

[Mike the Progressive]

no you belong in the communist party

That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.

Yeah...that's BS.....Democrats may have one time been fiscally more responsible, but there is this no turning back approach to them of spending more, more and more at present.

[Wamitoria]

That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.

Yeah...that's BS.....Democrats may have one time been fiscally more responsible, but there is this no turning back approach to them of spending more, more and more at present.

So, that's why Obama's budget calls for fiscal sanity for the first time since the Clinton administration.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget#TB_inline?scrollbars=no&height=647&width=1006&inlineId=budget-full

[Lackadaisical2]

Yeah...that's BS.....Democrats may have one time been fiscally more responsible, but there is this no turning back approach to them of spending more, more and more at present.

So, that's why Obama's budget calls for fiscal sanity for the first time since the Clinton administration.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget#TB_inline?scrollbars=no&height=647&width=1006&inlineId=budget-full

Your link is pretty useless, unless one now accepts propaganda as gospel.

[Mike the Progressive]

Yeah...that's BS.....Democrats may have one time been fiscally more responsible, but there is this no turning back approach to them of spending more, more and more at present.

So, that's why Obama's budget calls for fiscal sanity for the first time since the Clinton administration.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget#TB_inline?scrollbars=no&height=647&width=1006&inlineId=budget-full

Simple. 9...11. That's right, 9/11.