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Postby Sjovenia » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:00 pm

The Merry Christmas wrote:I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?

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Postby Auremena » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:03 pm

Sjovenia wrote:
The Merry Christmas wrote:I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?
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That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:04 pm

No. Making compromises with them only encourages them. And they are a bunch of turds at the organized national level.

Not that you should support the party of bankers either (democrats).
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Postby Los Cabreddes » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:08 pm

There are TONS of people of your philosophy in the Republican Party. It's really not that rare. Plus the Republicans are the more connected to the voters of the two parties at this point, so you'll have a much easier time wedging the GOP towards social liberalism then you will wedging the Democrats (who are much more elitist and unwilling to listen to those outside of their inner circle) towards economic conservatism and property rights.
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Postby Los Cabreddes » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:08 pm

Lacadaemon wrote:No. Making compromises with them only encourages them. And they are a bunch of turds at the organized national level.

Not that you should support the party of bankers either (democrats).


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Postby Los Cabreddes » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:09 pm

Auremena wrote:If you're a complete idiot: Yes.
If you have an IQ over 25: No.


Try to grow up.
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Postby Auremena » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:10 pm

Los Cabreddes wrote:
Auremena wrote:If you're a complete idiot: Yes.
If you have an IQ over 25: No.
Try to grow up.
It's actually rather true.
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Postby Los Cabreddes » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:10 pm

Jugs of Unicorns wrote:If you are confused about your politics, join the Tea Party. They are the Official Party for the Confused TM


They are also the most likely party to actually listen to you, by far!

(But strictly speaking they're not actually a party, they're a faction. A faction is a segment of a party attempting to force their ways on the rest of it.)
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Postby Los Cabreddes » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:11 pm

Auremena wrote:
Los Cabreddes wrote:Try to grow up.
It's actually rather true.


Considering whose telling me this, that don't mean much.
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Postby Auremena » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:13 pm

Los Cabreddes wrote:
Auremena wrote:It's actually rather true.
Considering whose telling me this, that don't mean much.
So you're one of those chauvinist bastards who think the opinions of women don't matter?
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Postby Meryuma » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:17 pm

I think the reason why third parties never win is because everyone who would vote for them doesn't because they won't win. If people just voted based on their convictions, third parties would have much better chances.
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Postby Fellrike » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:19 pm

Our political deck is stacked against third parties. I wish it wasn't, but that's the way it is.

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Postby Distruzio » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:40 pm

The Merry Christmas wrote:I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?


You may be a libertarian. I would council against joining any party. Voting just encourages the bastards to steal more money, spend more money, accrue more debt, and send more people off to be murdered.
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:42 pm

Auremena wrote:That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.


How are either fiscally conservative?
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Postby Auremena » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:43 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Auremena wrote:That is nothing like communism. Learn your -isms.
I'd say he's more of a Democrat. Pretty much both the GOP and Democrats are fiscally conservative, it's really the social aspects that put them apart.
How are either fiscally conservative?
Look at any other nation in the world: Their fiscal liberals are WAY more fiscally liberal than the Democrats are claimed to be.
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:45 pm

Auremena wrote:
Distruzio wrote:How are either fiscally conservative?
Look at any other nation in the world: Their fiscal liberals are WAY more fiscally liberal than the Democrats are claimed to be.


He isn't comparing the Democrats in North Korea to the Democrats in America. He is comparing two american political parties. Neither are fiscally conservative.

This is like saying that, compared to the IRA, Al-Qaeda isn't an active terrorist organization.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:45 pm

Distruzio wrote:
The Merry Christmas wrote:I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?


You may be a libertarian. I would council against joining any party. Voting just encourages the bastards to steal more money, spend more money, accrue more debt, and send more people off to be murdered.
But not voting is simply a vote of confidence to the leading party.
Instead, you ought to go in and draw dicks all over your ballet.
Once over a thousand ballots are covered in dick drawings someone will know something is up.
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Postby Auremena » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:47 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Auremena wrote:Look at any other nation in the world: Their fiscal liberals are WAY more fiscally liberal than the Democrats are claimed to be.
He isn't comparing the Democrats in North Korea to the Democrats in America. He is comparing two american political parties. Neither are fiscally conservative.
But both are in reality. In direct comparison between the two, their fiscal motives are really not much different.
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Postby Natapoc » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:47 pm

Kubra wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
You may be a libertarian. I would council against joining any party. Voting just encourages the bastards to steal more money, spend more money, accrue more debt, and send more people off to be murdered.
But not voting is simply a vote of confidence to the leading party.
Instead, you ought to go in and draw dicks all over your ballet.
Once over a thousand ballots are covered in dick drawings someone will know something is up.


Yes. They will make drawing dicks on ballots a felony.
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Postby Qatarab » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:47 pm

Im joining the communist party :lol:

Now seriously...I believe i'd prefer the democrats over the republicans. The republicans are just...absurd sometimes.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:50 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Kubra wrote: But not voting is simply a vote of confidence to the leading party.
Instead, you ought to go in and draw dicks all over your ballet.
Once over a thousand ballots are covered in dick drawings someone will know something is up.


Yes. They will make drawing dicks on ballots a felony.
Start disguising the dicks as things that aren't dicks
It's pretty easy to make a cat face out of a dick.
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Postby Galonica » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:52 pm

Try the Democratic Party (technically the real GOP- oldest active US political party. The Republican Party wasn't formed until the 1800s by members of the Whig Party.). There are some conservative Dems out there.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:55 pm

Angleter wrote:Either would do, but you'd be on the fringe of either party. Ron Paul (although he is somewhat conservative, but is big on states' rights) and Mike Gravel are libertarians from either party. Neither, of course, got any votes in the 2008 primaries- to the extent that Gravel walked out on the Democrats altogether.

I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:57 pm

Vecherd wrote:The Democrats and the GOP are the cancer, The Libertarians is the answer.(In your situation)

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:01 pm

The Merry Christmas wrote:
Sepuria wrote:Can Independents vote in primaries in Nebraska?


No. And voting in primaries is important to me.

In Virginia you can pick which party to vote for in the primaries and you don't have to be registered. They just ask you if you want a Republican or Democrat ballot.
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