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Postby Jugs of Unicorns » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:12 pm

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Postby Centropyge » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:12 pm

Honestly, it seems like folks like you are becoming more and more numerous these days. While I am a conservative through and through (though I prefer to think of myself as a "compassionate conservative" and Huckabee is my favorite Presidential candidate of recent times), I keep running into people who favor limited government but are less socially conservative than the GOP core and some of them are also more pacifist (except for when it comes to dealing with Al-Qaeda).

I'm not sure exactly what a modern Bull Moose party would look like, as I figure Roosevelt is more hawkish than a lot of libertarians. Maybe we need multiple centrist parties. But, as much as I might wish for a multiple-party system, I have to say it'll come down to if you really want to get registered and vote in the primaries, then you have to pick a party. I'm thinking, given that the conservative base is trying to steer the GOP to the right, that you'd be better off registering Democrat. Then again, I'm a little biased (I support the Tea Party movement) so what can I say. However, as a registered Democrat, you could of course still vote for Republicans, Dems, or Libertarians depending on the individual candidates. There are fiscally conservative Democrats. Heck, there are plenty of Democratic lawmakers and governors who favor libertarian or even GOP-style things like less gun control and more states' rights and less federal government/spending.

If you don't care about voting in the primaries, call yourself a Libertarian and just vote for the candidates you think are best, IMHO
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Postby Bellganamos » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:14 pm

You're definitely a a "liberal" Republican, which means you're tolerant on social issues but fiscally conservative. That makes you a Goldwater Republican, if I remember correctly.

As far as economics, I'm to the left of the political scale, but for foreign affairs I tend to be more to the right (meaning I am more of a hardliner; I feel the military can and should conduct action that breaches international law, etc). That being said, I didn't support Iraq at all.

Social issues, I am a lefty for all of them excluding capital punishment.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:16 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Don't get me wrong, I liked Teddy Roosevelt as president, but that was partially because he was restrained by the conservative base of his party.

Yeah, no. Say what you like about his 1912 Campaign, his presidency was anything but restrained by the Conservative base of his party.


Eh, it was to an extent. At least his first term. Though I do agree that towards the end, his addresses to congress were getting more and more blunt, and by many considered radical (though in honesty, weren't really).

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:16 pm

Mussoliniopoli wrote:This reminds me. I should demand NSG pick me out some ideologies to look at because I can't be arsed. :lol:

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Postby Yuktova » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:17 pm

Become a Zeitgeist! Embrace science and not Republicans or any political party! When you are in the Zeitgeist Movemwnt, you protect the environment, help the poor, create new technology to help all of Humanity not just for profit, universal education, universal medical options! Think of the possiblilities!

Here is a documentry about the Zeitgeist Movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYH57Cw644k
And here is another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7-Qbbr ... er&list=UL
Now here is two songs for the scientificly minded or for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeV ... er&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFgVayr ... er&list=UL

Enjoy both!
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:18 pm

Yuktova wrote:Become a Zeitgeist! Embrace science and not Republicans or any political party! When you are in the Zeitgeist Movemwnt, you protect the environment, help the poor, create new technology to help all of Humanity not just for profit, universal education, universal medical options! Think of the possiblilities!

Here is a documentry about the Zeitgeist Movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYH57Cw644k
And here is another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7-Qbbr ... er&list=UL
Now here is two songs for the scientificly minded or for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeV ... er&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFgVayr ... er&list=UL

Enjoy both!


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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:19 pm

Yuktova wrote:Become a Zeitgeist! Embrace science and not Republicans or any political party! When you are in the Zeitgeist Movemwnt, you protect the environment, help the poor, create new technology to help all of Humanity not just for profit, universal education, universal medical options! Think of the possiblilities!

Here is a documentry about the Zeitgeist Movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYH57Cw644k
And here is another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7-Qbbr ... er&list=UL
Now here is two songs for the scientificly minded or for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeV ... er&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFgVayr ... er&list=UL

Enjoy both!

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Postby Rusikstan » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:21 pm

United Dependencies wrote:Go modern whig.


I was going to suggest modern whig and then I see this, who would have thought it would be mentioned already.
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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby Siorafrica » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:25 pm

There's a perfectly good reason why the old Whig party isn't still around...
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:26 pm

Siorafrica wrote:There's a perfectly good reason why the old Whig party isn't still around...

The issue of slavery?
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Postby Blahem » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:29 pm

Why can't you be a swing vote?
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:29 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Siorafrica wrote:There's a perfectly good reason why the old Whig party isn't still around...

The issue of slavery?

I should wear a powdered wig and show up to a Whig Party meeting.
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Postby Sepuria » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:31 pm

Can Independents vote in primaries in Nebraska?

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Postby Rusikstan » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:33 pm

Siorafrica wrote:There's a perfectly good reason why the old Whig party isn't still around...


So in otherwords you have no idea what I am talking about...
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.

lolz ensued

Cyrupe wrote:Canadians are not good at electronics, hence why you never see them at the top of ANYTHING in the technology industry. Bowling ball track pads are the perfect example of this.

Wamitoria wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby Yuktova » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:36 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Yuktova wrote:Become a Zeitgeist! Embrace science and not Republicans or any political party! When you are in the Zeitgeist Movemwnt, you protect the environment, help the poor, create new technology to help all of Humanity not just for profit, universal education, universal medical options! Think of the possiblilities!

Here is a documentry about the Zeitgeist Movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYH57Cw644k
And here is another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7-Qbbr ... er&list=UL
Now here is two songs for the scientificly minded or for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeV ... er&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFgVayr ... er&list=UL

Enjoy both!


Yeah, let's not and say we didn't.


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Postby The Merry Christmas » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:53 pm

Sepuria wrote:Can Independents vote in primaries in Nebraska?


No. And voting in primaries is important to me.
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Postby Yuktova » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:08 pm

The Merry Christmas wrote:
Sepuria wrote:Can Independents vote in primaries in Nebraska?


No.


Then vote for Peter Joseph! The founder of the scientific Zeitgeist Movement! We believe in helping the poor, taking care of the environment, local agriccultural projects rather than making a corn crop go 600 miles away, scientific advancement of the Human race, ending racisim, free basic human needs such as water food and shelter, and much more!
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:13 pm

Yuktova wrote:
The Merry Christmas wrote:
No.


Then vote for Peter Joseph! The founder of the scientific Zeitgeist Movement! We believe in helping the poor, taking care of the environment, local agriccultural projects rather than making a corn crop go 600 miles away, scientific advancement of the Human race, ending racisim, free basic human needs such as water food and shelter, and much more!

Sounds retarded.
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Postby Yuktova » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:18 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Yuktova wrote:
Then vote for Peter Joseph! The founder of the scientific Zeitgeist Movement! We believe in helping the poor, taking care of the environment, local agriccultural projects rather than making a corn crop go 600 miles away, scientific advancement of the Human race, ending racisim, free basic human needs such as water food and shelter, and much more!

Sounds retarded.


In what way? Please explain.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:24 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Sounds retarded.

In what way? Please explain.

Nothing wrong with shipping corn, or having poor people. I don't believe in social engineering on that level from the government, and fuck the human race, lets keep all the scientific discoveries to ourselves. :P
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:11 pm

The Merry Christmas wrote:I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?


A two party system normally requires compromise.
Yours is a typical case it comes down to which you value more the economic rights or civil rights?
I switch back and forth depending on who is threatening what rights.
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Postby Ashmoria » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:39 pm

The Merry Christmas wrote:I'm having a little trouble deciding which political party would be right for me at this point. It's not my wish to consider myself an independent, for I know I have the capacity to vote based on policy, not party, and still have a substantial amount of political say.

I've registered as a Republican due to my economic philosophy. However, I don't agree with many socially conservative ideals. I believe in marraige, but not that it should be reserved couples of opposite sexes. Things like harsh drug laws and illegal gambling really get me going... I've given some thought to joining the Libertarian Party, but I'm fairly certain I don't want to align with a third party. Not to mention a cult.

The following is a slightly more thorough discription of my political philosophy. Hopefully you can gauge me based upon it. Tell me if I'm right or wrong to be registered as I am:

I'm fiscally very conservative. Socially libertarian. I believe strongly in religious freedom, the seperation of church and state, a small and limited government, personal responsibility, property rights, low taxes, and minimal government spending in areas other than national defense and the prevention of theft and fraud. I disagree with all kinds of social policies because I believe they're both wasteful (or at least highly inefficient) and a violation of individual rights.

I'm basically an angry Nebraskan. Does it show?


yes you belong in the republican party.
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Postby Fellrike » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:56 pm

When the Tea Party was formed, and was supposed to be a party for fiscal conservatives, I was so happy, I felt I'd found a home at last. The social conservatives have pretty much taken over the Republican Party, and I was so glad that we finally had a group of our own, but surprise, the damned social conservatives have infiltrated the Tea Party too. Look at all the potential GOP presidential nominees: how many of them are screwball social conservatives? Pretty much all of them, except for Donald Trump and Ron Paul. And Paul's foreign policy ideas are closer to those held by most Democrats, than to mainstream Republicans.
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Postby Auremena » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:58 pm

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