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Postby Imsogone » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:23 pm

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Aw, come on, let me have my little joke. This thread need some sort of humor, however strained it may be.

Look, I'm a Librul(tm). I'm contractually obligated to promote buttsecks. They'll take away my membership card if I don't.


Ah. I see. I'm not a Librul(tm), but I respect your loyalty to your contractual obligations. As an immoderate, you see, I'm obligated to laugh at everyone and make bad jokes about serious topics.
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Postby Mosasauria » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:24 pm

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Aw, come on, let me have my little joke. This thread need some sort of humor, however strained it may be.

Look, I'm a Librul(tm). I'm contractually obligated to promote buttsecks. They'll take away my membership card if I don't.

And I have absolutely no clue what the hell I am!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:26 pm

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Bottle wrote:Look, I'm a Librul(tm). I'm contractually obligated to promote buttsecks. They'll take away my membership card if I don't.

And I have absolutely no clue what the hell I am!


Ah! Confusion! You are ripe for conversion! :evil:
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Postby Mosasauria » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:26 pm

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Mosasauria wrote:And I have absolutely no clue what the hell I am!


Ah! Confusion! You are ripe for conversion! :evil:

I'm really, really not in the mood for anything of that sort...
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:27 pm

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Bullshit. You're a fucking bigoted homophobe and you know it.

I oughta kill you.

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Postby Wanjestay » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:20 am

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Underium wrote:I guess, I can see that if your referring that discussing sexuality should normally be kept out of the classroom, but this just bans it all, but does nothing to heterosexuality, is our public education system that blind? That they think if they don't teach students then there wont be any homosexuality?

The way I see it, they should either teach that homosexuality is wrong or not discuss it at all.

In what way is homosexuality wrong?

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:22 am

Wanjestay wrote:
Terrasricas wrote:The way I see it, they should either teach that homosexuality is wrong or not discuss it at all.

In what way is homosexuality wrong?

God says so, gays can't have babies (reproduction is what people were created for, you know) and anyway, it's icky. Except lesbians, who are hawt and really just need to meet the right man, a real man. Don't you know anything? :p
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:32 am

Wanjestay wrote:
Terrasricas wrote:The way I see it, they should either teach that homosexuality is wrong or not discuss it at all.

In what way is homosexuality wrong?


In the same way consuming pork or having lustful thoughts is wrong.

Not at all.
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Postby The Scandinvans » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:04 am

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The Scandinvans wrote:No it is not. If your indeed correct please cite the specific section of the US constitution allowing children (those under 18) that protects ensures them access to an all-inclusive education.

First Amendment to the United States Constitution wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; ...

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution wrote:Section 1 ...No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


I believe that covers it twice over.
No religion has been officially been established, nor has group been denied its rights. The case merely is that sexual orientation, namely homosexual, is not being discussed in grade and middle schools. The elected officials of the state have chosen not to offer offering all the standpoints on an issue, they are not offering an in-depth sexual education either, and no one, including homosexuals, are being denied their rights in this case and instead lies mostly with the preferred education of their constituents. As well, since no group is systemically being vilified the state will most likely be able to carry on its merry way due to the fact that not compelling federal interest can be stated and since states control their

The argument you pose is rooted in the fallacy that a group not being reported in public schools at least before high school is somehow denying people (homosexuals) their rights. It is simply not as they are not being repressed nor are the students being taught they are evil.
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Postby Freelanderness » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:08 am

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Postby Soviet Grazeland » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:31 am

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Postby SaintB » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:37 am

This sounds like a dangerous policy where the Legislature is basically saying, "Lets combat reality by pretending it doesn't exist; if we don't inform our children about things they'll deal with in real life we can't be held accountable for their mistakes."
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Postby Bitchkitten » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:44 am

The Scandinvans wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:


I believe that covers it twice over.
No religion has been officially been established, nor has group been denied its rights. The case merely is that sexual orientation, namely homosexual, is not being discussed in grade and middle schools. The elected officials of the state have chosen not to offer offering all the standpoints on an issue, they are not offering an in-depth sexual education either, and no one, including homosexuals, are being denied their rights in this case and instead lies mostly with the preferred education of their constituents. As well, since no group is systemically being vilified the state will most likely be able to carry on its merry way due to the fact that not compelling federal interest can be stated and since states control their

The argument you pose is rooted in the fallacy that a group not being reported in public schools at least before high school is somehow denying people (homosexuals) their rights. It is simply not as they are not being repressed nor are the students being taught they are evil.

Almost all objections to homosexuality have a religious basis, even those boiling down to the "ick" factor. About half the gay guys I've known knew their orientation by time they started high school. How is is supposed to be beneficial to anyone to pretend that gays don't exist? You don't think most eighth graders have heard of gays? Or that if we don't tell them about it, they won't "turn" gay? Just like the abstinence only sex-ed classes seem to assume that if you don't tell kids about safe sex that they just won't have sex.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:48 am

Terrasricas wrote:
Underium wrote:List the reasons its wrong please.

As I said in my post, its sick. Humans weren't meant to have intimate feelings for the same gender.

We also weren't meant to fly or travel to outer space.
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Postby Bitchkitten » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:52 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Terrasricas wrote:As I said in my post, its sick. Humans weren't meant to have intimate feelings for the same gender.

We also weren't meant to fly or travel to outer space.

If we weren't meant to have these feelings, where do they come from? Who says we weren't? If it's a diety, why did said diety give them to people? Silly crap.

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Postby SaintB » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:09 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Terrasricas wrote:As I said in my post, its sick. Humans weren't meant to have intimate feelings for the same gender.

We also weren't meant to fly or travel to outer space.

I love when people just make assumptions about people's nature without thought or consideration. If we weren't meant to do something that comes naturally to us than we the fuck do we do it? If we weren't meant to reach the clouds we would have never evolved the brain and the ability, and the tools, and the imagination, and the machines that allow us to do so; if we weren't meant to fuck each other in the ass we wouldn't enjoy it so damn much!
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:10 am

Bitchkitten wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:We also weren't meant to fly or travel to outer space.

If we weren't meant to have these feelings, where do they come from? Who says we weren't? If it's a diety, why did said diety give them to people? Silly crap.


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Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:If we weren't meant to have these feelings, where do they come from? Who says we weren't? If it's a diety, why did said diety give them to people? Silly crap.


God is secretly a misanthrope. He's like a kid with a magnifying glass over the anthill of earth.

God has become the single biggest obstacle to human progress in existence and I of the mind that if they exist they are quite unhappy about that fact.
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Postby Solar Castile » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:19 am

Ugh. Fucking Farm-Hick inbred dumb-asses. :/

If there's one thing I'm not tolerant of, it's the intolerant.

Strangulation of Freedom of Speech, they can discuss what the hell they want to discuss, Federal Law > State Law.
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Postby Bitchkitten » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:21 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:If we weren't meant to have these feelings, where do they come from? Who says we weren't? If it's a diety, why did said diety give them to people? Silly crap.


God is secretly a misanthrope. He's like a kid with a magnifying glass over the anthill of earth.

As George Carlin said, the Biblical god is either an incompetent or an asshole.

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:22 am

Bitchkitten wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
God is secretly a misanthrope. He's like a kid with a magnifying glass over the anthill of earth.

As George Carlin said, the Biblical god is either an incompetent or an asshole.


I think we need to elevate George Carlin(pbuh)'s status, far too few recognize him as the prophet he is.

There is no god and Carlin is the prophet.
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Postby Horsefish » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:26 am

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Aw, come on, let me have my little joke. This thread need some sort of humor, however strained it may be.

Look, I'm a Librul(tm). I'm contractually obligated to promote buttsecks. They'll take away my membership card if I don't.


Thats me persuaded.
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Postby Mercia-Northumbria » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:27 am

I thought that the US constitution actually stood for something. This makes me really, really, really glad I don't live in Tennessee (or America at all).

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Postby Mercia-Northumbria » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:30 am

Terrasricas wrote:As I said in my post, its sick. Humans weren't meant to have intimate feelings for the same gender.


Explain yourself.

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Postby Marcheria » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:32 am

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Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
God is secretly a misanthrope. He's like a kid with a magnifying glass over the anthill of earth.

God has become the single biggest obstacle to human progress in existence and I of the mind that if they exist they are quite unhappy about that fact.

Yes and no. God himself isn't the obstacle, it's the people who take his/her word too seriously.
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